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1 posted on 11/16/2008 7:14:46 AM PST by BGHater
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When we reach a point where we cannot fight a war, without prosecuting our own for fighting it anyway necessary to win it, we are finished. The concept of national defense will be worthless.


2 posted on 11/16/2008 7:17:14 AM PST by EagleUSA
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I wish he’d pardon Ramos and Caminion (spelled?)
The border guards.


3 posted on 11/16/2008 7:17:45 AM PST by a real Sheila (Obama's presidency will cause Americans to have FOND memories of G.W. Bush.)
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Most vulnerable are US intelligence officers who took part in intensive interrogations against terrorist suspects, using techniques including water boarding, which many believe crossed the line into torture.

Obama changing Bush's policy is one thing, but then applying the new policy to past practice is another, and wrong. These folks need a pardon -- even though they are not guilty of anything -- to protect them from Obama and the liberals.

My bigger concern is that all of us will be held accountable to a changed set of standards that are applied to the past. It is a way to weed out political adversaries.

5 posted on 11/16/2008 7:19:55 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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Considering the Constitution has ceased to exist, will a pardon stop the Communists?


7 posted on 11/16/2008 7:21:21 AM PST by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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There’s a couple of border patrol agents who’s pardons I’d like to see on his to do list.


8 posted on 11/16/2008 7:22:12 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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Knowing Jorge, with Juan McCain’s endorsement, he will pardon the 20 million illegals and make them legal.


9 posted on 11/16/2008 7:22:25 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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This is absurd. By pardoning, he would be revealing their names making them a target for our enemies. Obama vote = Al Qaeda vote.


10 posted on 11/16/2008 7:37:02 AM PST by RushingWater (You say Obama - I say Ayers)
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But will El Busho have the guts? He’s done exactly two things right over 8 years. They are named Roberts and Alito. And he had to be forced into that by public outcry over his attempt to follow in his fathers footsteps by naming a female Souter. (Assuming there is a difference there.) Will he use his pardon power honorably, unlike slick Willie? Of course he should start with 2 border guards, shouldn’t he!


12 posted on 11/16/2008 7:48:23 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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You mean Pardon people who kept me and my family safe ????

HELL yes!!!!!!

13 posted on 11/16/2008 7:55:31 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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Jimmy Carter issued a general amnesty for all draft dodgers. Maybe Bush could pardon all people who interrogated terrorists, all soldiers who served in the war, Dick Cheney and John Bolton.

But I don't think he will. He would prefer to rely on the goodwill of the left, like his father. He's so darned "gracious".

15 posted on 11/16/2008 8:14:12 AM PST by Defiant (I for one welcome our new Obama Overlords.)
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Spies? What strange wording!

To pardon would be understood by many as admission of guilt. These men did nothing wrong.

I wish the British news outlets would tend to their own ruined house and quit trying to comment upon American issues.


17 posted on 11/16/2008 8:24:59 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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I’m uneasy about this. W needs to tread lightly. I’m not concerned that a pardon of torturers would enrage the ‘Rats, but I am concerned what it would enrage Islamo-fascists. They could launch another terrorist attack and blame Bush because he “pardoned our torturers”.


18 posted on 11/16/2008 8:37:07 AM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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Bush should issue a blanket pardon for the military, CIA, etc., excluding sexual assault, theft, and fraud. Imperfect justice, but better than persecution/prosecution by the Obama administration. Better to let one guilty person go free than to have 1000 innocent people punished.


20 posted on 11/16/2008 8:56:18 AM PST by omega4412
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BTTT!


21 posted on 11/16/2008 9:02:32 AM PST by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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He won’t.


23 posted on 11/16/2008 9:14:52 AM PST by I got the rope
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I hope he doesn’t pardon them. Those men did what the American people wanted done, which was find out quickly what pending threats were still in existence and who was involved. If a poll had been taken in November of 2001 about torture the overwhelming majority of Americans would have said “do it, and make it painful.” Besides, the house and senate committees on intelligence knew all about what was going on and half of them were Democrats. This needs to come out even if it takes a court of law to do it. Furthermore, before they can be prosecuted the court would need to define what constitutes torture.


27 posted on 11/16/2008 9:36:05 AM PST by yazoo
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Good they have kept MOOHAMAAD from killing another three thousand americans... Pardon away GW


28 posted on 11/16/2008 9:42:08 AM PST by crazydad
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“George W Bush could pardon spies involved in torture”

Whatever you do Mr. Bush, don’t pardon border patrol agents who tried to protect your country!


30 posted on 11/16/2008 9:53:47 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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Tim Shipman! LOL!


32 posted on 11/16/2008 12:05:41 PM PST by an amused spectator (I am Joe, too - I'm talkin' to you, VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
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If spies engaged in torture in California, how would a pardon protect them?

Presidential pardons do not shield people from prosecution by the state.


34 posted on 11/28/2008 12:53:41 PM PST by dbz77
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