Posted on 11/18/2008 3:21:54 PM PST by pissant
According to a press release from the American Independent Party, former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and other members of the party have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento to stop the state from giving its electoral votes to President-elect Barack Obama until documentary evidence is provided to prove Obama is indeed a natural born citizen of the United States.
When he was asked why his suit was being filed, Ambassador Keyes commented:
"I and others are concerned that this issue be properly investigated and decided before Senator Obama takes office. Otherwise there will be a serious doubt as to the legitimacy of his tenure. This doubt would also affect the respect people have for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. I hope the issue can be quickly clarified so that the new President can take office under no shadow of doubt. This will be good for him and for the nation."
Mr Keye's lawsuit is not the first to be filed, challenging Senator Obama's eligibility to hold the office of the President. A Petition for Writ of Certiorari is currently pending in the United States Supreme Court and a hearing is apparently being held today in Hawaii, on a petition which seeks to have Barack Obama's original 1961 birth certificate made public.
See affliated blogs on this subject at this link, this link and this link.
Well, I shouldn’t speak to soon. The GOP might just join the dems and try to pass a Constitutional Amendment to allow him to stay. LOL
You said — “Honestly at this point, it is beginning to taste like some Gore2000ish sour grapes.”
Not really, if a candidate and a President-Elect will *not* produce his original birth certificate when the issue is in question and is a matter of the Constitution as far as eligibility of office.
It’s such a *minor thing* for a person to produce such a document, that having someone spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to *refuse to show it* — “shows” (in and of itself) that there is definitely some kind of problem there....
But what the hell, let's have a shred the Constitution party.
You said — “Chances are that Obama is NOT a us citizen. Nevertheless, our leaders and people will not give a rat’s a$$. So don’t waste your time. It’s not going to happen. You are giving yourself false hope.”
Perhaps a large segment does not care. However, all it takes is just *one* court case to either show it or be disqualified from the office with a birth certificate showing a person being *not* a natural-born citizen.
So, our government and our way of life has — many times — been radically changed by *one simple lawsuit* that won and changed many things....
In this particular case, it’s very worthwhile to maintain the integrity of the Constitution, in regards to the qualifications for a candidate for the office of President of the United States....
This link is now dead. Hmmmmm!?!?!? Can you copy and paste original article? http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324
You said — “Well, I shouldn’t speak to soon. The GOP might just join the dems and try to pass a Constitutional Amendment to allow him to stay. LOL”
It can’t be done fast enough to override a court order saying that he’s unqualified *right now*. A Constitutional Amendment has to be approved by the various states in the United States. That’s *not* a very fast process. It will take a few years, especially with the kind of “political fight” that it will created in the various states that this issue would be voted on...
Their database is just down now. It will be back up again, after they reset or restart their database...
“Honestly at this point, it is beginning to taste like some Gore2000ish sour grapes.”
Nah. Just curiosity.
Look at it as a pre-inauguration day test regarding his knowledge of economics: If he’d rather spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers’ fees resisting a simple, legitimate request that could be satisfied by spending a mere ten dollars, then how savvy could he be about the billions of dollars involved in an issue like the auto bailout?
Hussein’s supporters don’t care if he’s natural born or not. They want him.
Thank you ST.
If he in fact was born in Mombasa Kenya, he has never been a U.S. Citizen, even though he has a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. Which probably does not tell where he was born.
At first I thought this was all tinfoil hat stuff. Not any more, It must be real.
Take that and collecting 600 million dollars in campaign funds, undetermined amount illegally from off shore.
If this Marxist takes control, there will be a civil war.
What a mess we are in, if he is found out, and not sworn in, there will be riots in the street.
Some of the damage is already done, we cannot simply undo the financial collapse, but it can gradually recover if everyone backs away from the destruction of the Republic.
Criminally unscrupulous Democrats and a traitorous Press brought us here. And voters who did not have a clue where the train was going before they climbed on.
Some of those supporters have already lost their jobs.
What a mess!
If Zero isn't a "Natural Born U.S. Citizen" then the time for bringing that to light has passed. Maybe if we had gone after it a year ago we might have gotten to the truth. Now the "moment" has been lost. Consider the following.
If Zero IS REALLY a "Natural Born U.S. Citizen" then all the delay tactics are just to set us up to look stupid.
If Zero IS NOT a "Natural Born U.S. Citizen" then the delay tactics have provided enough time for suitable "Proof" of him being a "Natural Born U.S. Citizen" to be manufactured and appropriately inserted into the record.
Does anybody here in their heart of hearts really believe that Zero, with all the money at his disposal, and all the Dems nationwide willing to break laws, blatantly, to see him elected, couldn't get that done in the time allowed?
End result, we look stupid.
Personally, I believe in the second scenario....But that's just my take.
I have to agree with you. And anyway, if the electoral votes don’t go to Obama, does that mean they automatically go to McCain? Seems they would go to no one. So if neither one of them gets enough electoral votes, does that mean congress decides? And just what do you think they will decide....
By all means, FILE as many as the court system can handle, in as many states as possible, so that the Oba-Messiah AND the DNC have to answer the summons!
But...WHY oh why in California? On appeal to the 9th Circuit Court...THE most liberal in the country...it’ll get NO traction whatsoever!
Should Obama produce a verifiable document I’ll accept his presidency.
I believe he truly won the election. I do believe there was voter fraud, but not enough to have changed the outcome.
I haven’t whined in the least, and I don’t intend to.
But I don’t see an insistence on Constitutional requirements as “whining.” I really wanted this issue resolved before the election, and the Courts have been downright negligent about it.
We must have a mechanism for determining the eligibility of every Presidential candidate. Repubs, Dems, Libertarians, I don’t care. I want an honest election with viable candidates. The fact that we are having to agitate so long and so hard for a basic constitutional requirement to be met is outrageous.
We're doing that right here by separating the men from the boys, the believers in the Constitution from the mere pretenders.
Oh and the best way to keep him from doing any damage that has to be mitigated is to not let him get into any position to do the damage in the first place. Right????
- - - I disagree.
Obama has not produced the necessary evidence.
Until he came along, it has never been a problem, as far as I know. There was no question about the legitimacy regarding constitutional requirements of prior candidates and the eventual winners.
Obama has made it a legitimate question and thus a problem that will hang over his head.
So get up from the desk and go sit on the couch.
Let others write your share of letters.
Let others make your share of phone calls.
And then someday it'll be easier to rationalize someone else standing your place in the firing line.
(praying it won't beome necessary)
And then someday when your grandkids ask "what did you do in 'the troubles' grandpa" . . . ?
(if our Constitution and Republic survive)
fear passes, but regrets are forever
The electors are free to vote for anyone. I doubt those chosen for Obama would vote for McCain. More likely, they would vote for a Democrat.
Could be. But my guess is that he is not releasing it because it does not match his forged COLB. Forging birth documents is a felony.
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