Catholic Bishops finally step up against abortion Democrats

The Collins Report ^ | November 20, 2008 | Kevin “Coach” Collins

[jmaroneps37]

America’s Catholic Bishops are making their voices heard on abortion. Seeing 52% of Catholics vote for Barack Obama, has shocked them into action.

They are taking their fight directly to Catholic politicians who support and promote the destruction of innocent babies. The Bishops are starting at the top and sparing no one. They have publicly vowed to confront President elect Obama and his putatively Roman Catholic Vice President elect Joseph Biden on the issue of abortion. They are also warning all Catholics that supporting abortion is a sin.

This is a new and encouraging development. In the past, the bishops only talked a good game about abortion, now they’re backing up their words with meaningful actions. Close to sixty Catholic Bishops intend to withhold Holy Communion from Catholic politicians in their diocese who support and promote abortion. Some have extended this policy to individual Catholics as well.

This is a serious challenge to Catholic politicians. Many will be forced to answer the question of what religion they practice: Catholicism or Democratism.

This campaign’s lack of media references to Biden being a Catholic might be an indication it’s getting the message: Abortion supporting Catholic Democrats will no longer get a pass from their Church on their positions.

Those calling themselves adherent Catholics will be tested as well.

Unless the Democrats start running Catholics who defend life, eventually the Bishops will start instructing Catholics not to support them at the risk of committing a mortal sin.

The Bishops are also talking about closing Catholic hospitals rather than knuckle under to Blue State demands to do abortions or lose funding.

Standing on principles has worked for the Church in the past. It will work again. Big changes are coming to the American Catholic Church.

Welcome to the fight Catholic Bishops; we need you.

[Elvina]

There will be NO split in the Church. There will be those who ARE Catholic and those who chose NOT to be.

Well said. Those who refuse to submit to the Godly authority of the Catholic Church can certainly find many (not all) Protestant churches who won't even mention the Democrats' satanic ritual of abortion. The United Methodists come to mind.

[Bloodclot]

Seeing 52% of Catholics vote for Barack Obama, has shocked them into action.

Their shocked! Where have the Bishops been under a f'n rock?

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Not a peep out of our priests here in the boonies of PA. They let you know they’re anti-war, but they don’t want to bring up abortion. Might hurt attendance, I guess.

[chatham]

You are either a Catholic and follow the rules of the Church or you are not a Catholic.
“Bout time the “Bishops” got some courage.

[chatham]

These “Faux” bishops are not Shepards of Christ’s Church and haven’t been so for many decades.

They are much more interested in their own station and in the excesses of the world.

[wintertime]

With 60% of Catholics voting for baby-killing Democrats, the bishops have failed at their job of teaching Christian values to their members. ( Kittymyrib)

Too many bishops and "Catholic" education leaders worship Karl Marx and practice the religion of Liberation Theology and Social Justice.

So?....Is it any wonder that 45% of Mass attending Catholics were confused and voted for Obama? If a candidate comes along whose campaign rhetoric preaches Marxist Social Justice why shouldn't they think he is god on earth?

[chatham]

The Catholic Church has been pushing the Democrat line for Years and years.

[Scotswife]

“It’s not hard to envision a whole new “American Catholic Church” that would allow all the things Abortion/gay marriage supporting Democrats to fool themselves into thinking they are moral beings.”

I can think of certain places where this has already happened. They just haven’t made it official yet.

Maybe in a few years certain churches will have to change their front door signs to “American Catholic Church”

[wmfights]

Unless the Democrats start running Catholics who defend life, eventually the Bishops will start instructing Catholics not to support them at the risk of committing a mortal sin.

Problems don't get solved by ignoring reality. The Bishops did come out in very strong language and told their parishioners that voting for a pro abortion candidate would be morally grave. 52% of those in their church didn't care what they said.

[RetiredArmy]

No problem. The voting Catholics did not listen to their Bishops when they voted massively for the Marxists. My wife was born into a Catholic family. She went to mass and all throughout her early life. When her priest in Seattle got busted for child porn and messing with boys, she quit going. She was disgusted with the behavior of the priests in her church. She started going to church with me after we were married. She accepted Christ as her Savior and was baptized into the Southern Baptist faith and we attend our nice little Baptist Church here in Alabama, where we have a wonderful group of very old to young people in a church that was founded in 1852 on the location it stands today. The old wooden church building is long gone and replaced with a nice brick church. We have a great Pastor, that I met when we first moved into our new house. He was from my old high school and had finished the year after I did. He is a fantastic guy and preaches a great sermon. He does not scream, rant, jump around like some I have seen. He is very, very good. We go to both services on Sunday, and on Wednesday evenings we have a Bible study hour which he leads.

[kitkat]

***Alarmingly, they often switch the subject to other social issues, of which they think the Democratic agenda adds up to a greater good for all.****

Typical leftist way of avoiding the main point of a discussion. The only way to keep it from happening, is to say you’ll be glad to discuss the NEW point, but let’s settle the FIRST point first.

[4everontheRight]

A priest at one of our local Catholic churchs wrote in his blog that if any of his parishioners voted for Obama they should do penitence prior to receiving communion due to Obama’s stand on abortion. The state bishop (no district bishop here right now) did not stand behind him!! This is why the church is so ignored. They have no back bone and due to their own internal issues, they are afraid to call anyone out!
Of course, other churches are no better...so many are more worried about what goes in the collection plate and not offending anyone they have lost souls!

[LetMarch]

..........supporting abortion is sin. (I quote).
True, the Bible says:
“A high look, and a proud heart is sin, and the plowing of the wicked is sin. (Proverbs 21:4)
“The thought of foolishness is sin......”(Proverbs 24:9)
“.......for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.” (Romans 14:23)
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not , to him it is sin.” (James 4:17)
“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law, for sin is the trangression of the law.” (1 John 3:4)
All unrighteousness is sin.......” (1 John 5:17)
“For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23)
“Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin, and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” (James 1:15)(the Bible LSD = Lust Sin & Death)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

OUR ONLY HOPE AS SINNERS:
“But God commended His love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:8)
“For He (God) hath made Him (Jesus) to be sin for us,who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.”(2 Corinthians 5:21)
“Let everything that hath breath the LORD! Praise ye the LORD!” (Psalm 150:6)

[SuziQ]

With 60% of Catholics voting for baby-killing Democrats, the bishops have failed at their job of teaching Christian values to their members. The politicians they are belatedly complaining about wouldn’t be in office if Catholic voters didn’t put them there.

The problem doesn't lie with this current crop of Bishops. It's a problem of poor catechetics over the last 40 years. Starting with CCD when I was in high school, teaching of the Faith has been watered down over the years, as feminists and liberals got hold of the staffs of companies that create the materials. In the 80's, the 'Seamless Garment' idea was pushed by those same folks, so too many Catholics have no firm idea of what it means to be a Catholic.

Unfortunately, too many Catholics heard the Bishops, but ignored them, because they believed that the economic downturn was caused by the Republicans, since Bush is President. They wanted 'change', thinking that Obama was going to 'turn things around'. Yeah, well, they're gonna get change, but I don't think they're going to like it too much.

All that being said, I'm glad these new Bishops are taking the Faith seriously, and are not as wedded to the Democrat party as their predecessors were.

[SuziQ]

Perhaps the Catholic Church should clean out the nest of perverts they have, or have had in their priesthood?

Old news. In case you haven't been paying attention, the vast majority of the abuse took place over 20 years ago, and those priests HAVE been dealt with, either by the legal authorities, or in cases where the Statute of Limitations ran out, by the Church itself. This new group of Bishops has no tolerance for the pervs, and have been working to change Seminaries, wresting them from the liberals who had been running them for years.

There might have been some backlash for that situation in this election, but I don't think it was that much. I believe it was 'genetic Democrats', who hadn't had someone in the past few elections who excited them enough to bring them back to the Party, and Obama was that person. As I mentioned in a previous post, some Catholics I've talked to who voted for Obama did so because of the economy. I'm not even sure they knew what his stance on abortion actually was. All they saw was 'change', and they believed the Republicans caused the economic crisis, not the Democrats.

[SuziQ]

Alarmingly, they often switch the subject to other social issues, of which they think the Democratic agenda adds up to a greater good for all. Like I said, the pro-abortion position is difficult one to defend.

That's precisely what pro-abortion 'Catholics' have done for years, and what Doug Kmiec did for Obama this year. Some Catholics want to vote for the Democrats because of 'social justice' issues, so they fool themselves into thinking that those issues outweigh abortion in the grand scheme of things. The NCCB's "Faithful Citizenship" letter only served to confuse the matter, because the pro-abortion Catholics jumped all over that to justify their position.

[fortunecookie]

Indeed, some bishops have long been there, the 'American' Catholic Church. It's sad that while many Bishops have stepped up, not all Bishops have stepped up.

It's not hard to envision a whole new "American Catholic Church" that would allow all the things Abortion/gay marriage supporting Democrats to fool themselves into thinking they are moral beings.

With Maria Shriver proudly announcing she's a 'cafeteria' Catholic, as though that is somehow the 'intelligent' choice, a split might just be inevitable. Propping up other Catholics (seeming, to them) dissent, Cinos like Pelosi and Biden, as though it were a 'good' thing.

[grellis]

for later

[giotto]

Gee, if they had done this before the election think it might have had an effect on the outcome??

I don't think they thought Obama would win. They hoped that they could remain silent or impartial AND that it would all turn out all right. It didn't, and now they panic. This is why I have no use for the Church as an institution. People look to their priests and bishops for guidance, and all they get is pious platitudes and ambiguous double speak worthy of a politician. My mother's priest held an all night vigil, but he offered no help in choosing the best candidate. He said nothing about Obama's outrageous votes on BAIPA or his extreme pro-abortion views. She voted for Obama.

[Desdemona]

Nice cross.

Mine actually has a Corpus.

The Kennedys are an embarrassment.