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1 posted on 11/14/2008 8:17:49 AM PST by jazusamo
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2 posted on 11/14/2008 8:19:30 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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Oly for President!


3 posted on 11/14/2008 8:23:41 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Oliver North for VP under Palin.


4 posted on 11/14/2008 8:29:11 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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a major realignment of currencies coming up this Sunday evening....$ down...
7 posted on 11/14/2008 8:37:23 AM PST by thinking
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Reminds me of just after the '29 crash, the fed printed the largest amount of large bills ever, even to this day ($1000-10,000 bills ) .

Who was the recipient of that bail-out?

8 posted on 11/14/2008 8:41:11 AM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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“He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666” (Rev. 13:16-18).

“A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: ‘If ANYONE worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. This calls for patient endurance on the part of THE SAINTS who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus” (Rev. 14:9-12).

You must endure to the end to be saved (Matt. 10:22; Heb. 3:14; Rev. 2:10,11). The people who make the eternal mistake of receiving the mark and worshiping the beast and/or his image will be deceived by accompanying miraculous signs and wonders:

“But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur” (Rev. 19:20).

“And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed” (Rev 13:13-15).

“The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness” (2 Thess. 2:9-12).

Those who refuse to receive the mark of the beast and worship his image are referred to in the following passage. These are the same ones who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus:

“I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years” (Rev. 20:4-6).

Please notice, the “first resurrection” will not occur until the mark of the beast is made available! The first resurrection is for those who have done good and will rise to live, as opposed to those who have done evil and will rise to be condemned (Jn. 5:29).

Regarding “that day” or “our being gathered to him” (2 Thess. 2:1), the Bible says:

“Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction” (2 Thess. 2:3).

Those who remain faithful to the Lord Jesus will refuse this mark, but will be beheaded as a result. This same fate for the God fearing who endure to the end is also mentioned in the following passage with another possibility for “the saints”:

“He was given power to make war against THE SAINTS and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast — all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world. He who has an ear, let him hear. If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of THE SAINTS” (Rev. 13:7-10).

Dear reader, if you die in the Lord as a consequence of refusing the mark of the beast, please realize that you will immediately be in the presence of the Lord in “Paradise” (Lk. 23:43).

Regarding physical death for a Christian, Paul wrote:

“We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Cor. 5:8).

“For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far” (Phil. 1:21,23).

REGARDLESS WHAT HAPPENS, DO NOT TAKE THE MARK! There will be many who will accept it at this time. Great pressure will be on you also to conform to their example. Miracles from satanic power will deceive many into taking the mark. YOU MUST REMAIN TRUE TO GOD, EVEN IF YOU GET BEHEADED OR GO INTO CAPTIVITY AS A CONSEQUENCE. YOUR ETERNAL DESTINY HANGS IN THE BALANCE with this single act, if we are the last generation.

Pass this vital information on to other people with whom you are acquainted. If we are the last generation, this could be the most important message they will ever learn. It may make the difference in where they will spend all of eternity.

“They overcame him [the devil] by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death” (Rev. 12:11). “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matt. 10:28).


9 posted on 11/14/2008 8:44:11 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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“It is the collective effect of purposeful and amoral manipulation that seeks to centralize economic, political, technological and societal forces in order to accrue maximum profit and political power to global banks, global corporations and the elitists who run them.”

New World Order


10 posted on 11/14/2008 8:45:13 AM PST by griswold3
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British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and others in the European Union are advocating the creation of a global regulatory agency for financial oversight and "international transparency" for banking activities. He supports giving the IMF unprecedented authority for surveillance over transactions by borrowers and lenders.

Al-qaida's gonna have more banking privacy than we will.

11 posted on 11/14/2008 8:49:23 AM PST by rvoitier
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Yet Moran says that system "doesn't work in the long run."

The free economy may have its ups and downs, but in the log run, it will always win out over the planned economy. That is because the free economy reflects us, and like a living entity, it can respond more rapidly to our wants and needs. The planned economy reflect the desires of its planners, whose wants, needs, and desires may not match those who the planners are planning for...

13 posted on 11/14/2008 8:56:18 AM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a Constitution...)
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To: jazusamo

Never mind extra guns, I’m stocking up on food and water. :(


15 posted on 11/14/2008 9:05:47 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Stop feeding Leftist education systems. Don't let your kids go there.)
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To: jazusamo
Stick to cash transactions for as long as the Dollar is still worth something then barter. You should get your cash into hard mobile assets, things that you'll need and things that can be traded. Get out of the banking system to the extent that you can, leaving just enough to live on in the checking account. If all your money is in binary digits, you wont have any when this all goes to shit.

Live frugally and wait these parasites out. Remove your implicit sanction.

Think of it this way, even if this tide is turned back, you'll be ready for anything. Plan for the worst and live the best that you can in the meantime. Take you destiny into your own hands and it wont matter what these thieves and liars do.

18 posted on 11/14/2008 9:09:38 AM PST by tonyinv ($)
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20 posted on 11/14/2008 9:18:27 AM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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The problem is NOT with assuming that those who have wealth should keep it. The problem is the systemic corruption in our banking, financial, and political system, and the willingness of the past 14 years of Republicans (we took the house and senate in 94, and have had either the congress/senate or presidency until this year) to completely ignore it.

The republican party is corrupt, and has been an ole boy’s network. The populace is NOT just composed of greedy lazy leftists who want something for nothing (although there are plenty of those). They saw the looting and corruption in high place and wanted “change.” Unfortunately, they were too stupid to stop and consider what kind of “change” was needed, but they really did not have a good choice.

Consider the following

(the problem is).... the sytemic corruption in our markets and our political structures and our entire society. Dishonest markets will eventually collapse. The first example is the widespread practice of banks and IBs and hedgies of NAKED SHORT SELLING. Although it is illegal to counterfeit currency, counterfeiting EVERY OTHER TYPE OF FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE (or at least able to be counterfeited without legal consequences). We have brokers (Etrade) confessing to the SEC that they are “hopelessly short” (re: GVRP, a company with only 11 shareholders and 33 million shares..... with 1.3 billion short shares). Note that the SEC did not “discover” this at all. GVRP execs asked the SEC to investigate when they saw the avalanche of short sales. Well, the SEC “investigated.” They did not do beans. No one was even fined. We have come a long way folks from the days when Daniel Drew could tell a pleading Vanderbilt “he who sells what isn’t his’n, must buy it back or go to prison.” There is not ONE case of the SEC enforcing the three day rule on short sales with institutions. Not one. This is simply counterfeiting stock and selling it. There is no other term for it. It is rampant, wholesale, and done with every kind of financial instrument by big financial houses. If I had my way, I would execute these men for treason, because they are destroying the country. Even during the collapse of Fannie Mae, when the SEC tottered out like an anemic grandma and said “no short selling of these stocks” there was rampant naked short selling of Fannie stock going on. (note that I am NOT against legit shorts. Shorting legitimately is a great way to add true liquidity to the markets.)

There are FOUR brokerage houses/IBs who are short an entire YEAR’s silver production for the entire world. These guys have NO ability to ever cover the trades, and when silver rises (or gold) they simply engage in naked short selling and hammer the market back down. They can do this because the PM markets are so tiny compared to the other financials, and because the Hunt bros scared the hell out of the COMEX in 80. They are so worried about someone cornering the market that they have made the wholesale manipulation of the “paper” market for gold and silver completely corrupt. The CFTC is, if possible, a bigger joke than the SEC (it is now an arm of the SEC, which is appropriate). There are estimates are that over 70% of the warehouse receipts for “deliverable” gold and silver in the Comex warehouses are simply fraudulent. There is not the gold and silver there for “delivery” although you have some really cool looking receipts. We shall see what happens with the rumors swirling re: Dec silver delivery.

The above two examples, bad as they are, only hit the surface. This is the “regulated” side of the market. When you get into Credit Default Swaps the picture gets worse. In Theory, CDS are essentially insurance contracts on debt instruments, but actually they have morphed into side bets by financial institutions WITH NO REGULATORY GUIDELINES. They are completely private, with information divulged being totally voluntary. Only 10% of the participating institutions have reported and that 10% has reported about 58 TRILLION dollars of financial instruments out there that NO ONE has an idea if they are obligations or how serious the obligations are. AIG is starting to get a clue about theirs, I have been told. All they really know is how much money they got for issuing them. Think “State Farm facing Hurrican Katrina” but State Farm only has $38.17 in the bank to pay the claims. Or think of an 17 year old in his mom’s basement writing naked S&P puts with no margin requirements. This uncertainty is the reason for the credit seize up. The fed printing presses have plenty of hot money, but the banks are hoovering it up and sitting on it. When Goldman asks Citi for a loan Citi thinks “how much toxic CDS are you sitting on?” Banks don’t trust each other, which is, of course, the result of nontransparency and dishonesty.

Now, the HONEST solution here would be to force the market to settle, to demand transparency in financial dealings, and have demands that people be able to produce PROOF that they can sell what they say they have, whether it is a stock, a bar of gold, or the ability to pay out on an insurance contract on a debt instrument (this requires mandated reserves OR transparent dealings so that the the market will “discount”the contract like a bond from a company that may not be able to pay. Either would be honest). Of course, the market is so unbelievably corrupted that this would lead to a massive market meltdown. So we throw money at it, hoping that “something” will change things. The politicians and the regulators are all corrupted by the flow of money here. In fact, when Paulson was head of Goldman Sachs, his very company was guilty of what they charged Ken Lay (Enron) with. One side of the company was busy pushing stock that the company itself was busy shorting. And lets not even begin talking about Waxman, Barney Frank, Dodd and that bunch. Criminals are running the whole show, people.

To quote an old book “God is not mocked.” Run a crooked game, and the market walks away, once they catch on to what is going on. The financial institutions in this country are killing the goose laying the golden eggs. When a merchant gets a reputation for “dishonest scales” (the ancient version of lying to someone about how much they were buying from you), the market goes elsewhere. The USA no longer has honest markets, and the world knows it. The only real question remaining here is how fast the crowds will exit and whether we will ever demand honesty and justice.

We are seeing the wholesale looting of an entire nation, with unbelievable amounts of wealth being transferred to the pockets of a very few criminals (over ten TRILLION dollars went to private overseas accounts so far). If the American people ever really wake up to what is happening, I truly believe we may see a second violent American revolution. (My God, I can’t believe myself. I am becoming a nutjob! )

My predictions:
1) The dollar will cease to be the world currency. I look for that within the next 5-10 years
2) The world financial centers will move to Tokyo and Shanghai and Singapore and Bombay. No one trusts us anymore, with good reason.
3) When the money is all sucked up into the banks and the CEO’s have all fled to Aruba, the banks and financial institutions will fail anyway *Poof* money gone.
4) We will continue to print money like a fanatic and when the inflation gets into the system (may take a year or two), we will see systemic inflation like Argentina, Brazil, or even Zimbabwe, with the total collapse of the dollar. Ain’t no Paul Volckers left.
5) This last one is a hope, not a prediction. I hope we have a full blown social and political crisis, leading to a second revolution (the non-violent kind are always best!). The deposition of Marcos in the Philippines and the Orange revolution, Polish revolt, and Czech revolution come to mind as happy illustrations. We need to sweep out the phenomenally corrupt ruling class and return to the principles of the Constitution. We are no longer the USA that many of you think we are.

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst.


23 posted on 11/14/2008 9:29:42 AM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
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bump


25 posted on 11/14/2008 9:51:00 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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Ultimately this is all a consequence of the infantilization of the American public. Unless you happen to listen to Neil Cavuto or Greta van Susteren on Fox, you'll hardly ever hear anyone question the assumption that there exist grown ups who can fix anything.

It is a child's perception of how the world works: no matter what bad thing happens, Mommy or Daddy or some other grown-up will make it go away.

By the time humans reach adulthood, they should have learned that "sometimes the bear eats you," and there's not a damned thing you can do about it... except plow ahead straight through it.

But now, through the miracle of Idiots on Television™, almost an entire nation of adult humans believes that a bunch of domeheads wearing suits, meeting in Washington or someplace, can repeal the business cycle, manage the climate of a Class-M planet, decide how much risk is "too much" for everyone everywhere, and so on.

It is akin to what model railroaders call "giant hand action." Any time a train goes off the tracks and wrecks things, the little model humans see a giant hand come out of the sky to clean up the mess and put everything right. In the real world, giant hands don't exist. But you'd never know that listening to "the news." On the news, "leaders" meet to craft "solutions" to the problems of humanity. That is their job: to solve problems for other people. To wipe the ketchup off the faces of the infantilized adults who now populate our country and who expect The President of the United States to fill their gas tanks and pay their mortgages.

Think it's the Democrats? Listen to this nonsense from House Minority Leader John Boehner:

"Spending billions of additional federal tax dollars with no promises to reform the root causes crippling auto makers’ competitiveness around the world is neither fair to taxpayers nor sound fiscal policy."

Boehner asked why Democrats are willing to provide money without insisting the car makers produce a "credible plan to strengthen their financial health."

For grins, and to give Boehner a fair chance, let us stipulate that The Big Three U.S. automakers have no plan to reform the root causes of their uncompetitiveness. They are going into the tank on autopilot, because their managements do not know what the "root causes" are, and in any case haven't a clue what to do about them.

OK, now ask yourself this: do you believe that politicians like Boehner know what the root causes are, or would know a viable plan to "reform" them if one was pushed under their nose? For extra credit, do you believe that GM and Ford have been successfully financing their operations for almost a hundred years — essentially selling stock, bonds, and commercial paper to some pretty smart cookies — without "credible plans" concerning their financial health? What, does Boehner think that he'll know The Credible Plan when he sees it, but that all the other people out there — some of whom have been working the financial markets for all their adult lives and have seen every trick in the book — are too dumb to know what he knows about the operation of huge, worldwide manufacturing concerns?

Wait... it gets worse. These words from Boehner appear on the Wall Street Journal’s Washington Wire. If you can't trust the Wall Street Journal to point out that this is a politician spewing hot air that he can't possibly understand, and that anyone who takes him seriously is being very foolish, who will say it? Me, apparently, and Neil Cavuto, and a handful of others. But everyone else absorbs this crap and ends up believing that the politicians know all, see all, and can fix all. And now people even vote that way, which means, sadly, that we're hosed. Because even those who do remember history are doomed to be surrounded by those who don't.


27 posted on 11/14/2008 10:04:43 AM PST by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com)
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ping


29 posted on 11/14/2008 10:13:32 AM PST by PjhCPA (stop flapping your gums and DO SOMETHING)
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To: jazusamo

He who controls the money, controls.

.....unless the people have guns.....oh well...


35 posted on 11/14/2008 8:29:11 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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bookmark


37 posted on 11/14/2008 11:56:19 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for McCain /Palin, Pray for our nation.)
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We have a few things that will probably quit working soon like a 20 year plus tv, 13 year old microwave. I have some fly reels over 10 years of age and some fly lines that are a few years old.

So I will probably be negotiating to purchase these items before the year ends.

Pre and Post Christmas sales should be great for our side.

So I think that we will buy some off those items before after Christmas.

In fact any real good buys will be probably bought this month so the taxes don’t come in January 2009.

That way Zero, Pelosi, Reid and Barney Frank will not benefit from those purchases.

Check my tagline.

PS: Tired of Christophobic Gay Deviants ganging up on us. Knee cap their corporate donors funding the repeal of Prop 8 by not dealing with them:

We can boycott the corporations funding the repeal of Prop 8.

There are many corporations funding the repeal of Prop 8.

This link takes us right to the corporate sponsor page to repel Prop 8:
http://laglc.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=SU_CORPORATIONS

Boycotts can work for our side too!


38 posted on 11/15/2008 10:53:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Buy what we need before Zero is sworn in. See how he and Pelosi thrive w/o our buying $'s)
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