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America the Illiterate (a liberal gets it mostly right)
Truthdig ^ | 10 Nov 2008 | Chris Hedges

Posted on 11/13/2008 6:32:23 AM PST by Notary Sojac

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Given the source, I'm not surprised that the author fails to mention the role of the publik skool system in bringing this about. And only conservative fantasies are mentioned, never liberal ones. Nonetheless, his read of the facts on the ground is quite correct.
1 posted on 11/13/2008 6:32:24 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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To: Notary Sojac

I can’t disagree with a lot of it. Not being able to read is something I simply cannot fathom.


2 posted on 11/13/2008 6:40:15 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, I'm A Racist and Proud Of It!)
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To: Notary Sojac

He is suffering from up is down, in is out syndrome. Liberals exist because of the death of Liberal Arts in western civ. Liberal Arts being the training of the mind in rational thought through logic and symbols, and the ability to communicate that thought. We are intellectually neuterd, so Change worked.


3 posted on 11/13/2008 6:47:03 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Notary Sojac

This author knows the problems, but fails to see their source- THIS is the leftist blind-spot.
The left has spent the past 70 years destroying generations of school children and turning them into stupid adults for the express purpose of building and maintaining its own power base.

It would appear that this author is one of the victims, and is just beginning to see the dangers HE faces, as well.


4 posted on 11/13/2008 6:48:00 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: MarineBrat

Ping for when I get back home...


5 posted on 11/13/2008 6:48:04 AM PST by MarineBrat (You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it.)
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To: Notary Sojac

Boils down to ; I am responsible for my own actions and beliefs.


6 posted on 11/13/2008 6:49:01 AM PST by Uncle George
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To: Niuhuru
And it's true on both sides of the aisle.

Look at the conservative authors I read in my teens and twenties: Russell Kirk, Wilmoore Kendall, Leo Strauss, Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek.

Who's filling their shoes today?? Maybe Thomas Sowell - maybe - but otherwise it's a pretty steep intellectual drop to the likes of Hannity, Coulter, etc.

7 posted on 11/13/2008 6:50:30 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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Actually he did indict the public school system as a cause of this, and an effect, in that the ignoramuses’ children are trapped in the public school system, perpetuating the cycle.

It’s clear that America has been dumbed down to a third world country already. Now we get the reckoning that comes with it.


8 posted on 11/13/2008 6:52:47 AM PST by henkster (Lawyers will lead the Marxist revolution, armed with subpoenas...)
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To: Notary Sojac

I agree with the article for the most part, in fact, I was just having a conversation with someone the other day, stating some of these very same sentiments. The author lost me though with the following:

“Huge segments of our population, especially those who live in the embrace of the Christian right and the consumer culture, are completely unmoored from reality. They lack the capacity to search for truth and cope rationally with our mounting social and economic ills. They seek clarity, entertainment and order. They are willing to use force to impose this clarity on others, especially those who do not speak as they speak and think as they think. All the traditional tools of democracies, including dispassionate scientific and historical truth, facts, news and rational debate, are useless instruments in a world that lacks the capacity to use them.”

It seems the author sees the Christian right as the epitomy of the unwashed, idiotic masses. The author is revealing his/her personal bias with the above and it ruins the argument by substituting opinion for objectivity. The author plays into the whole stereotype of the elite liberal who sees anyone who doesn’t have his particular world view as a knuckle dragging, drooling, quasi-violent fool. The lack of self awareness on the part of the author is actually pretty amusing.


9 posted on 11/13/2008 6:53:15 AM PST by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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I have agrued for a number of years that humans are in the process of differentiating into two species. The authors two classes of literacy are just the first stage. There will be a small population of very cerebral, low fecundity homo sapiens super and a large population of low intellect, high fecundity homo non-sapiens. Not Eloi and Morlocks as Wells envisioned -- more like his Moon inhabitants, perhaps.
10 posted on 11/13/2008 6:54:47 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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They seek clarity, entertainment and order. They are willing to use force to impose this clarity on others, especially those who do not speak as they speak and think as they think.

A good example would be the opponents of Proposition 8.

11 posted on 11/13/2008 6:55:29 AM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: Notary Sojac

bump and wow


12 posted on 11/13/2008 6:56:27 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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from the article: “They still cannot protect their children from dysfunctional public schools.”


13 posted on 11/13/2008 6:57:05 AM PST by tje
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To: Notary Sojac

Of course none of the people he’s writing about would be able read his article much less comprehend it. His assertion about the Christian Right is wrong and it would have made the article much better if he had left it out.


14 posted on 11/13/2008 6:57:10 AM PST by BubbaBasher (www.HypocriteLibs.org - Tracking the Slandering Liars in the MSM)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Brain/hand coordination problems this AM: “agrued” -> “argued”, of course.


15 posted on 11/13/2008 6:57:56 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: Notary Sojac

Hannity and Rush don’t write. They talk.

I’ve long told my kids to read, with the admonition that if you don’t read, you can’t think. And despite that, they do not read nearly enough. I devour two dozen books per year, almost exclusively history. Thanks to that, I don’t suffer from the amnesia that afflicts so many Americans. And unfortunately, ignorance is bliss. I know exactly who and what 0bama is, and where he will take this country. We are not going to like it.


16 posted on 11/13/2008 6:59:29 AM PST by henkster (Lawyers will lead the Marxist revolution, armed with subpoenas...)
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To: Notary Sojac

The author is correct insofar as the ability to read opens up the path to more data, but is wrong in the assumption that it makes the processing of that data any more logical. The automatic assumption that readers are able to think, reason and discern manure from shinola is simply not the case. The written word provides more opportunity for obsfucation and meaningless filler than visual.

Which is more factual; a menu item describing chopped sirloin, with the chef’s special blending of creams, presented on a fluffy sesame roll, or an actual photo of a big mac?


17 posted on 11/13/2008 7:01:50 AM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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Apart from the third paragraph from the end, which is a gratuitous swipe at religious-minded conservatives, this is a very good article.

I think the author is correct in his observations but wrong in his conclusion, that it's the fault of religious faith and the consumer-culture.

18 posted on 11/13/2008 7:03:08 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Cailleach; TR Jeffersonian

ping


19 posted on 11/13/2008 7:04:55 AM PST by kalee
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To: Niuhuru
Allow me to explain how I couldn't read till third grade. The public school system was so screwed up, there was no fixxing it. My mother spent a summer with me teaching me to read. According to the what the school said, my reading level went from second grade reading failure, to junior high level reading in one summer.

With the love and wisdom of my parents, managed to be one of the few, who received home schooling, and public education (any wonder Ma-Ha Rush calls them scruels). America needs to wake up to the fact that schools indoctrinate, they don't teach!
20 posted on 11/13/2008 7:10:29 AM PST by Issaquahking (Obama won the election, and America lost!)
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