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If we're so "doomed" and destined to fail, why write long, tedious articles about us? Just ignore us. You won! You control both houses of congress and the presidency. What is it about Governor Sarah Palin that enrages you so? She's back up in Alaska, Lord Obama is about to be installed in the Oval Office, what more do you want?
1 posted on 11/11/2008 12:26:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Hmm... Become Democrats.... isn’t that what we just did with the moderates running the campaign?

Here’s a hint - people don’t go with the imitation. They go with the real thing. Republicans pretending to be Democrats are not going to take votes away from Democrats.


2 posted on 11/11/2008 12:30:39 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Sarah Palin is destined to give birth to a new movement.

She already has. Obama can go back to Hell, my loyalty is and will remain with Sarah Palin.

3 posted on 11/11/2008 12:31:30 AM PST by TheFourthMagi
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If we're so "doomed" and destined to fail, why write long, tedious articles about us? Just ignore us. You won!

I was going to write something similar but you said it so well. Are these libs so feverish in their blind devotion that they are angry that not EVERYONE worships their Messiah?

Obama ran as a blank page and won, and his fans are trying to mop up any resistance before he gets into office, thinking the world will be perfect and all will be in love if only those damn Republicans join in. If not, they'll be blaming us for Obama's failures.

Let's see, a liberal democrat (as opposed to a self-centered Democrat moderate with lefty flirtations) wins the White House for the first time in over thirty years--and it's the OTHER side that's dead?

4 posted on 11/11/2008 12:32:51 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (1-22-13)
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This one thing I keep hearing over and over just burns me up! The fact that the liberals think we are going to lose again because we are wanting to move further to the right! We are conservatives and want to be further to the right! It is WHO WE ARE!! And Sarah Palin represents our values. What is so hard to understand about that? Why should we move to the center (meaning moving towards liberals)? That’s what some of the RINOs did and it cost them!

Did the libtards ever second guess their two losses on 2000 and 2004 and decide to move closer to the middle? Nope! They moved further to the left with Obama! There wasn’t a lot of analyzing the death of the liberal movement by the MSM and why they lost!

I am tired of the MSM analyzing us and calling us dead. The one thing I know is that when you get conservatives whipped up we can kick some butt. I believe we are angry now but after 4 years of Obama we will be fed up and ready to take charge....without moving to the center.


6 posted on 11/11/2008 12:41:07 AM PST by SoldiersSister (SoldiersSister)
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The only way I’ll ever be a Damnocrat is when I’m six feet under a tombstone and ACORN manages to get my name on the registration rolls.


7 posted on 11/11/2008 12:41:41 AM PST by Allegra
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exacly, dont try to smooth talk us real consevatives, with your long articles, Just tell the truth without PC bias. Then at least a person might read all you wrote.

I can sum it up in 10% of words, what really happened.

But I must digress, back then a boy like me would’ve been put on “meds”. Then I’d be like “whaaa...”


8 posted on 11/11/2008 12:47:00 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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I don’t need a Democrat or a Liberal Republican to tell me how we can win again. Our leaders just have to be Republican Conservatives Again. I’m tired of Democrats running as conservatives to win then voting liberal!


9 posted on 11/11/2008 12:48:15 AM PST by tallyhoe
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The sad part is, there are people in high places in the RNC and elsewhere in the Republican Party who believe this excrement is right on the money.

Of course, if something isn’t done about electoral fraud and illegal immigration...


10 posted on 11/11/2008 1:02:20 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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Republican thinkers have pondered what went wrong,”

Easy.
We run a pro-amnesty, anti-ANWR, anti-offshore drilling until just before the elections, global warming nonsense supporting guy, who has spent the past 4 years attacking conservatives. Conservatives could hardly bear to vote for the guy.
And oh, we got hit by the financial meltdown in the markets.
Message is clear: Run real conservatives, especially with a hard line Marxist in the White House, and we win.

12 posted on 11/11/2008 1:14:16 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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This guy is projecting more vile and hatred that the Democrats have been spewing for the last 7 years than he is commenting on conservatives. However, he has a point about the changing nature of the population sliding more towards liberalism. Conservatives have to address this point and its root cause — the university and media — before it can understand why it should win future elections. The author takes for granted that conservatism is the way of the dinosaur and socialism is the progressive practical stance of the next groovy generation. He gloats to think that conservatism is done, that there is nothing worth conserving from Bush and the old farts — Republicans too are done and have to morph into a new party. I think his hatred has clouded his thinking, especially with calling Bush conservative and resorting to labeling Palin as trailer trash. But Conservatives still have to address why the population is veering towards liberalism in general.


14 posted on 11/11/2008 1:19:26 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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I think, since 1994, the Democrats have infiltrated the GOP, especially with the behavior of some RNC people of late. I know as a fact that many local Republican central committees have been taken over by liberals.

A friend of mine suggested a massive movement of Republicans registering to vote as Democrats and completely dissolving the Republican party. (A colossal “Operation Chaos.”)

This would confound things nicely (and scare the $hit out of the fence sitters) and it would also FORCE these a-hole politicians to talk about ISSUES.

Would it work? I don’t know.

It would certainly create a huge problem for the Democrats if they were the only political party on the ballot. It would scare the HELL out of people.

I have always wondered why the Republicans don’t learn to street fight. In some races, why do they even field a candidate? After several elections people will be begging for an alternative AND the media wouldn’t know what to do with themselves if there was a constitutionalist Democrat.


15 posted on 11/11/2008 1:21:26 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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If the true believers win, we may witness a Palin candidacy in 2012 — and a likely electoral landslide that will bury the GOP so deeply it may never dig out.”

Could be correct about the landslide.
Wrong about who will be buried though.
We are not even going to wait for 2012 ti bury the RATS. We will smoke the RATS come 2010, in the House elections.
What we need to do is get a tough conservative like Newt, to sweep away the amnesty lovers that President Bush has put in charge of the Republican Party(something that made me stop all contributions to the Republican Party), and work hard to get real conservatives to take on the RATS in 2010.

17 posted on 11/11/2008 1:22:39 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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they are truly scared of Palin....isnt that very very interesting...


18 posted on 11/11/2008 1:24:06 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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LOL! The vote was ~52%-47% but we should go out and kill ourselves..

Nope. We'll just wait here and watch this comedy act called the DNC dismantle our nation and be prepared to pick up the pieces soon afterwards.

22 posted on 11/11/2008 1:29:43 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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we tried this strategy. The candidate was john mccain


23 posted on 11/11/2008 1:32:19 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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Part of the problem is the disconnect betweeen the cities/suburbs and the places where raw natural resources and food are produced. The cultural values are quite different and the urbanites have no idea how dependent they really are on their rural cousins. If those rural cousins should organize and cease to produce ( “strike”) the raw materials upon which the urbanites “just in time” manufacturing and food processing and distribution is based, they might just come to a greater appreciation of the country bumpkins they so love to demonize and hate. Perhaps they might just BACK OFF the regulations they so love to bind us with.


24 posted on 11/11/2008 1:35:41 AM PST by marsh2
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Bring back the old Democrats before the commies took it over and some might consider it.

But, somehow I doubt it. ;-)


25 posted on 11/11/2008 1:37:37 AM PST by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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At the very least, Gary could have provided a photo of himself, with his article, so we could determine if he looks as stupid as he actually is.

One thing is for sure, and that is that he is going to have a Kool Aid mustache because he has drank a lot of it.

He definitely went overboard on Palin in calling her feckless. That is patently unfair as well as inaccurate. I do think Conservatives need to let go of Palin and stop, literally convincing ourselves she is our new leader well before the time.

That is not Gary’s watch though and he says these things to demean and would love it if all the claptrap he was spewing was true. It is not. I have seen a lot of the Jindal and Palin love-fest going on here at FR and in my opinion it is the wrong thing to do at the wrong time.

That is the problem with the Party. They want to engage in some popularity contest and we want our own rock star I suppose.

What we should be doing now is promoting our ideology and our beliefs, explaining why what we believe is better for America and Americans. Promoting our beliefs and fighting for them is what will win elections. Think about this past election; it was Rudy v Hillary, right? How did that work out for Rudy and Hillary? Seeking out our own Cult of personality three years before the time is not going to be helpful. In fact I find all of this a bit silly. Flame away, but when the time comes for choosing, regardless of whether it is Jindal, Palin, Romney or anyone else; I say to them, “show me”. So far, I do not see it but we have four years and many things can change for better or worse in that time.

It is time for Conservatives to man up and stop indulging in fantasy scenarios and start spreading the reality of our beliefs and ideologies that lie at all our cores. As soon as next Summer, when gas prices have reached $4/gal. once again there will be a nation hungry to hear our beliefs and ideas.


26 posted on 11/11/2008 1:39:52 AM PST by WildcatClan (If we are the one's we have been waiting for, we must be incredibly stupid.)
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I think this pantload Kamiya may be right, in a sick kind of way. Given that America no longer exists as the proud nation it once was, it doesn’t deserve a rescue attempt by conservatives. It’s gone. Walk away. Every man for himself.

It’s hard to feel like an American any more because America has become little more than a land mass populated by too many people who have no respect whatsoever for our military and who sit around with their hands out waiting for big government to confiscate money from their neighbors and “redistribute” it to them.

That’s the Democrats’ America.
That’s an America not worth defending.


27 posted on 11/11/2008 1:46:48 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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after Lyndon Johnson's demolition of Barry Goldwater in 1964.

And then, of course, along came Ronald Reagan.

Let them wallow in their smugness. It's easier to blindside them.

31 posted on 11/11/2008 2:15:02 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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