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Citigroup, Under Siege, Holds Talks With U.S.
The New York Times ^ | 2008-11-22 | Andrew Ross Sorkin & Louise Story

Posted on 11/21/2008 6:39:32 PM PST by rabscuttle385

With the sharp stock-market decline for Citigroup rapidly becoming a full-blown crisis of confidence, the company’s executives on Friday entered into talks with federal officials about how to stabilize the struggling financial giant.

In a series of tense meetings and telephone calls, the executives and officials weighed several options, including whether to replace Citigroup’s leadership or sell all or part of the company. Other options discussed included a public endorsement from the government or a new financial lifeline, people involved in the talks said.

The course of action, however, remained uncertain on Friday night, these people said, and other options may yet emerge.

But after a year of gaping losses and an accelerating decline in its stock price, Citigroup, which has $2 trillion in assets and operations in scores of countries, is running out of time, analysts said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bailout; bushbailout; bushsellout; citi; citigroup; economy; epicfail; failure; financialcrisis; govwatch; pandit; sellout; socialism; wallstreet
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To: monkeycard; xzins
I hear Chapter 11 calling Citi’s name.

So you think these big financial institutions would cut you any slack if your suddenly found yourself in a situation where maybe you couldn't meet your obligations to them? No, they'd cancel your card and raise your interest rates up to 30% and turn you in to the credit reporting agencies as a bad credit risk and destroy your life.

Back when I was in my twenties, I ran into some financial difficulties and couldn't make the full payment on my gasoline cards. I had one from Texaco and one from Chevron. Texaco worked with me until I got on my feet, but Chevron told me pound sand and turned me into the credit agencies when I couldn't make the payment in full.

I have never again bought a nickle's worth of gas at a Chevron station. I would rather walk five miles with a gas can to a Texaco station than to buy a nickle's worth of gas from Chevron.

61 posted on 11/22/2008 7:41:12 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

BUMP


62 posted on 11/22/2008 7:46:32 AM PST by XR7
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To: underbyte

I personally will welcome our new pirate overlords.


63 posted on 11/22/2008 7:47:10 AM PST by TFine80 (The 1994 Revolution Petered Out.... So Let's Try Again and Do It Right!)
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To: Lucas McCain

I have a new credit card from Citibank. Maybe I won’t have to pay it off.


64 posted on 11/22/2008 7:49:50 AM PST by McGruff
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To: LRoggy
Yup. If there is any justice Citi goes down and NM survives and thrives.
65 posted on 11/22/2008 7:59:38 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“Citi is a company of snarky jerks and their downfall is due entirely to greed and arrogance.”

Not sure how one makes such a comment about such a large group of folks.
I know lots of people that work/have worked there.

You do realize that there are hundreds of thousands of people employed and now over 50,000 will lose their jobs?


66 posted on 11/22/2008 8:08:55 AM PST by romanesq
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To: Frantzie
No worries. Robert Rubin the “genius” according to the DNC-MSM is the vice chairman and has it under control. He has been paid at least $20 million a year since he left the Clintoon Admin and will probably get a gig with Obie.

Isn't it delightful to watch how these elite business school wonder boys... the ones who are vastly smarter than anyone else in America (and vote Democrat in droves because they yearn for the aristocracy of Old Europe) have, in less than 20 years, destroyed our economy and our political system because they think they are just so much better than us local knuckle draggers?

Rubin, Schmoobin... wait until you see what the new Treasury Secretary has in store. Folks, the Treasury Secretary USED to protect the taxpayer's money. Now, the Treasury Secretary is the NATIONAL INVESTMENT BANKER! Here, to save the day with the same old tricks that have destroyed Wall Street and the economy.

We are in deep doodoo, folks. Buy gold and Swiss Francs.

68 posted on 11/22/2008 8:15:37 AM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: Proud Paulbot
I agree that the Saudis helped Reagan, but since then we have had 9/11, and they don't like us in Iraq. So times change.They have not contiinued to work with us in the former way.

You must have noticed?

69 posted on 11/22/2008 8:15:38 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: romanesq
"Not sure how one" gets to your conclusions from what I posted.

I said "corporate culture", which is a generalization of a company's attitude as a whole: not a judgment of individuals.

And there's nothing wrong with wishing them ill: there are consequences for actions and while I feel bad for the genuinely good people who work there, any company that behaves the way Citi has, deserves what it gets.

Like misbehaved children, companies that treat their customers like dirt need to be spanked by the market now and again.

70 posted on 11/22/2008 8:27:44 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (By Obama's own reckoning, isn't Lyndon LaRouche more qualified? He's run since the 70's)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Citi is a company of snarky jerks and their downfall is due entirely to greed and arrogance.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><p.

Thats also the word from my brokers in Montreal.


71 posted on 11/22/2008 8:36:46 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Citi is a company of snarky jerks and their downfall is due entirely to greed and arrogance.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

( repost , sorry)

Thats also the word from my brokers in Montreal.

72 posted on 11/22/2008 8:37:13 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: P-Marlowe
So you think these big financial institutions would cut you any slack if your suddenly found yourself in a situation ...

I have absolutely no doubt that most financial institutions would rather ruin their customers lives than work with them. Having said that, respect to Texaco! In the past I too have run foul of these companies so now I do not have a credit card out of choice.
73 posted on 11/22/2008 8:49:40 AM PST by monkeycard (There's no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I had the same problem at the same age with Mobil.

I’ve NEVER gone back.


74 posted on 11/22/2008 9:28:00 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: rabscuttle385

The problem is that we’ve entered deflation and the totality of their loan portfolio is about to go into decline, meaning they’re undercollaterallized on every debt note they hold. All asset values are going to decline in this environment.

It’s the size of their loan portfolio, on sheet and off, that is tanking them first.

I dont think they can really be saved. The Gub already has them on complete life support, via the FED covering all their withdrawels for them in the form of auction facilities, but there reaches a point where the only money in the bank is the Gub’s because they’ve got no depositors left. There’s also a point where the Plunge Protection Team at Treasury owns all the stock. The price suggests we might be closer there than a lot of people think.

I think we’re entering the ‘try to mask a run’ phase, IMO.


75 posted on 11/22/2008 9:41:00 AM PST by skipper18
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To: skipper18

or maybe I should stop reading Rense on Saturday Mornings.


76 posted on 11/22/2008 9:44:31 AM PST by skipper18
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To: rabscuttle385

The tax payer funded government pig is running out of tits—I think.


77 posted on 11/22/2008 10:16:13 AM PST by dools007
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To: rabscuttle385
i guess the Mets are gonna need a new name for their stadium.

so long, Citi Field.

78 posted on 11/22/2008 10:17:42 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: rabscuttle385

The tax payer funded government pig is running out of tits I think.

But, in the end, it is important to reward failure and bad behavior. Success and good behavior must be punished.


79 posted on 11/22/2008 10:18:24 AM PST by dools007
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To: LRoggy
Don't forget that they also own Primerica, the predators of the lower middle class in life insurance and mutual fund sales.

Can you tell me more about Primerica?

80 posted on 11/22/2008 10:35:40 AM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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