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Why not a new contract with America?
Myself ^ | Nov 6 2008 | Nateman

Posted on 11/06/2008 3:55:21 AM PST by Nateman

I knew this country was in trouble after McCain won the California primary , but I also had great hopes after Republicans got control of the congress under Clinton. They kept the promises of their contract then dropped the ball and went back to pork as usual. Why not a new contract that fixes the problem at its source: federal spending?

Imagine Republicans getting together at all levels, state and federal, and hammering out a proposed constitutional amendment which freezes the budget until it is balanced then keeps the budget frozen until income tax can be limited forevermore to some fixed amount? (I like 0 % myself, which it was for the first century ) Imagine putting that and other fiscal restrictions and so on in writing (unfounded mandates comes to mind).All these would be office holders then sign it, pledging that if elected this is what they would enact . I think it would become a huge rallying force that would not only throw the RATS out but make it much harder for them to buy the votes of our enemies in the future. (Should, heaven forbid!, they ever get power again.)

Other changes could be debated too but get it all out there in writing so it becomes a national referendum. The great thing about this is a president can do squat about it. Such things are within the power of Congress and the State houses alone. It would not only get control of the House but eventually the Senate if the RATS kept fighting it, and I have no doubt they would do so.


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To: Nateman

Excellent idea. But you can’t use the same tactics and pitches that have become tired over the past 30 or 40 years. They need to be freshened up and relevant to the world today.


61 posted on 11/06/2008 5:30:59 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: SengirV
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

If you read the fine details of the Contract with America, they kept their promises. Americans got together once and voted on the Constitution, we can do it again to fix the bad change we made in 1913.

62 posted on 11/06/2008 5:34:39 AM PST by Nateman (America, the enlightment for the world, must not be surrendered!)
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To: joesbucks
Excellent idea. But you can’t use the same tactics and pitches that have become tired over the past 30 or 40 years. They need to be freshened up and relevant to the world today.

I hoped somebody would come up with a better name for my pitch but 60 posts later nobody has come up with one!

63 posted on 11/06/2008 5:40:21 AM PST by Nateman (America, the enlightment for the world, must not be surrendered!)
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To: Safrguns
Do you think public schools would allow a return to principles? Hell no.

I posted a plan for that too many years ago and it was ignored. It was a combination of tax credits and vouchers designed to privatize the schools. I still think it would fix it.

64 posted on 11/06/2008 5:45:22 AM PST by Nateman (America, the enlightenment for the world, must not be surrendered!)
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To: Nateman
For the sake of marketing it needs a catchy name.

How about, "A Declaration of Independence?"

65 posted on 11/06/2008 5:45:56 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: theDentist
Why not both?

Well, if they'd have actually followed through with the last Contract with America, I could certainly be more jazzed about another one. A balanced budget amendment would be a great start. So would a line item veto. Since the 'Pubbies failed on so many of the measures in the last contract, I think another contract could be successfully beaten back simply by the 'Rats arguing that it's a gimmick. We also need a leader who can clearly articulate Conservative principles and right now I don't see anyone taking on that task. Boehner certainly doesn't seem up to it.....

66 posted on 11/06/2008 5:50:54 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: HIDEK6
How about, "A Declaration of Independence?"

My favorite line in the original is this:

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

Perhaps we could call it "the Redelcaration of Independence"?

67 posted on 11/06/2008 5:59:18 AM PST by Nateman (America, the enlightenment for the world, must not be surrendered!)
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To: randita
BINGO! It's not the message, it's the messenger.

Before any messenger can pronounce any message, he must first have , a message.

68 posted on 11/06/2008 6:03:27 AM PST by Nateman (America, the enlightenment for the world, must not be surrendered!)
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To: dalebert
how about Rebirth of Wall Street

Have government get out of the way and it will come back just fine. Spring follows winter without any government tinkering.

69 posted on 11/06/2008 6:06:35 AM PST by Nateman (America, the enlightenment for the world, must not be surrendered!)
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To: Thermalseeker
We also need a leader who can clearly articulate Conservative principles and right now I don't see anyone taking on that task.

We should draft Rush and make Ann Coulter his VP, that way if they won the RATS would feel like we do now!

70 posted on 11/06/2008 6:14:10 AM PST by Nateman (America, the enlightenment for the world, must not be surrendered!)
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To: 03A3

I agree Mike Pence. (I fell like a broken record on this), but I think it’s important we get thi idea out and call our reps./call talk radio/write letters to the editor/blog/contact conservative personalities/talk to neighbors/email over this idea of new conservative leadership in the House and Senate!! now.


71 posted on 11/06/2008 8:07:27 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: Safrguns
Another attempt to suppress free speech?

Do you often make mountains out of mole hills? You interpret my not reading a vanity post as an attempt to suppress free speech? One wonders. Are you a Keith Olbermann fan?

72 posted on 11/06/2008 1:20:42 PM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Do you often make mountains out of mole hills? You interpret my not reading a vanity post as an attempt to suppress free speech? One wonders. Are you a Keith Olbermann fan? 1. no... Only when i'm feeling unusually irritable. 2. No... just your reply that suggests that nobody else reads them. 3. I don't know who Keith Olbermann is. Your initial response to the vanity was just one of many I see all the time. Even today I saw a similar complaint on a vanity that was posted in the smokey backroom where those types of threads belong... so don't take it personal.
73 posted on 11/06/2008 3:09:25 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns
your reply that suggests that nobody else reads them

I only speak for myself. At the point where I made my reply, 20+ others had already replied. I could logically assert that "nobody" else had read the post.

74 posted on 11/06/2008 8:00:37 PM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: Nateman
Screw political parties - they are both the same now. Republicans had their chance and screwed the pooch.

See my post about lawsuits against unConstitutional legislation.

75 posted on 02/23/2009 3:35:28 AM PST by A Navy Vet (o)
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To: A Navy Vet
Republicans had their chance and screwed the pooch.

All too true. politics however is not the art of the perfect but making the best of what you have. If Republicans rallied around a Balanced Budget Amendment they would give people a reason to vote for them rather than hoping folks merely vote against the evil party.( As long as they are making a contract why not throw in Term Limits and some way to privatize education!)

76 posted on 03/03/2009 9:34:01 PM PST by Nateman (FUBO and the Alinsky you rode in on!)
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To: Thermalseeker

The Constitution is the only “contract with American” that any political party needs to succeed. The ‘Pubbies should try adhering to the “original Contract with America” and all would be well.....
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I would like to agree but evidence indicates that only a small minority of voters have any idea what the Constitution says and even less of what it means. I have long been amazed at the people I meet who claim to be conservative Republicans but advocate all kinds of government action in direct violation of the constitution. The first thing we need is a return to the original voter qualification restrictions, relaxing those requirements was the first grave error that led to all the other grave errors. Sadly, I see no possibility of that even being considered, let alone done.


77 posted on 08/20/2009 6:39:13 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: RipSawyer
I have long been amazed at the people I meet who claim to be conservative Republicans but advocate all kinds of government action in direct violation of the constitution.

If you have a chance to meet them and they claim to be "conservative" and start asking for your vote after supporting such nonsense, smile, look them straight in the eye and say "sorry, I don't vote for Marxists". You will then be treated to the biggest exercise in crawfishing you can imagine. These sort of people think no one is on to them. When you call them on it they usually go ballistic. I had an opportunity to do this once with Lincoln Davis, (D) TN. He's supposed to be one of the so-called "blue dogs". I wish I'd have had a picture of the look on his face when I told him "I don't support Marxism, and therefore, I don't vote for Marxists like you!" I said it loud enough that those nearby could hear, too. The look on his face was just like what you'd see when you catch a 6 year old doing something they know they weren't supposed to do. Classic.

The first thing we need is a return to the original voter qualification restrictions, relaxing those requirements was the first grave error that led to all the other grave errors. Sadly, I see no possibility of that even being considered, let alone done.

I agree. I would love to see the original requirement to be a land owner in order to be able to vote. You should have to have a vested interest in the country, not a paid welfare broodmare who will sell their vote for a hit of crack.....

78 posted on 08/20/2009 6:51:08 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Nateman

To the few hardy souls who’ve made it this far I have decided upon a name for the new contract. It should be known as “The Republican redeclaration of Independence” . Like the original it should list the abuses, but this time also list the proposed cures.


79 posted on 11/21/2009 8:51:45 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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