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Second Eligibility Related Action Weathers Procedural Roadblocks (Trouble for Obama, the Kenyan?)
America's Right ^ | 11/12/08 | Jeff Schreiber

Posted on 11/12/2008 4:03:54 AM PST by solfour

After being denied, dismissed and otherwise turned back in the Superior Court of New Jersey, Appellate Division, and the New Jersey Supreme Court, retired lawyer and professional poker player Leo Donofrio is taking the ultimate gamble and bringing his eligibility-related action before the United States Supreme Court. Donofrio, however, alleges that he has already been dealt a poor hand.

THE CASE

In his action filed against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells, Donofrio contends that Wells has not fulfilled her duty as Secretary of State to independently verify the constitutional qualifications of the presidential candidates before placing them on the ballot in the Garden State. Specifically, Donofrio notes in the brief accompanying the Application for Emergency Stay filed with the U.S. Supreme Court, Wells was required by N.J.S.A. 19:13-22 to make a statement in which she certifies and signs off on the names of the candidates on the ballots. The statute, in relevant part with emphasis added:

The Secretary of State, not later than eighty-six days before any election whereat any candidates nominated in any direct petition or primary certificate of nomination or State convention certificate filed with him are to be voted for, shall make and certify, under his hand and seal of office, and forward to the clerks of the several counties of the State a statement of all such candidates for whom the voters within such county may be by law entitled to vote at such election.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; certifigate; donofrio; elibility; obama
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To: mccainvoterinobamaville

Not according to the Constitution, which is the Supreme Law of the Land.


161 posted on 11/12/2008 6:02:52 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Indian_Fighter_Kite

If I went overseas with my pregnant wife and she delivered my child in Hong Kong, I most likely will announce the birth in my hometown where my family and friends live back in the US. A newspaper announcement is not legal proof that you were born in the newspaper’s hometown. Birth certificat or a state copy of the birth certificate is the best document. BO has refused to do this and rather spend money on expensive lawyers to fight it. Strange reaction on his part, unless it is a campaign trap for McCain. Now the election is over, let us see how BO reacts to these suits.


162 posted on 11/12/2008 6:31:24 PM PST by Fee
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To: blu
Sorry, if (LOL) BHO is found fraudulent, Biden becomes the pres. Then, Biden selects his VP, with Congressional approval.

Not until they are sworn in. This was addressed on another thread.

U.S. Constitution, Amendment 20, Section 3:

Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

163 posted on 11/12/2008 7:06:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: cripplecreek

“Precedent is my biggest concern. Obviously some states aren’t concerned that Calero could never hold office yet let him remain on their ballots. If we allow Obama to hold office and only later find that he was ineligible, it’s another dangerous precedent.

I think we’re being set up. It sure looks to me like Jenny Granholm is being groomed for a future run at the white house. She was Biden’s sparring partner for debate and she’s on Obama’s economic transition team. It’s how I would do it if I wanted to get people used to the idea of foreign born presidents.

Get one on the ballot, get one elected, then openly put one from an innocuous nation like Canada on the ballot.”

I missed your post earlier. You hit the nail on the head and what I’ve been trying to get people to understand. If we allow Obama to become president without him showing his birth certificate and it turns out he was never eligible to qualify to become president....we are setting a precedent that will never die! The Constitution will mean nothing anymore...nothing!


164 posted on 11/12/2008 7:21:00 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: Calpernia

bookmarking Calero


165 posted on 11/12/2008 7:22:14 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: patriot08

BUMP!!!


166 posted on 11/12/2008 7:23:27 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: MilspecRob; Calpernia
Calpernia: >>>“Obama’s father was a Kenyan national and so, regardless of where Obama was born, he was ‘at birth’ subject to the laws of both the United States and of Kenya and as such he is not a natural born citizen of the United States and cannot hold the office of president.”<<< This is interesting.

MilspecRob;But false

Actually it's not false. Obama admitted dual citizenship on his website but claims his Kenyan citizenship expired Aug. 4, 1982

167 posted on 11/12/2008 8:00:13 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Good evening bump


168 posted on 11/12/2008 10:34:01 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: solfour

Ping regarding Obama’s Vault Copy of Birth Certificate.

Recall he went to see his White Folk Grandmother with his lawyers in tow right before she died. He got her safety deposit box key and removed all contents that would infer he was adopted in Indonesia and never changed his name legally to Obama. And is still an Indonesian Citizen.

But who cares? He always wanted to be a President.


169 posted on 11/12/2008 10:35:55 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Psalm 66:7b "He watches every movement of the nations. Rebels will not be able to oppose Him.")
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To: solfour

I’d settle for President Clinton if the USSC finds that Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be president, although I don’t know how such a revelation would actually change things.


170 posted on 11/12/2008 10:41:01 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: tomnbeverly
My opinion it is not about his American birth there is something else on the BC that would slighlty damage his credibility.... maybe it states relgion is Muslim, Maybe it lists Race as Caucasion, maybe Obama Senior is not his real father.

I think that it says his name is Barry Dunham Soetoro (Americanized to Sotoro) and that he is still considered an Indonesian Citizen. His adopted father is his legal father and his Obama Senior father is nothing but a sperm donor.

I won't accept him as legal President until I SEE proof. And I'm not sure that Gov Lindle actually had to view the document to seal it. But I do think she was wrong to seal it. Sealing it just makes it more questionable.

171 posted on 11/12/2008 10:43:13 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Psalm 66:7b "He watches every movement of the nations. Rebels will not be able to oppose Him.")
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To: HighlyOpinionated
Think with his mother's promiscuity that only DNA testing can determine his biological mother. My questions has only been what did BHO get for marrying her? Bet it wasn't two cows and a dozen chickens.
172 posted on 11/12/2008 10:46:31 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: deport; All

Does anyone know if Obama’s sister’s Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth shows that she was born in Hawaii, because it was my understanding that she admitted to having been born in Indonesia?


173 posted on 11/13/2008 8:36:57 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: Flamenco Lady; Calpernia

I have no knowledge of her COLB. I’ll ping Calpernia as she may have some info or remember seeing something on it?


174 posted on 11/14/2008 6:13:08 AM PST by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: Flamenco Lady; deport; Polarik

I believe it was TechDude that introduced to all of us Maya’s COLB.

TechDude was a plant to discredite our freeper Polarik. Therefore, I would just put Maya’s COLB up on a shelf someplace until it is independently verified that Maya’s COLB was real.


175 posted on 11/14/2008 6:16:10 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
TechDude was a plant to discredite our freeper Polarik. Therefore, I would just put Maya’s COLB up on a shelf someplace until it is independently verified that Maya’s COLB was real.

Thanks for the clarification, Calpernia. Exactly whose COLB was used for the forgery is irrelevant, because the forger worked from a "not-so-hit" image copy of one, and not from the actual paper COLB.

IMHO, I seriously doubt that this image copy was scanned from Maya's COLB.

First of all, the Obama COLB image was "Frankensteined" from more than one cOLB image. As I mentioned previously, the border was constructed separately from a 2007 COLB. If Maya had a real 2007 cOLB, then all that she would have contributed was an image from which the only border was copied and pasted (most likely because the rest of the image was not usable or suitable for copying.

176 posted on 11/14/2008 8:11:12 AM PST by Polarik
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To: solfour

Don’t use the word ‘sure’ ... if the challenges are dismissed on ‘no standing to challenge’ then there will be no standing upon which to challenge the illiegitimate president or any of his illicit activities such as falsely swearing or violation of oaths. The Constitution means nothing to Barack Obama. Get ready for power to be exhibited in all the rawest ways.


177 posted on 11/14/2008 8:22:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: solfour
Look up the definition of 'extortion' 'cause Obama and his goons will be doing plenty MORE of it.
178 posted on 11/14/2008 8:24:34 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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[HINT: extorting = to obtain from a person by force, intimidation, or undue or illegal power ]


179 posted on 11/14/2008 8:26:54 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

My point is this. Berg’s suit got dismissed because he didn’t meet one of the standard tests for who has standing. His injury was too vague and tenuous, etc. When Obama signs a tax increase into law, for example, that is no longer going to be a problem. Millions of people will have been very clearly damaged by an act of dubious constitutionality because Obama is ineligible to sign it.


180 posted on 11/14/2008 8:29:34 AM PST by solfour
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