Does anyone know if a state controlled militia is legal under the constitution without succession? This might off set this farce of a CDF.
I know the second Amendment allows this militia to be armed. Could a state use state funds and donations to fund a State Militia controlled by the Governor? (National Guard is fed funded and fed controlled)
If Obombus goes through with this Obombanation, maybe some brave congress critters could get an exception to this forced servitude if one is already a member of a "State CDF".
If a fed tells me my kids are being taken away to join a federal training camp, I'm afraid they will not go peacefully.
In Germany, the civilian defense force started out as Hitler’s Brown Shirts and became the Gestapo and the SS.
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives weve set. Weve got to have a civilian national security force thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
And what color shirts will they wear?
Lenin said this about socialism: "The goal of socialism is communism."
Do you mean secession, as in seceding from the Union? Just wondering, because "succession" doesn't feel like the right word here. Yeah, I know it's nitpicking.
The South Carolina State Guard is a state malitia controlled by the govoner of the state of sc
I’ve been calling it “Obama’s private army.”
This is my thought on Obama’s idea of Brown Shirts for America.
Unlike the German Military, the American Military will not take kindly to these people. I work closely with many current military people and I do not see them sitting idlely by and allowing America to be taken over by thugs.
Beyond that, we the people of America are far better armed then the German people were and I do not see us allowing Brown Shirts to operate in the same manner as did the german peoples.
“I know the second Amendment allows this militia to be armed.”
WRONG!!! The Second Amendment doesn’t “allow” anything: It clearly states that the right to keep and bear arms (a pre-existing, God-given right, just as life itself) shall not be infringed. The Second Amendment is a reminder and a warning to the government that it CANNOT infringe on the right that the people already have.
Yup, right here: State Guard Association of the United States.
There are 27 volunteer State Guard/Militia/Reservists (different terms for different states) units in 24 States under the direct control of each State Governor. They are not affiliated with the National Guard and therefore cannot be called into service by the President.
They mostly consist of a bunch of ole-timer Veterans, much like the Coast Guard Auxiliary. However, unlike the CG Auxiliary, they are not Congressionally sanctioned. They are strictly State authorized.
Most people don't know about them. And although they may be a bunch of "geezers", they have a formal chain-of-command, regulations, and uniforms (self bought), and can be mobilized by their own State's authority.
So yes, there ARE recognized Militias. Not to mention that the US Code stipulates that any male between the ages of 18 and 40 (IIRC) are part of the Militia (Google US Code +Militia). Think about how many US citizens are subject to the Militia Code that could legally fight the military if there were cause.
recall the 2 goons with clubs outside the Philly polling station? that’s the OCDF
A civilian force;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
His prototype?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) in the former Confederate states.
The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act.
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If he does this, there will be armed revolution and blood will run in the city streets.
Has the Constitution ever been anything more than a minor annoyance to these people? I’ve long worried that it will have to be bloodied to be saved. Even more now.
Re: A Civil Defense Force
We have this now. It’s called CCW.
Anything is legal under the Constitution if 5 politically appointed judges say it is legal. Conversely, anything is illegal under the Constitution if 5 politically appointed Judges say it is illegal - even the Constitution itself. We have found the real flaw in the Constitution - the assumption that Judges have character and will act with honesty rather than raw political allegiance.
Let’s pray his brownshirts wear blue helmets to make them easy targets.