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George W Bush could pardon spies involved in torture
Telegraph ^ | 15 Nov 2008 | Tim Shipman

Posted on 11/16/2008 7:14:46 AM PST by BGHater

George W Bush is considering issuing pardons for US spies embroiled in allegations of torture just before he leaves the White House.

Senior intelligence officers are lobbying the outgoing president to look after the men and women who could face charges for following his orders in the war on terrorism.

Many fear that Barack Obama, who has pledged to close the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and put an end to the policy of extraordinary rendition, could launch a legal witch hunt against those who oversaw the policies after he is sworn in on Jan 20.

Most vulnerable are US intelligence officers who took part in intensive interrogations against terrorist suspects, using techniques including water boarding, which many believe crossed the line into torture.

A former CIA officer familiar with the backstage lobbying for pardons, said: "These are the people President Bush asked to fight the war on terror for him. He gave them the green light to fight tough. The view of many in the intelligence community is that he should not leave them vulnerable to legal censure when he leaves.

"An effort is under way to get pre-emptive pardons. The White House has indicated that the matter is under consideration."

In addition to frontline CIA and military officers, others at risk could include David Addington, Dick Cheney's former counsel, and William Haynes, the former Pentagon general counsel who helped draw up the regulations governing enhanced interrogations.

Many in the Democratic party and human rights groups are calling on President-Elect Obama to tear up Mr Bush's executive orders licensing intensive interrogations on his first day in the Oval Office. They also want an immediate end to rendition, whereby suspects are flown to countries that practise torture.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; bush43; espionage; justice; pardon; pardons; torture; wot
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To: BGHater

BTTT!


21 posted on 11/16/2008 9:02:32 AM PST by bigheadfred (FREE EVAN VELA, freeevanvela.com)
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To: DHC-2

That and post #11.....


22 posted on 11/16/2008 9:10:08 AM PST by lilycicero
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To: BGHater

He won’t.


23 posted on 11/16/2008 9:14:52 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: TFMcGuire

True. The British have to know that they are responsible for most of this mess. They are the ones that created little Kingdoms (where none existed) all over the middle-east.


24 posted on 11/16/2008 9:17:18 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: a real Sheila

Ramos and Campion. Amen!


25 posted on 11/16/2008 9:19:59 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: IGOTMINE

They should be pardoned and I would rather see my tax dollars go to a pension for them then bail out these other bast*rds.


26 posted on 11/16/2008 9:21:38 AM PST by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: BGHater

I hope he doesn’t pardon them. Those men did what the American people wanted done, which was find out quickly what pending threats were still in existence and who was involved. If a poll had been taken in November of 2001 about torture the overwhelming majority of Americans would have said “do it, and make it painful.” Besides, the house and senate committees on intelligence knew all about what was going on and half of them were Democrats. This needs to come out even if it takes a court of law to do it. Furthermore, before they can be prosecuted the court would need to define what constitutes torture.


27 posted on 11/16/2008 9:36:05 AM PST by yazoo
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To: BGHater

Good they have kept MOOHAMAAD from killing another three thousand americans... Pardon away GW


28 posted on 11/16/2008 9:42:08 AM PST by crazydad
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To: a real Sheila

You beat us to it.


29 posted on 11/16/2008 9:51:41 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: BGHater

“George W Bush could pardon spies involved in torture”

Whatever you do Mr. Bush, don’t pardon border patrol agents who tried to protect your country!


30 posted on 11/16/2008 9:53:47 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: DHC-2

A lot of people hoped W would go after Clinton in the legal sense. Wonder if O goes after W.


31 posted on 11/16/2008 10:20:22 AM PST by Terry Mross ( It's just a matter of time before we're all 'GUILTY' of hate speech.)
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To: BGHater

Tim Shipman! LOL!


32 posted on 11/16/2008 12:05:41 PM PST by an amused spectator (I am Joe, too - I'm talkin' to you, VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
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To: Terry Mross
Wonder if O goes after W.

Gads, I hope so.

33 posted on 11/16/2008 12:06:16 PM PST by an amused spectator (I am Joe, too - I'm talkin' to you, VBM: The Volkischer Beobachter Media)
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To: BGHater

If spies engaged in torture in California, how would a pardon protect them?

Presidential pardons do not shield people from prosecution by the state.


34 posted on 11/28/2008 12:53:41 PM PST by dbz77
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