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Professor Hired for Outreach to Muslims Delivers a Jolt (claims Muhammad never existed)
Wall Street Journal ^ | November 15, 2008 | Andrew Higgins

Posted on 11/15/2008 6:15:53 AM PST by reaganaut1

MÜNSTER, Germany -- Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany's first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn't like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.

So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.

Muslims, not surprisingly, are outraged. Even Danish cartoonists who triggered global protests a couple of years ago didn't portray the Prophet as fictional. German police, worried about a violent backlash, told the professor to move his religious-studies center to more-secure premises.

"We had no idea he would have ideas like this," says Thomas Bauer, a fellow academic at Münster University who sat on a committee that appointed Prof. Kalisch. "I'm a more orthodox Muslim than he is, and I'm not a Muslim."

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Prof. Kalisch, who insists he's still a Muslim, says he knew he would get in trouble but wanted to subject Islam to the same scrutiny as Christianity and Judaism. German scholars of the 19th century, he notes, were among the first to raise questions about the historical accuracy of the Bible.

Many scholars of Islam question the accuracy of ancient sources on Muhammad's life. The earliest biography, of which no copies survive, dated from roughly a century after the generally accepted year of his death, 632, and is known only by references to it in much later texts. But only a few scholars have doubted Muhammad's existence. Most say his life is better documented than that of Jesus.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; islam; muhammad
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To: trickyricky

I wonder if his mother’s abandonment of him was related to that same desire.


21 posted on 11/15/2008 7:38:40 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Leisler

Ouch! :-)

So, this guy became a Muslim because he thought the Islamic religion is rational???? I think he’s about to change his mind... or lose his head, whichever comes first.


22 posted on 11/15/2008 7:51:24 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: reaganaut1
The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.

The hell he didn't! We just elected him POTUS!

23 posted on 11/15/2008 7:58:15 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: stocksthatgoup

WTH???


24 posted on 11/15/2008 8:11:03 AM PST by Enchante (Thanks, Mediascum, you "elected" your candidate and now the country will pay....)
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To: DemonDeac

Guess another country didn’t “Vet” someone before giving him a big post, did they?


25 posted on 11/15/2008 8:14:41 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: reaganaut1
Muhammad Sven Kalisch

Welcome to Team Infidel, there's your locker, here's your uniform, suit up, you're playing left field today and batting 6th.

26 posted on 11/15/2008 8:20:26 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (It Should be Immediate OPEN SEASON on all RHINO's and PUMA's.)
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To: reaganaut1
Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert.
professor of Islamic theology.
States Muhammad didn't exist.

So the guy has a history demonstrating he is nuts. That's all.

27 posted on 11/15/2008 8:22:51 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: BenLurkin; reaganaut1

“If Mad Mo never lived then who cobbled together their phony “holy” book?”

These articles need to be verified, but often provide a good starting point for exploring a question:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_and_development_of_the_Qur’an


28 posted on 11/15/2008 8:30:01 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: reaganaut1

This guy is the Muslim version of Bart Ehrman:

http://bartdehrman.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman

The Book of Bart
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/04/AR2006030401369.html


29 posted on 11/15/2008 8:32:32 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: reaganaut1

Western civilization strikes back! Hey Muslims! That’s what you get for taking on a European theologian.


30 posted on 11/15/2008 8:39:53 AM PST by Funee Kat
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To: ovrtaxt
There are people out there who claim that Jesus never existed--I've seen classified ads for a book which purports to prove that Josephus invented Jesus.

This has been going on for a while. The late writer John Crosby had this reaction: "If that's true, the Thirty Years' War wasn't necessary."

31 posted on 11/15/2008 11:54:09 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Excerpt: Muslim Academic Questions Muhammad’s Existence
Wall Street Journal | November 14, 2008 | Muhammad Kalisch
Posted on 11/15/2008 6:19:35 AM PST by reaganaut1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2132601/posts

Germany’s First Professor of Islamic Theology - Muslim Convert:
“Prophet” Mohammed Never Existed....
weaselzippers.net | November 15, 2008 | Zip
Posted on 11/15/2008 5:26:58 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2132852/posts

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UK:Catholic Girl Killed by a Muslim for Dating a Muslim
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Posted on 11/12/2008 9:03:07 PM PST by Islaminaction
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yorkshirepost | 12 November 2008
Posted on 11/13/2008 10:01:09 AM PST by Righting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2131556/posts


32 posted on 11/17/2008 10:08:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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33 posted on 11/17/2008 10:08:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: reaganaut1

Salman Rushdie, meet your new roommate.


34 posted on 11/17/2008 10:12:08 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama: Satan's Counterfeit Christ)
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To: SunkenCiv; All
A great write up by Spengler on this:
Scandal exposes Islam's weakness
35 posted on 11/17/2008 10:13:26 AM PST by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: BGHater

Thanks!


36 posted on 11/17/2008 10:23:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: reaganaut1
People have said the same of Jesus. Although when speaking of prophets, I always thought of them as good people.
37 posted on 11/17/2008 12:11:11 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: reaganaut1; Dajjal

This was as well discussed in September http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/2088564/posts


38 posted on 11/17/2008 1:31:11 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: BenLurkin

> If Mad Mo never lived then who cobbled together their phony “holy” book?

Jayson Blair, silly!


39 posted on 11/17/2008 5:12:05 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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