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Obama will try to steamroll opposition to his agenda by calling it a stimulus package that needs to be enacted now to prevent a Depression. It's not difficult to create 2.5 million jobs with wages paid by the taxpayer, but unless they are doing useful work, the money will be wasted.

Higher spending today will mean even higher taxes tomorrow. Republicans could make this valid argument more convincingly if they had shown more spending restraint while in power.

1 posted on 11/23/2008 4:11:58 AM PST by reaganaut1
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At least he's saying something now.

Obama will try to steamroll opposition...

What opposition???

2 posted on 11/23/2008 4:15:13 AM PST by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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“Obama will try to steamroll opposition to his agenda by calling it a stimulus package that needs to be enacted now to prevent a Depression”

If the general public understood economics, they’d laugh this into shame. But we all like free money, don’t we?

By the way, how “swift” could Obama be with this package? He’s not even in office yet. I suppose he’s technically had the bully pulpit for about a year now, but so does Oprah, for pete’s sake, and nobody has to listen to her. Does he still have his Senate seat, ‘cause if he did he could introduce some legislation.


3 posted on 11/23/2008 4:17:55 AM PST by Tublecane
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“Mr. Obama’s proposals to invest in energy alternatives and advanced ‘green’ technologies will most likely be part of the package”

Oh, great, that’ll save us. How about we invest in a gold machione next, so we’ll corner the market on gold and become the world’s financial powerhouse again?

Of course, in that case James Bond would be snooping around too much, either trying to kill us or trying to steal the plans so that the crown can design its own sterling machine.


4 posted on 11/23/2008 4:20:52 AM PST by Tublecane
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So, are we doomed yet?


5 posted on 11/23/2008 4:26:07 AM PST by gitmo (I am the latte-sipping, NYT-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, PC, arrogant liberal. -BO)
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...two-year stimulus plan with the goal of saving or creating 2.5 million jobs.

OK, we went from the campaign goal of creating 5 million jobs, to creating 2.5 million jobs, to saving or creating 2.5 million jobs. I sense goal erosion.

8 posted on 11/23/2008 4:26:54 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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It's not difficult to create 2.5 million jobs with wages paid by the taxpayer, but unless they are doing useful work, the money will be wasted.

Government can't create wealth, it can only spread it. That's the way this foolhardy plan should be attacked.

Government make work jobs are only spreading the wealth. Republicans should push large tax cuts, so that wealth can be CREATED, not spread.

Taking your and my hard earned money and spreading it to someone else won't grow us out of this bad economy.

10 posted on 11/23/2008 4:27:15 AM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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Obama will copy the policies of FDR, who waged war against capitalism, “created” government jobs, and not only kept taxes high, but added new taxes. FDR was a total failure, since his policies kept the depression alive for a decade. The only reason the depression ended was the need to rev up industrial production to fight WW II.

Obama will attack the Constitution with more socialist programs than we already have.

BTW, has anyone noticed that Obama looks a lot like Alfred E. Neuman of MAD Magazine fame?


11 posted on 11/23/2008 4:28:50 AM PST by pleikumud
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Real jobs don’t go away when the federal dollars dry up. Obamajobs depend exclusively on Uncle Sugar and are nothing more than welfare.


12 posted on 11/23/2008 4:29:39 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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“...but unless they are doing useful work, the money will be wasted.”

I’m guessing that a lot more of this than people realized will be GOVERNMENT jobs. Expect waste.


13 posted on 11/23/2008 4:49:25 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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The trick is not to spend directly but to provide the regulatory framework and leverage for investment incentives to get the private sector to take on the spending. For example, I dont’t think this will happen, but, if fast track authority was given to allow power companies to build a dozen or so nuclear reactors it would have monster economic impact in many states over a very long period of time. Other big, privately financed projects like building oil and gas pipelines are already beyond the drawing board stage and seeking authority for a go. And, if we are serious about rebuilding the electrical grid the job creation and investment opportunities will be very substantial.

Everyone of these type projects will require large supply of base metals (iron ore, nickel, molybdenum) for steel production. Watch over the next few weeks. If shares in the natural resource producers (BHP, RIO, TC) and steel companies (X, NUE, MT) get a good boost it means that business believes it is going happen and they are prepared to follow Obama’s lead. I would also watch the stock of GE as it sits right in the middle of all of the energy strategies including wind and solar.

If business and investment signs on to an Obama initiative at this time, it would be suicidal for Republicans to oppose it. We will understand the true political dynamic in the next few days when we hear the position of the Georgia senate candidates. My guess is they will fight each other to appear the most supportive of Obama’s stimulus strategy. This is interesting, because the Republican strategy in Georgia so far has been to argue the need to provide a check on complete Democratic control. So, if Republicans in Georgia say they want to help Obama get a financial stimulus passed you know it is going to be a very big package of spending and Republicans will be signing on.


17 posted on 11/23/2008 5:07:34 AM PST by spatso
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Ah, I remember the outhouse the WPA built my grandparents. And the sidewalks built by the same WPA around most of the blocks in the little town where they lived.

And the CCC, traipsing around in the Wichita Mountain Wildlife Refuge, doing conservation work.

Good old days again? Hardly. That was in the depth of the depression.

And people from my native state hung their heads if they admitted they were “On Relief”. Proud people, reduced to taking money from the government because there were no other jobs to be had.

Oh, did I mention that the WPA’ers and the CCC’ers worked for the money they got?


18 posted on 11/23/2008 5:34:20 AM PST by Ole Okie
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Translation, your pain, Democrat’s gain. Truly as un-American as it gets.

Reject Obamunism.

All this election proves is it is quite easy to make idiot voters out of ignorant people. The government schools provide the ignorants in prodigious quantity, the community organizers turn them, into idiot voters.


19 posted on 11/23/2008 6:43:39 AM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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Fixing roads and bridges that nobody can afford to use after 0 causes fuel prices to rise with his green goo policies.

Roads and bridges to nowhere.


22 posted on 11/23/2008 10:06:24 AM PST by Mike Darancette (I have nothing to say - Oliver Hardy)
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Note it says “save or” create jobs...HOW can one prove jobs were saved? That is saying they were not lost, and how cn one prove a negative? It is impossible, and he is a lawyer.


24 posted on 11/23/2008 12:09:30 PM PST by PghBaldy (I shall call him President Little Squirt...)
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If it involves more government spending and demand side stimulus, the GOP clown has already tried that and it doesn’t work.


26 posted on 11/23/2008 2:19:08 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Created 2.5 millions jobs? Right, he is going to nationalize all the 18-24 year olds and force them into the Hitler Youth work gangs. Or is he going to bring back FDR’s gulag work gangs of the 1930’s?


27 posted on 11/23/2008 2:20:41 PM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
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It will in fact be reparations. Blacks will become salaried scalawags with nowork but having jobs. The unwed mothers will get mega $$ for their kids and grandma will spend it.

Gang bangers will be given amnesty and territories will be marked with paint.


28 posted on 11/23/2008 2:28:25 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of waferin)
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Like Clintoon, who promised a tax cut for the “Middle Class”, an “economic stimulus” package that rebuilt roads, bridges, infrastructure, green technology, etc,,, this is like reading a headline or MSM article from 1992.

Instead, Slick Willy “was forced” to give us a record tax increase across the board.

Talk is cheap.....


29 posted on 11/23/2008 2:37:57 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go?)
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