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Unique “Orphan Genes” Are Widespread; Have No Evolutionary Explanation
CEH ^ | November 19, 2008

Posted on 11/20/2008 8:42:51 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Here is a finding that amounts to falsification of Darwinism and confirmation of creationism (limited variation within created kinds), and these authors tiptoed around the bad news with carefully-crafted passive verbs built on the assumption that evolution might explain it somehow, provided you are willing to wait for the vaporware and futureware that is perpetually on back order. “Their functions and origins are often obscure,” we are told. They “emerged” somehow...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: beagle; creation; darwin; darwinsfinches; drosophila; evolution; falsified; hydra; hydrozoa; hym301; intelligentdesign; orphangenes; plosbiology; sacerevisiae; sciencedaily; trg; tribolium
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1 posted on 11/20/2008 8:42:52 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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ping!


2 posted on 11/20/2008 8:43:36 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Isn’t 90% of DNA garbage anyway?...............


3 posted on 11/20/2008 8:45:51 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Genetic mutation is a well-known and documented phenomenon.
4 posted on 11/20/2008 8:46:53 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

This must mean the stork brings babies.


5 posted on 11/20/2008 8:52:02 AM PST by PC99
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To: pnh102

The paper specifically states there is no evidence to suggest mutation is in any way responsible for the orphan genes in the Hydra.


6 posted on 11/20/2008 8:52:57 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: GodGunsGuts
Unique “Orphan Genes” Are Widespread; Have No Evolutionary Explanation

...that we know of, yet.

7 posted on 11/20/2008 8:54:47 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

This does not “prove” anything. In bacteria there are plasmids (extra chromosomal DNA) that are used as a means of adaption and survival. In the presence of an environmental extremity genetic material can be moved in and out of the functional genes to allow for a modification in the phenotype and a chance at developing resistance. This is precisely how MRSA developed.

The “unused” DNA in higher order plants and animals are the same. All it takes is a change in the reading frame of a codon to cause the activation of any of these dormant segments. Those mutations can result from environmental or random changes. They do not disprove evolution since there is no change in speciation expected. They only indicate that the genetic material is available to allow variations within a species to support it’s continued survival.


8 posted on 11/20/2008 8:55:04 AM PST by FormerRep
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To: Red Badger

==Isn’t 90% of DNA garbage anyway?

Actually, Creationist and ID scientists have been predicting that the so-called “junk DNA” would someday prove to be functional. And as it turns out, scientists are finding that more and more of this non-coding DNA is critical to cellular function, organismal development, etc...just as Creationists and IDers predicted.


9 posted on 11/20/2008 8:56:08 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: PC99

You are free to believe what you wish.


10 posted on 11/20/2008 8:57:59 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

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This does not “prove” anything. In bacteria there are plasmids (extra chromosomal DNA) that are used as a means of adaption and survival. In the presence of an environmental extremity genetic material can be moved in and out of the functional genes to allow for a modification in the phenotype and a chance at developing resistance. This is precisely how MRSA developed.

The “unused” DNA in higher order plants and animals are the same. All it takes is a change in the reading frame of a codon to cause the activation of any of these dormant segments. Those mutations can result from environmental or random changes. They do not disprove evolution since there is no change in speciation expected. They only indicate that the genetic material is available to allow variations within a species to support it’s continued survival.
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Yeah! What he said!

Seriously though, the presence of these genes doesn’t ‘disprove’ evolution.

Unlike creationists, scientists don’t pretend to have all the answers. Not to be insulting, but the article proves nothing and the quote above explains why.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 8:59:28 AM PST by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Aliens from outer space. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!


12 posted on 11/20/2008 9:00:28 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

um uuugh.

methinks im devolving.

No, I’m ok now, I just had to exhale all the trapped CO2, You know that poisonous gas we exhale, that plants and all life need, take a breath, and don’t feel guilty.
I’m sharp as a tack now, Don’t step on me!
Seriously we need the debate, we want the debate, there is observational evidence that the universe began. Steveie Hawkins is plying a dead tree. (multiple universes my a$$).
We live in the here and the now, be good!, be brave!, be Yourselves! and remember this: when you try to tune your radio on an AM channel (Most reccommended) and you hear that weired noise, well some of it is the sound of the big bang.


13 posted on 11/20/2008 9:03:24 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: CE2949BB

There is no coherent evolutionary explanation for any facet of life. They can’t claim the simple statement that life changes over time, because Creationists have always believed in change over time. Creationists simply assert that there are limits to that change...an assertion that is backed up by the evidence. Whereas, the Temple of Darwin asserts that blind processes fashioned molecules into millions of super sophisticated designs, ultimately leading to man, the crowning achievement of Darwin’s natural selection god. It is far more rational to conclude that intelligence came from intelligence, that sophistication came from sophistication, etc, etc.


14 posted on 11/20/2008 9:07:23 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: navyguy; GodGunsGuts
Unlike creationists, scientists don’t pretend to have all the answers.

Unlike creationists, scientists don’t

Darwinists do pretend to have all the answers.

Evolution is still a hypothetical construct.


15 posted on 11/20/2008 9:14:50 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: navyguy; FormerRep

So now the evos are arguing in favor of environmentally directed mutations? I thought mutations were supposed to be completely random? Could it be that they have been forced into this position because RM + NS is insufficient to explain the complexity of life? BTW, Creationist Scientists have always maintained that the Creator designed his creatures with the ability to adapt to environmental changes.


16 posted on 11/20/2008 9:15:37 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: TommyDale
Aliens from outer space. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!

Haha.

Funny how much your silly statement resembles "God did it".

17 posted on 11/20/2008 9:16:45 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: XeniaSt

Thank you...took the words right out of my mouth. Except I would only add, for many (take the Brites for example) Darwinism is a religious construct.


18 posted on 11/20/2008 9:18:13 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Red Badger
Isn’t 90% of DNA garbage anyway?

90% of the code on a Microsoft Windows install disc has no apparent active function.


19 posted on 11/20/2008 9:19:06 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: mc6809e; TommyDale
Funny how much your silly statement resembles "God did it".

Actually, that silly statement more matches Dr. Crick's, an evolutionist and prestigious award-winning co-discoverer of DNA, Directed Panspermia hypothesis. Citing many reasons that he believed life could not have "evolved" from the alleged primordial stew of ancient Earth (not enough time, earth's temperature, and so forth), he "theorized" that aliens, via spaceships, seeded planet Earth with life.

Maybe the other poster was making reference to Crick.

20 posted on 11/20/2008 9:31:38 AM PST by pby
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