[MrPiper]

civilian defense force’ that is ‘as well funded as the military

Does anyone know if a state controlled militia is legal under the constitution without succession? This might off set this farce of a CDF.

I know the second Amendment allows this militia to be armed. Could a state use state funds and donations to fund a State Militia controlled by the Governor? (National Guard is fed funded and fed controlled)

If Obombus goes through with this Obombanation, maybe some brave congress critters could get an exception to this forced servitude if one is already a member of a "State CDF".

If a fed tells me my kids are being taken away to join a federal training camp, I'm afraid they will not go peacefully.

[Gaffer]

In Germany, the civilian defense force started out as Hitler’s Brown Shirts and became the Gestapo and the SS.

[Beckwith]

Obama is already building  a cadre to lead his own "people’s organization" -- and he's got a ton of money -- more than $75 million.

Obama has, through his nonprofit group, "Public Allies," a pun on Alinsky's "people’s organizations," has been organizing and training a political cadre since 1993.  There are fifteen fully-staffed and populated chapters, operating under the watchful eye of Michelle Obama.

The Obama Campaign is also conducting, at the state level, a "national program for social change," called "Camp Obama," and there's no marshmallows at Camp Obama.  Here's their sign-up page -- you too can be a "Deputy Field Organizer."

Obama Campaign's website promises that "you'll get the kind of experience that Barack got as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago," and "Camp Obama is your chance to step up and become a leader in this movement."

Movement?  What movement?

Public Allies and Camp Obama are Alinsky training programs designed to build a core group of "community organizers" dedicated to "social change" in their communities. 

Their charter will be to bring about "Change."  They'll do this through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation -- the tactics of Alinsky.

Obama is cloning thousands of baby Obamas -- a "people’s organization" -- and on our dime.

A "movement" -- dedicated to social change by getting people "pissed off" -- and there will be thousands of them.

If Obama should sit in the Oval Office, just what do you think he has planned for these guys?

And -- if Obama shouldn't sit in the Oval Office, just what do you think he has planned for these guys?

Remember this? 

On July 2nd, 2008, Obama spoke in Colorado Springs and hit themes of national service, foreign policy, and national security.  In that vein, Obama proposed a rather extraordinary idea -- that the US should spend as much money on a civilian national security force as it does on the military. (video)

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

And what color shirts will they wear?

Lenin said this about socialism: "The goal of socialism is communism."

[pbmaltzman]

Does anyone know if a state controlled militia is legal under the constitution without succession? This might off set this farce of a CDF.

Do you mean secession, as in seceding from the Union? Just wondering, because "succession" doesn't feel like the right word here. Yeah, I know it's nitpicking.

[garykfd]

The South Carolina State Guard is a state malitia controlled by the govoner of the state of sc

[NewJerseyJoe]

I’ve been calling it “Obama’s private army.”

[SECURE AMERICA]

This is my thought on Obama’s idea of Brown Shirts for America.
Unlike the German Military, the American Military will not take kindly to these people. I work closely with many current military people and I do not see them sitting idlely by and allowing America to be taken over by thugs.
Beyond that, we the people of America are far better armed then the German people were and I do not see us allowing Brown Shirts to operate in the same manner as did the german peoples.

[ought-six]

“I know the second Amendment allows this militia to be armed.”

WRONG!!! The Second Amendment doesn’t “allow” anything: It clearly states that the right to keep and bear arms (a pre-existing, God-given right, just as life itself) shall not be infringed. The Second Amendment is a reminder and a warning to the government that it CANNOT infringe on the right that the people already have.

[A Navy Vet]

"Does anyone know if a state controlled militia is legal under the constitution without succession?"

Yup, right here: State Guard Association of the United States.

There are 27 volunteer State Guard/Militia/Reservists (different terms for different states) units in 24 States under the direct control of each State Governor. They are not affiliated with the National Guard and therefore cannot be called into service by the President.

They mostly consist of a bunch of ole-timer Veterans, much like the Coast Guard Auxiliary. However, unlike the CG Auxiliary, they are not Congressionally sanctioned. They are strictly State authorized.

Most people don't know about them. And although they may be a bunch of "geezers", they have a formal chain-of-command, regulations, and uniforms (self bought), and can be mobilized by their own State's authority.

So yes, there ARE recognized Militias. Not to mention that the US Code stipulates that any male between the ages of 18 and 40 (IIRC) are part of the Militia (Google US Code +Militia). Think about how many US citizens are subject to the Militia Code that could legally fight the military if there were cause.

[grobdriver]

This is why there's a Second Amendment!

[wny]

recall the 2 goons with clubs outside the Philly polling station? that’s the OCDF

[BILL_C]

A civilian force;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

His prototype?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY

[Peelod]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) in the former Confederate states.

The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act.
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[Jackknife]

If he does this, there will be armed revolution and blood will run in the city streets.

[Feckless]

Has the Constitution ever been anything more than a minor annoyance to these people? I’ve long worried that it will have to be bloodied to be saved. Even more now.

[mad_as_he$$]

First of all call it what he did. “National Security Force”. You think legal or illegal will stop him? He will make it part of the draft and that is how it will become “legal”. It will not be a national guard etc. It will be a response to a Wag the Dog type scenario before the 2010 elections and will start out as “community service”.

[Red in Blue PA]

Re: A Civil Defense Force

We have this now. It’s called CCW.

[ghostrider]

Does anyone know if a state controlled militia is legal under the constitution without succession?

Anything is legal under the Constitution if 5 politically appointed judges say it is legal. Conversely, anything is illegal under the Constitution if 5 politically appointed Judges say it is illegal - even the Constitution itself. We have found the real flaw in the Constitution - the assumption that Judges have character and will act with honesty rather than raw political allegiance.

[zeugma]

Let’s pray his brownshirts wear blue helmets to make them easy targets.