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55 million conservatives better get their act together, and FAST
11/06/08 | prismsinc

Posted on 11/06/2008 7:31:35 AM PST by prismsinc

We need to network our activities people. The PUMAs fooled us. I saw the exit polling data, and it showed that single/divorced woman turned out for Eclair by a wide margin. We were duped by Hillary. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME. We are no doubt under seige. Fascists at the top, working class moderates/liberals and the poor at the bottom.

They are very well organized, and they plan to exterminate us. Right now, they're coordinating their next move on us. We can't get involved in our minute differences. We fundamentally have the same ideals. So wake up, true conservatives. No waffling, no cowardice, an certainly no naiivete!


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To: prismsinc

Free Republic is Drowning in Vanity Postings—Please Stop


21 posted on 11/06/2008 7:49:36 AM PST by newberger (Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death!)
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To: mnehrling

it wasn’t just the websites. It was a major part of mccain’s campaign. Major feminists at the rallies. The hillary mortgage idea that mccain dropped during the 2nd debate. The hillary robocalls.


22 posted on 11/06/2008 7:50:40 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: mouse1
The conservative base was the problem.

Pffft. "Moderate" Republicans demanded (and were given) carte blanche opportunity to demonstrate, once and for all, that they knew how to win at the national level, this year.

They got exactly the candidate they wanted. They got exactly the party platform they demanded. The campaign was run exactly the way they insisted it be run.

How'd that end up working out for us, again...?

They actually managed to lose to a one-term Senate Marxist with open and unapologetic terrorist ties. The ONLY thing I want to hear from Team McCain or any of its shrill little online apologists, from this day forward, is a meek and contrite: "We're sorry."

They have nothing else worthwhile what. so. EVER. to contribute to any meaningful discussion, re: either conservatism or winning electoral strategies.

"Moderates" have conclusively demonstrated, once and for all, that they know how to lose like nobody's business. How very, very... helpful.

23 posted on 11/06/2008 7:52:14 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: mouse1

You were saying — “and the conservatives stayed home.”

Well, the conservatives in Oklahoma didn’t stay home. As an example of what conservatives can do, look at the 66% for McCain in Oklahoma. That’s the largest percentage for McCain in all the states (for the Republican ticket).

Compared to Democrat states, only two exceeded Oklahoma in their percentages for the Democrat ticket (they were Hawaii and Vermont). No other Democrat states (for the Democrat ticket) exceeded the percentages of Oklahoma.

Perhaps we should start looking toward Oklahoma for what the Republicans should do...


24 posted on 11/06/2008 7:52:44 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: toddausauras

Yes. In another time, we wouldn’t have been running against a young, black, attractive, articulate, and hip candidate. That’s why a 72 year old man didn’t help. Not to mention he was not a conservative.

How the GOP did not see this is what really amazes me.


25 posted on 11/06/2008 7:52:46 AM PST by adc (Rush '08All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently oppos)
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To: prismsinc
You know, I've been hearing this "they fooled us at the exit polls" since Jimmy Carter ran for President. You'd think by now the Conservative movement would "get it" that they media is in the tank for anything leaning left, and they try to use their pulpit to herd us around like cattle.

But, the left has the blacks, and the GOP is afraid of the black. There, I said it. The GOP is so damn scared of being politically incorrect and causing a riot that they bend over and spread'em everytime a liberal burps.

Remember those two huge Black Panther guys dressed in para-military fashion who - with their threatening nightsticks - were trying to block the door of the polls in PA? Now, why aren't there huge white guys dressed in military style with nightsticks guarding the polls too? After all, ACORN is the biggest suspect of voter fraud around, and it is largely AA.

It must be lack of balls, because I don't see any white "enforcers" around anywhere.

How can the Black Panthers suddenly assign themselves to be "the police" and be "in charge" of a Federal Polling place? Where were the FEDS?

Using their logic, are they going to start "guarding" anyplace that white people are "allowed" (in their view)? They claimed to be fighting "white supremacy". Frankly, I go lots of places, and I haven't seen any "white supremacy" since watching the KKK march in Selma, Alabama in the early 60's. They seem to be trying to resurect a ghost from the past to use as an excuse for anarchy. Again, where's the FEDS?

Now, if a white guy has a few guns in Waco, Texas, the FEDS bring in an army, complete with tanks and bazookas to take him and the women and children out...but the Black Panthers can just take over a federal location with no resistance?

Krushev was right.
26 posted on 11/06/2008 7:53:50 AM PST by FrankR
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To: AHerald

I agree completely about single-divorced women being a Democratic constituency. That together with the youth and first-time voters put Obama over the top. Going into the election, many pundits predicted it would not be a Republican year. They were right. But for McCain to keep it as close in the battleground states is a testament to his -never-give-up mentality but above all his selection of Sarah who brought more people into McCain’s tent than was otherwise possible before the Republican convention. Let’s just accept defeat and move on and be more determined to defeat Obama in 2012.


27 posted on 11/06/2008 7:54:44 AM PST by techno
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

they were upset at the Palin pick. but come on. mccain was loooosing in the polls until he picked her.


28 posted on 11/06/2008 7:54:52 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: prismsinc

I would agree that the PUMA movement was probably McCain campaign astroturfing. Only 18% of Hillary supporter voted McCain, which is about 9% of dems overall. Roughly the same percentage of Reps (RINOs and Retards) voted Obama.

I think one MAJOR CHANGE that needs to be made to the Republican primary system is proportional awarding of convention delegates. The winner take all system has failed us because the “institutional” pick wins with 32% of the vote in 4 states. Letting a bunch of Proletarian Iowa farmers and New Hampshire crossover Dems pick our candidate has really screwed us since Reagan. Think about it, we really are allowing blue states to pick our candidate. Perhaps we need regional primaries. That way, the strongest candidates is/are building campaign infrastructure in each state. Why don’t republicans win in New England or in the west, but at the same time a gay marriage ban passes in CA. I am tired of this bullshit writing off of states. We have conservatives who are stuck in the closet because they think their state is totally liberal and loves welfare and taxes. The Republican Party has let these citizens down by ignoring their states. When we only fight on our turf, the enemy also only fights on our turf, AND THEY JUST WON. We need a campaign that fights for even the bluest state of Vermont. Did anyone else notice that Obama only got 6.2 million votes in CA and 4.3 million votes in New York?

Screw the conventional wisdom that we can’t win these states. There are citizens there who believe in the same conservative principles that we do. I realize the dem institutional machines are in place, but they are old and established, and I believe they can be beaten with some effort, organization, a clear conservative message, and some creativity.

Or on the other hand, we can just keep writing those states off and just try to win every future election with 270-290 electoral votes. IT IS ABSURD THAT THERE ARE NO HOUSE REPUBLICANS IN NEW ENGLAND. But if conservatives never go there, never run for office, never try to spread the message and win people over it will NEVER happen.

This loss is about bad ideas and bad organization. If we had slightly better message with much better organization, we would’ve won.


29 posted on 11/06/2008 7:55:36 AM PST by johncocktoasten (Obama/Biden '08, in and of itself, A Bridge To Nowhere)
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To: Phoenix11
Why do people have a problem with conservatives not voting for a liberal to moderate Republican. I held my nose and voted McCain as an anti-Obama vote, but I have nothing but respect for conservatives who could not make that compromise of their integrity. I have a feeling they are sleeping better than I am right now.

It's said that you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but this old dog has learned his lesson - never again!

30 posted on 11/06/2008 7:57:32 AM PST by VRWCtaz (POTUS Obama is the only thing between us and POTUS Biden - I picked the wrong time to quit drinking.)
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To: adc

how can *any* white guy win against an Obama or Hillary? Especially after 8 years of Bush. Think about it. Obama was being merciful to McCain when he picked biden over hillary for VP.


31 posted on 11/06/2008 7:57:53 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: prismsinc
First thing, I'm canceling my cable TV. I only watch a few programs and sports events, then FOX News pretty regularly. This is the only way I know to financially hit the elites who corrupted this election.

I was eating breakfast in the hotel lobby and CNN was on already stating what Obama will do.

Please, I cannot take 24/7 coverage of a man who won't take office until two months from now.

Now if you excuse me, I have to go to work to support the new middle class.

32 posted on 11/06/2008 7:58:24 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ConservativeMind

You are right of course. I cant believe I didnt see it coming when all the indicators were there. And we fell for the PUMA scam, hook, line, and sinker..(at least I did)


33 posted on 11/06/2008 7:59:18 AM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: pabianice

Hey, 11% of an opposing party’s base is pretty incredible.

Get over yourself. McCain, and conservatives who stayed home, did this.


34 posted on 11/06/2008 8:03:11 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Concerning Larry Sinclair: It is strange when you can be thankful for having a pervert on your side.)
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To: prismsinc

Look on the bright side. The power leeching Neocons will now return to the Democrat Party and proceed to take it over and ruin it too. The GOP can start with a clean slate of conservatives. Start with a positive 2010 Contract with America.


35 posted on 11/06/2008 8:04:27 AM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Mr. Know It All

Hey, “Mr. Know It All,” get your head out.

15-20% of Democrats, with over 10% of Hillary supporters, voted for our guy.

The problem was with McCain himself and that conservatives didn’t turn out. Look at the numbers Bush had in 2004. Do you think Hillary or Kerry people supported Bush at the rate of 15-20% then to make his number many millions more than McCains total?

Get realm and get a brain, Know It All.


36 posted on 11/06/2008 8:05:59 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Concerning Larry Sinclair: It is strange when you can be thankful for having a pervert on your side.)
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To: ConservativeMind
15-20% of Democrats, with over 10% of Hillary supporters, voted for our guy.
Did you make that number up or did it come to you in a hallucination? Those numbers are even close to reality.

Obama had support of at least 89% of Democrats and the number of Hillary supporters who voted for McCain couldn't even be measured.

37 posted on 11/06/2008 8:09:03 AM PST by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Mr. Know It All

Numbers from exit polls on ABC News election night.


38 posted on 11/06/2008 8:10:15 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Concerning Larry Sinclair: It is strange when you can be thankful for having a pervert on your side.)
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To: prismsinc

Why go out of our way to blame PUMAS, conservatives, the media or any other group when in reality, we do not have to go further than the McCain campaign itself?


39 posted on 11/06/2008 8:10:31 AM PST by CharacterCounts (Wanted: Snappy, erudite tag line.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
First thing, I'm canceling my cable TV.

I have Dish Network and pay for a premium package because Fox News is not included with their basic service. I'm rethinking that decision.

40 posted on 11/06/2008 8:11:46 AM PST by VRWCtaz (POTUS Obama is the only thing between us and POTUS Biden - I picked the wrong time to quit drinking.)
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