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HEY GOP -- GET CONSERVATIVE OR GET LOST
boblonsberry.com ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 11/14/2008 5:36:26 AM PST by shortstop

Frankly, I don’t give a damn about the Republican Party.

When a pair of shoes is worn out, I throw them away. If I can resole them, I do. If I can’t, they go in the trash. I don’t look back, I don’t mourn them, I just dump them.

Same for my political party.

If it helps me serve my country, fine. If it doesn’t, to hell with it.

It’s as simple as that.

And as the Republican Party lies in tatters on the ground, blown to smithereens by a philosophical suicide, it is no surprise that those who claim the right to put the pieces back together again are the very ones who pulled the trigger in the first place.

The Republican Party is dead because its body finally caught up to its soul.

The Republican Party got cancer and died. Its once-healthy heart was infiltrated and overwhelmed by the greed and lust for power of soulless people in positions of great authority. As it made compounding compromises with virtue it went from prom queen to town slut in record time.

It got lost in the woods of principle because it purposefully smashed its compass on a rock.

And the various plans for reconstructing the Republican Party seem written by the same pimps and pirates who destroyed it. The people who made the Republican Party stayed home on Election Day and the infiltrators who put it on the garbage heap claim now to be its caretakers and stewards.

And the Frankenstein of a party they want to cobble back together is nothing more than an impotent junior-Democrat party, not quite as socialist and not quite as oppressive and not quite as anti-American – but ultimately altogether as destructive of personal liberty and national character. They want a difference of degree, not of principle. They want to fight over the crumbs of power that fall from the jaws of an all-controlling government.

So to hell with them.

Either the Republican Party comes back closer to its roots, or it comes back without my vote or the votes of tens of millions of Americans just like me.

Americans who believe in individual liberty and self-reliance. Who’ve actually read the Constitution and know why this country was founded and how it was made great. Americans who are ashamed of the welfare line and resentful of Mr. Obama’s redistributive taxes. Americans who’ve sent generations of sons to defend this country and who today carry the burden of financially supporting it.

Americans who know that the government isn’t their mommy or their daddy and that freedom is more important than life, and immeasurably more important than a tax-rebate check or government health care.

The Republican Party can either stand for smaller government, lower taxes and freer people, or it can rot in hell.

The liberals on TV and the liberals in the Republican Party can laugh at that all they want. They can look down their noses at the rest of us all they wish, and they’ll keep getting more of what they got on Election Day. Real Republicans didn’t lose this election – they didn’t play this election. They stayed home, or they held their noses and voted for a man they admired but didn’t agree with.

Real Republicans gave their money and showed their support during the primary. By the time the general election came around, there was too much piss in the milkshake for them to have much of an appetite.

And to fix that the smart people want to unzip their pants and top it off.

Like I said, I don’t give a damn about the Republican Party. My family has been Republican since the election of 1860. We go back to Lincoln. But it’s never been about partisanship, it’s always been about patriotism. I’ve been a Republican because the Republican Party was good for America, because the Republican Party was a means to an end – a tool to defend the principles of American liberty.

And the Republican Party can either get back to that, or it can lie mummified in the pages of the history books.

It can continue its process of morphing into the me-too party, the perpetual lesser of two evils, or it can return to its roots – roots that are unashamedly conservative, that are unashamedly American, that are deep in the individualism and exceptionalism and liberty that made this country.

Or, like I said, it can go to hell.

I’ve scraped worse stuff off my shoes before, I won’t shed any tears over the death of this party. The day it sold out my values and my country – on everything from the deficit to illegal immigration to free pills for grama – it lost me. We gave the Republican Party the presidency and both houses of Congress, and it gave us the finger.

And now it wants a double dose of the poison that killed it. It wants to reconstruct itself as the antithesis of what it used to be. It wants to reject conservatives and conservatism. So let it. If the Republican bosses want to join the Democrats in making toilet paper of the Constitution, let them.

We don’t need them, but sometime and somewhere they’re going to need us.

And that’s when we’ll give them the finger.

Like we did last Tuesday.


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To: econjack

“I could have run a better campaign and I know nothing about such work. “

I have. I lost by 118 votes in the city of York, PA for City Controller. I ran as an unabashed conservative Republican in a city of 41,000, with 4,000 registered Republicans, and 12,000 registered Democrats.

I ran a campaign based an a few simple principles and themes - that my opponent was a part of the cabal that spent the city into near bankruptcy, raised taxes in a city with a per capita annual income of $19,000, and refuses to do anything about crime, that my opponent was unqualified, and that I was more qualified, and would question every city expenditure.

I gave the voters a reason to vote for me, and a reason to vote against my opponent, whose name I never mentioned. Republicans did neither very well these last two national elections.


121 posted on 11/14/2008 10:02:06 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: shortstop

I’d like to suggest four necessary conditions for conservatives to regain control of the GOP and eliminate the destructive RINO domination.

1. GOP registration required to vote for GOP candidates so that crossover voters do not select our candidates in primaries.
2. Move primaries up in several large conservative states so that RINO-infested northeastern states no longer chose our presidential candidate. (I heard you mention this on your show yesterday, which was gratifying since I wrote about it a couple days after the election.)
3. Allot delegates to the GOP convention from each state based on the number of registered GOP voters in that state. Just because a state has a big population does not get you more delegates to the GOP convention- Dark blue states should not choose our candidate.
4. Divide the delegates from a state between candidates based on primary results- No more winner-take-all primaries.


122 posted on 11/14/2008 10:06:33 AM PST by Rockitz (NObama 2008- Strange we ain't believin')
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe
The pac you envision might obtain verbal assent, but it won’t be an assent of the heart.

I realize that, but as it is now I end up having to support a candidate that I have to hope keeps his conservative views. At least by making all contributions through a PAC I can have the power of the purse concerning future elections of that individual.

As all the pundits on TV are saying about Obama, now that he’s in he gets to choose a more moderate or more radical liberalism. He was financed by the radical liberals, and the groundwork is being laid to tell them to take a hike.

Obama may be able to tell them to take a hike, but the House members who were elected with their dollars won't.

123 posted on 11/14/2008 10:06:42 AM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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To: Schnucki

“There is only a one party system “

It’s called the government. It is its own political party and special interest group. It is only interested in accumulating power at the expense of the people. Some people in government actually have convinced themselves that it is for the good of the people they are screwing.


124 posted on 11/14/2008 10:07:15 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Designer
Just exactly what do you think a PAC is, if it isn't a political party?

By focusing their dollars through moveon.org the radical left has taken over the RATS.

Conservatives only get lip service from the GOP because we send our dollars to them. If we control the dollars we will have a greater impact on the GOP.

125 posted on 11/14/2008 10:10:20 AM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“I agree with you but I’m also going to scold you. Aren’t you a Methodist minister? Methodists are also for the exteminating of innocent life. How do you reconcile that?”

I’m a Jew, and most Jews, including most Rabbis, are pro abortion. How do I reconcile that? Because it is my belief that Judaism, as opposed to ethnic Jews, is pro life. Our standard toast is “L’Chaim.” “to Life”

L’Chaim brothers and sisters.


126 posted on 11/14/2008 10:10:54 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: caddie
Sure, reform of the GOP is what it takes, and it is feasible.

I'm all for it, but I want to see a mechanism forcing them to support conservative beliefs rather than just the same old lip service.

127 posted on 11/14/2008 10:12:42 AM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

What about us “clowns” who voiced our opinions, debated the RINO problem at length, but in the end voted reluctantly for McCain (and often more enthusiastically for Palin) because of the depth of depravity on the other ticket?

Now, I suppose, we are supposed to quietly fall in line to fall on the moderate sword, further liberalizing the Republican party?

The “jokes” aren’t coming from our side in this debate, FRiend. The moderate faction was warned ahead of time, and yet they now decry they didn’t know... They knew, but they don’t care.


128 posted on 11/14/2008 10:16:00 AM PST by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: wmfights

Maybe not easier, but, that is what needs to be done.


129 posted on 11/14/2008 10:16:23 AM PST by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: wmfights; xzins
I had made a similar proposal on the day of the election HERE

I think we need to consider starting a Reagan Republican Party or a Reagan Republican Trust Fund, where all of us conservatives can stop contributing any money to any Republican candidate or the Republican party and instead send our money to this trust fund. In order for any candidate to get their hands on any of that money, they would need to sign a pledge that they would only vote consistently with the principles of the Reagan Republican Trust Fund platform. Failure to follow those principles would result in the candidate being permanently prohibited from receiving any of the trust fund's money in the future.

My proposal for the Reagan Republican Trust Fund Pledge:

1) Lower taxes;
2) Limited Government;
3) Strong National Defense;
4) Secure Borders;
5) Protection of the unborn;
6) Individual 2nd Amendment rights;
7) Judicial Restraint;
8) Individual Liberty with Individual Responsibility;
9) Nationalism;
10) Patriotism - America First.

130 posted on 11/14/2008 10:28:46 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins
I think we need to consider starting a Reagan Republican Party or a Reagan Republican Trust Fund,...

Sign me up. All we need to do is find an existing PAC organization that holds to this and see if we can get it set up.

Suggestions anyone?

131 posted on 11/14/2008 10:35:09 AM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Please take a look at the Constitution Party. The last two weeks, I bounced around looking for a new party.... then, my wife says, “I support the Constitution Party” Next, two scout leaders during a camp-out talk up the virtues of “The Constitution Party”. Yesterday, I saw my first “I vote Constitution” bumber sticker! The fog and mourning I have had since the election lifted and I felt good walking around SAM’s Club. We all can form up on this new mission. Leave the liberals and “moderates” the stinking dead elephant. Let’s form up to protect the beautiful “U.S. Constitution”. The left (except Barry Obama and “Constitution is a flawed document” and “negative rights”) wouldn’t dare attack it without looking like the socialist/communist they really are. It is a great Brand that represents freedom.

That's probably the party I will be looking into. It's come up a lot here on FR and elsewhere.
132 posted on 11/14/2008 10:38:33 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: All

What we need to do is rebuild the GOP. We should bring true conservatives and all of these GOP splinter/protest parties together and see if we can assemble a super GOP. Instead of always bickering about each others ideals, maybe we can find enough people who have common conservative values to do this. I know that there would be lot of idealogical differences in a gathering such as this, but, I think that we could find enough in common to start to refresh the GOP with new blood. There are a lot of people out there that are sick of the wishy-washy politicians we have now. The GOP has lost a lot of good people to some of these groups because of this. If we had some type of convention that included everyone that is not a democrat we could find some real firebrands that feel strongly enough about their beliefs that they would take a real stand against the liberals. That’s what our people want and our country needs. Maybe something like this can start out regionally and build on that.


133 posted on 11/14/2008 10:39:36 AM PST by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: MortMan

Not clowns at all - people like you are fighting the good fight. Better than ‘good’ fight really - it’s what it’s ALL about.


134 posted on 11/14/2008 10:50:28 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: unixfox

“Reach out” translation: More welfare bailouts, mortgage bailouts, and amnesty for 20 million illegals.....

Who will vote ‘rat for life, ensuring that the GOP will NEVER come back.

They don’t call it “the stupid party” for nothing.


135 posted on 11/14/2008 10:52:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

A good many of the folks now talking about whether the R party has left us are in the same situation. I am seriously considering whether or not I truly belong in the Republican party or not.

Because I am a conservative FIRST, and a republican by convenience.


136 posted on 11/14/2008 11:05:39 AM PST by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: slnk_rules
Responses like yours just add fuel to the fire of people assuming all conservatives are racists.

Sorry I'm not P.C. but that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

Black people are not stupid. They have been LIED to.
Hispanics are not stupid. They have been LIED to.

White people are not stupid. They have been LIED to.

137 posted on 11/14/2008 11:08:15 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: NellieMae

You should read the original post, it addresses all of your points. Trying to rebuild the GOP just means that the same people running the show now are still going to be running the show in a rebuilt party.


138 posted on 11/14/2008 11:41:33 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: MortMan
A good many of the folks now talking about whether the R party has left us are in the same situation. I am seriously considering whether or not I truly belong in the Republican party or not.

I've heard it said that conservatives are the real RINOs these days. There was a good article about this, that said that many of the members of the GOP nowadays are of the Rockefeller/Country Club persuasion, that think George W. Bush was a conservative, etc.
139 posted on 11/14/2008 11:43:08 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: unixfox

In order to remain viable, the GOP must win over minority voters. Demographics trends won’t allow anything else. White America will never have the numbers to win an election by themselves again. Accept it and move on.


140 posted on 11/14/2008 11:51:15 AM PST by robert david (The Obamanation is upon us. God help America.)
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