[Fichori]

Makes me glad I never had to attend publik skooal.

[SeeSharp]

The press never mentions the fact that the Jonestown cult were committed communists, not christians. Here is a video of them singing the Soviet national anthem.

[GOP Poet]

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[Nextrush]

Jim Jones called himself “socialist” in the last will and testament tape made as the Kool Aid was passed.

He followed Marx and Lenin and had nothing to with religion in general or Christianity in particular. Her makes it clear on that tape.

He hijacked a Christian church to build a Communist commune.

[snarks_when_bored]

Jim Jones was mostly interested in enhancing his chances of bedding women. The same goes for David Koresh and similar weasels...

[WildcatClan]

http://www.planetebook.com/ebooks/1984.pdf

[FBD]

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[liberateUS]

We are drifting into the sort of horrific future he described. Too many of us for comfort or solace have become just like the denizens of Jonestown: Orwell's children -- a new generation of creature enraged into constant militancy against eternal enemies, oblivious to the notion of a Blessed Creator, melded into the consciousness of the party hive, divorced from history, hypnotized by images, inoculated against reason, stripped of family, and existing only to serve the cause.

Remind you of anyone? I can't help seeing the masses in the US and abroad adoring their Messiah.

[mitch5501]

Chilling.

I remember seeing a documentary years ago about Russia and people who were around in Stalin's time were being interviewed.

I don't remember much about it but one statement stood out from someone close to Stalin.It was about Stalin and his brutality being the natural and inescapable end of communism.He (Stalin)was the perfect expression of communism taken to the nth degree,as if communism had been dreamt up with him in mind.

The current state of the world in general (and the systems it employs) looks like having a very similar thing happening to it.I suppose eventually there will be one who is the ultimate expression of the worldly system.

Then we'll see just exactly who's god is God.

[livius]

Faith in God is the biggest and in fact only threat to total state control. It gives the human being a separate moral identity and a separate allegiance, and this is why the state - when it’s on a rampage, as it is in Communism or Nazism - does everything possible to destroy religious faith. Faith makes one free.

Interestingly, in my mind, one of the biggest threats of Islam is that it is the only truly theocratic system that has ever existed on a large scale, that is, where government is (ideally) carried out by the clergy and where religious law and state law are identical. In other words, it achieves what everybody from the French revolutionaries to Hitler tried, and essentially neutralizes even faith by making the state into the voice of God. Islam’s gradual merging with Communism and extreme left-wing movements is no accident, because Islam is very collectivist and authoritarian by nature, and at the same time gives these totalitarian systems the final thing they need to exert ultimate control, that is, God (or at any rate, a deceptive claim that they represent God). Essentially, of course, they are all Luciferian.

[NewJerseyJoe]

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[joma89]

This post needs to be read by every FreeRepublic member.

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[mvpel]

Michael Power in early 1939 wrote: "In the Christianity of the German people, the National Socialist has found the one enemy it could not vanquish" - and Christians in Germany, alone, chose to voluntarily seek death before selling their souls to Nazism.

Certainly some notable Christians in Germany, but not all...

On April 20, 1939, Archbishop Orsenigo celebrated Hitler's
birthday. The celebrations, initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII)
became a tradition. Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin
was to send "warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of
the bishops and the dioceses in Germany" and added with
"fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are
sending to heaven on their altars."

"[Adolf Hitler is] the tool of God, called upon to overcome Judaism..." - Father Wilhelm Senn, a Catholic priest, writing in a Catholic publication, May 15, 1934

And in 1941, Hitler himself proclaimed to General Gerhard Engel: "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."

The main thing that the Christian community in Germany rose up against in earnest in the Nazi program was the forced sterilization and euthanasia of the "unfit," and they were able to beat it back.

[Cacique]

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[Don Stadt]

1984’s “IngSoc” was itself a Doublethink misnomer, just like “Ministry of Love” (which was about torture). In fact, IngSoc was intended to be an amalgam of English and American societies at the time.

The characteristics of Oceania are:

1. Anyone who doesn’t agree with the Party, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE CORRECT, is an enemy of the state. Hence, even top officials in the regime can be denounced as traitors. There is no middle ground, no room for compromise.

2. The War: One minute the enemy is Eurasia, then it’s Eastasia. The name of the enemy can even switch mid-sentence. The reason for this is that the three superpowers are fighting each other at all - the whole thing is a propaganda invention to unite the people within each superpower, boost support for the military, and the stories of great victories in far-off countries are used to boost morale and economic activity.

3. The revisionist culture of DoubleThink is used to convince people that whatever the regime says, is based on recordable fact even when it’s not.

4. The vitriol directed against Goldstein the man, flies in the face of the fact he’s the only political figurehead who’s actually talking sense. But he’s talking about stopping the war, rebuilding the country, and cutting the crap, which obviously the regime itself doesn’t want to hear.

5. The Anti-Sex Brigade is a sop to personal morality instigated by the regime to get people to focus on its wants not theirs; however it is a quasi-religious movement as it placates the most spiritually-minded proles.

6. The surveillance society. One thing that suppresses dissent is the feeling that “Big Brother is watching you”.

Any of these dubious qualities can be attached to ANY government, socialist or fascist, republican or democrat, religious or secular.

The book is an indictment of any political elite that gets so drunk on power that it begins to serve itself instead of the people, becomes intolerant of criticism or rejection from the people, and relies on fear and paranoia to keep the people on its side.

[bamahead]

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[Alkhin]

May God confound the godless Marxist!

[P-Marlowe]

From the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO:

Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.

On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its complement in the practical absence of the family among proletarians, and in public prostitution.

The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital.

Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty.

But, you say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.

And your education! Is not that also social, and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools, etc.? The Communists have not intended the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.

The bourgeois claptrap about the family and education, about the hallowed correlation of parents and child, becomes all the more disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all the family ties among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labor.

But you Communists would introduce community of women, screams the bourgeoisie in chorus.

The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women.

He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.

For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce free love; it has existed almost from time immemorial.

Our bourgeois, not content with having wives and daughters of their proletarians at their disposal, not to speak of common prostitutes, take the greatest pleasure in seducing each other's wives. (Ah, those were the days!)

Bourgeois marriage is, in reality, a system of wives in common and thus, at the most, what the Communists might possibly be reproached with is that they desire to introduce, in substitution for a hypocritically concealed, an openly legalized system of free love. For the rest, it is self-evident that the abolition of the present system of production must bring with it the abolition of free love springing from that system, i.e., of prostitution both public and private.

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Karl Marx and Frederick Engels Manifesto of the Communist Party 1848

Now tell me that today's liberals are not Communists.

[gost2]

I’ve been saying the same for years. Not so succinctly or expertly but the same. It bugs me that he has to call them Orwell’s children. Although it works to get the point across. They are Orwell’s murderers more like as they are erasing all knowledge of him or what he warned us of.

Just an aside: It is necessary to read C.S. Lewis’s “The Abolition of Man” to get just WHY man behaves in this manner. It IS puzzeling. Lewis does an excellent job of explaining it. Also the mechanics of just how it will come to pass and the inevitable conclusion of human kind on ‘this’ earth.

[JACKRUSSELL]

Jones: Christian or Communist?