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Cell Chaperone Is an Optimized Two-Stroke Machine ("design principles well suited to operation")
CEH ^ | November 15, 2008

Posted on 11/16/2008 9:56:07 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Proteins need a protected space to fold, and the cell provides it: the GroEL-GroES chaperone (see 05/05/2003, 06/07/2006, and 02/13/2007). More details keep coming in about this “protein dressing room” as scientists continue to probe its secrets. Two new papers in PNAS by a team at University of Maryland and College Park reveal that this is no passive cavity. The system acts like a two-stroke engine with two timers...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chaperone; creation; design; evolution

1 posted on 11/16/2008 9:56:08 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Cool. My Vespa is making DNA!


2 posted on 11/16/2008 9:57:27 AM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser

Your Vespa has two timers!?!?!


3 posted on 11/16/2008 9:58:04 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: All

I’m off to church. Will not be fielding questions/challenges until my return. God Bless!


4 posted on 11/16/2008 9:59:50 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

saved for later reading, sounds fascinating. The cell machinery keeps getting looked at and ‘exposed’ as tiny machines.


5 posted on 11/16/2008 10:05:27 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: BlueStateBlues
The cell machinery keeps getting looked at and ‘exposed’ as tiny machines.

There is no other way a cell could work.
6 posted on 11/16/2008 10:10:42 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Poser

Somebody’s gonna have some damn noisy cells.


7 posted on 11/16/2008 10:14:25 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’ll be in the shower. Let me know if anything happens.


8 posted on 11/16/2008 10:14:55 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The usual nonsense from a source well-versed in nonsense. A sample:

How did this system arise? One of the papers began with an oblique reference to evolution that raises more questions than it answers: “As with many other cellular machines, the chaperonin nanomachine has evolved to operate at variable speed in response to biological demand.” This puzzling statement seems to imply teleology – a sin in the world of Darwinian explanations. In neither paper, however, did the authors speculate on how a blind, purposeless process could have produced an optimized system as functionally efficient and complicated as the GroEL-GroES chaperone. Quite the contrary. The quote above used the word Design twice.

What these folks can't seem to understand is that these papers are describing simple feedback mechanisms. Nothing complicated about it!

You would think that folks would have grown wary of the god-in-the-gaps arguments by now, but they keep right on using them. I guess that's creation "science" for you, eh?

9 posted on 11/16/2008 10:25:08 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Two-stroke machine. Vespa.


10 posted on 11/16/2008 1:07:04 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser

I am aware Vespas run on two stroke engines. I was merely noting how surprising it would be if I were to find out that Vespa developed a second timing system to time the first!


11 posted on 11/16/2008 3:52:38 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

But they did. All you need is a couple of square feet of tinfoil to discover it.


12 posted on 11/16/2008 7:40:51 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser

No doubt that is how you became such an authority on the subject.


13 posted on 11/16/2008 9:36:31 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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