Posted on 11/23/2008 6:30:41 PM PST by Red Steel
Now it's pretty apparent why Barack Obama made his sudden, last minute visit to Honolulu. It wasn't Granny's health problems that interested him but Hawaii's Health Department.
The strategy may have backfired. A statement by Hawaiian officials Friday that they have seen but won't release an "original" birth certificate that has never been released raises more questions than it answers. It undercuts the indignant claims of Obama spokesmen and supporters that the "birth certificate" has been published for months, and the ridicule and claims of "smear" that the Obama camp has made against anyone claiming otherwise.
Image: the "certification of live birth" claimed by Obama campaign as his "birth certificate"
According to an AP report, Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday that she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
But they won't say one word about what's on it.
Conspicuously, Hawaiian officials refuse to confirm that the information on the "original" certificate conforms to what has appeared on the "Certification of Live Birth" produced in 2007 that has so far been passed off as original by the Obama "Fight the Smears" site (here) and the Annenberg-backed site FactCheck.org (here). The latter dedicated a photoshoot to examining in pornographic detail a computer-generated facsimile that may bear no relation to the original document that the State of Hawaii now admits holding.
Can anyone smell "red herring"?
All of the obfuscation, which has been going on for more than four months, begs the question that the Obama campaign and its media supporters have steadfastly refused to answer: why won't the original birth certificate be released?
Why can't the Obama campaign do as the McCain campaign did, and release the original, typewritten document that the State of Hawaii, finally and in the last days before the election, admits exists in its "vaults"? What could be so damaging or contradictory that Obama has felt the need to keep hidden all these years and has created elaborate cover-ups to put forward computer-abstracted certification of live certificate instead of the original birth certificate?
Fukino says that no state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's birth certificate be handled differently. But state officials, including Lingle's office, have consistently refused media requests for the release of the document, saying that only Obama himself, or a close family number, was authorized to have access to the "original" certificate. She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
Apparently that does not include the American People.
And yet Obama claimed in his memoir Dreams from my Father that he had in his possession his birth certificate. Unless the document has been "lost," he could publish the original without visiting grandma in Honolulu.
Trumpeting victory in Hawaii's admission that a suppressed "original" birth certificate exists is Chicago-based journalist Andy Martin, a long time nemesis of Obama, whose trip to Hawaii preceded the candidate's. (Obama arrived just as Martin left). Martin takes credit for forcing the State's hand in a press release:
Obama has falsely claimed to have placed the "original" on the Internet. Factcheck.org has falsely claimed to have seen this document and posted it on the Internet; that is not true. CNN has falsely ridiculed Martin. Hawai'i officials have now refuted Obama's false assertion.
Martin's victory in Honolulu will roil the final weekend of the presidential campaign. Internet chatter is expected to explode as the issue moves to the front page over Saturday and Sunday. Swing voters may be swayed by the exposure that Obama has brazenly been lying to the American people. "We just lobbed a grenade into the final weekend of the presidential campaign," says Andy.
"I am ecstatic. I called Obama a liar. I called Factcheck.org 'ObamaLies.org.' I said CNN was sloppy and lazy and wrong. And I was right. The State of Hawai'i has now backed me up. Whew. I knew I was right, but I feel a lot more comfortable knowing that I have started to get the machinery moving in state government. The original document is now obviously protected and safe from any tampering by Obama.
"My lawsuit started a firestorm in Hawai'i. The circuit judge has set a hearing for November 18th (a report in the Honolulu Advertiser for November 1st for an earlier hearing date of November 7th is inaccurate; that date was cancelled).
"CNN also has egg on its face, because, once again, Hawai'i backs my contention that the original document has never surfaced in public. CNN tried to demean me by contradicting my accurate claim.
"Now Obama, Factcheck.org and CNN have been exposed as liars. I said there was a 'secret,' original, typewritten birth certificate that had never been disclosed, and that document was the original COLB, not the phony 'original' that CNN placed before its viewers.
Martin, who has advanced the theory that the candidate has suppressed the original certificate because it would show that his father is not in fact Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., claims that Frank Marshall Davis -- a high profile Communist and journalist that Obama II referred to in his memoirs only as "Frank" -- is in fact Obama's father.
Martin has a court date in Hawaii on his demand to release the original birth certificate in the public interest scheduled for November 18, 2008. He has scheduled a press conference for today
McCain? So there is a downside to this.
Actually I can well imagine that her mindset at the time was so romantically driven by the “exoticness” of Obama Sr...
That when asked if she would like to visit Kenya, she jumped at the chance...
(Or was she concerned the Obama Sr might not come back and she was making sure that she was sticking close to him ????)
She was not a mature woman who would have had the patience to wait till after the baby was born and then go...
Apparantly she travelled TO Kenya extremely late in her pregnancy...
and what if the idea was to have Obama Jr born in Kenya ????
George Romney did not withdraw from the race for that reason.
He dropped out after his remark that he was “brainwashed” after a trip to Vietnam. His campaign never gained traction after that. Also, if a child is born to parents who are both
US citizens and say traveling, working, or studying abroad, then that child is considered a natural born citizen.
In fact, that particular family line is one of the older ones in North America. One gentleman in the line had actually built a shack of sorts along the James River about 10 years before John Smith and company arrived on the scene, and if you dig far enough, several arrived with Columbus' second voyage.
Obama's daughters appear to be eligible for membership in Colonial Dames. If there's some sort of organization for those whose European ancestors arrived in the 16th century, they'd be eligible for that one too. Poor Michelle, her little girls can already out-snob their mommy!
Sometime in 1969 I flew on an "stratocruiser" to Iceland, and then to Luxembourg. It was the most excruciating and nasty flight I'd ever taken. Noisy, crowded, bad air...... you name it.
The same sort of planes, and worse, would have been used on a multi-legged flight from Hawaii to Nairobi in 1961.
Air travel then was far different than air travel now.
There are no parents of the parent conditions in the 1952 law. The grandparent provisions that came in in 1994 and would no have applied retroactively. Obama's Mama simply did not meet the residency requirements (5 after 14) for 0 to be a citizen at birth if born outside the US. If 0's father had been a naturalized citizen (he was a Kenyan (British subject, Kenya became independent in 1963) in HI on a student visa) the residency of Stanley Ann Dunham wouldn't matter.
No, you don’t.
The rationale behind the law was very obvious at the time. The girls had to leave the babies in Italy, Ireland or Greece.
Then Obama is qualified...
I once used my draft card as an ID to cross into Canada and to cross back into the United States.
He formally resigned from the Senate already.
I would sue the DNC for fraud and move to have the election invalidated.
Apparently many judges believe that the citizens of the United States of America have no vested interest in the POTUS.
Lovely--- Aaaanold is 500% WORSE than McCain... Pro-homosexual, pro-abort, and now showing his liberal fiscal side as well. With "Republicans" like him, who needs Democrats?
No, no, no....he resigned from the Senate effective today, not saying Blaggo can’t appoint him to serve his own vacated seat.
I’m sorry my mistake. The Naturalization Act of 1795 doesn’t say the President must be a natural born citizen-that requirement is in the Constitution, and it has not changed from day one.
Obama is not a natural born citizen, because his father was not a US citizen. His father was a British subject and because of that Obama was born a subject of the Crown and later became a citizen of Kenya. Even if he was born in Hawaii, and his mother was old enough to pass US citizenship on to him, he would still only be a citizen-not a natural born citizen.
Natural born status must exist at the moment of birth. It can not be earned, or received at a later date, or by a retroactive law. The Constitution does not define what a natural born citizen is. However, if we look at the United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790, it states “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”. So we can learn from this that you have to be the child of US citizens, to be a natural born citizen.
Now that law was repealed and replaced by the The Naturalization Act of 1795 which now stated that “the children of citizens of the United States born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States. “This act, signed into law by George Washington himself, dropped the “natural born” phrase. So from this we can see the only way you can be a natural born citizen, is to be born to US citizens on US soil.
Also in the 1795 law you can see that to become a naturalized citizen, you had to “support the Constitution of the United States; and that he does absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty whereof he was before a citizen or subject. Also if you ‘borne any hereditary title, or been of any of the orders of nobility in the kingdom or state from which he came, on his, moreover, making in the court an express renunciation of his title or order of nobility”. So you can see that the founders did not allow dual citizenship, for even a naturalized citizen. Children that were born to fathers that never resided in the United States were barred from citizenship at birth. “right of citizenship shall not descend on persons whose fathers have never been resident of the United States.
Knowing this, we are now being told that Obama is qualified? Yes, he may be a citizen, though I doubt it but he was never a natural born citizen, and can not be President, if we honor the Constitution.
there were a few scenarios but that was one of them. check out obamacrimes.com
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