FreePers: I have had an epiphany about our nation's history

various | 11/02/08 | prismsinc

[prismsinc]

After studying the cryptic history of the Democrat candidate for President, Barack Obama Jr., I had an eye-opening revelation about U.S. radicalism: The radical movement we currently know as the "60's" was in fact started in the years following WWII. In the history books (I'm a border Gen-Xer/Boomer), I vividly remember being taught that the Vietnam-era anti-war activists was a 60's phenomenon, and based on how the books assembled the timeline, the 60's were an isolated period in our nation's history. After studying Obama's parents, It has become clear to me that Obama's grandparents were a part of a broad underground Communist network that began in the late 40's, and it was begun by those that privately objected to WWII. This is enlightening me to just how deep this infection is. My Mother-in-law was born in 1938, and I've asked her about her experience with people that were of a radical nature in her time growing up, and she vividly remembers that in fact there were definitely radicals that could be identified, not just by the media, but just going to the local market or coffee shop. It's unclear what exactly triggered this sort of radicalism to infest our culture, but it certainly was NOT isolated to the 60's. It wasn't "idealistic" Kent State style college students that began this movement. It was their 40's era PARENTS!

[prismsinc]

I wated to add that the history books tended to make WWII look like a universally accepted war, and did not teach us about those that objected to it.

[Berlin_Freeper]

Television.

[gundog]

Further back than that. Look into the IWW and others that plotted co-ordinated bomb attacks post Bolshevik Revolution.

[Doohickey]

Not another paragraph-challenged frigging vanity in the news forum.

[Huck]

It began before the 40s. The commies were infiltrating back in the 20s. They took advantage of two areas of weakness in the 30s--our economic malaise (the Great Depression) and our racial woes (segregation, Jim Crow.) They exploited these two areas to gain power and undermine our way of life. Google the "Scottsboro Boys." The commies provided legal help and used trials like this to advance their cause. The 60s civil rights movement was brought about in part by help from commies, who saw it as a great opportunity to infiltrate and subvert America. The 60s flower power sprang out of the civil rights movement.

The FDR administration was a socialist enterprise, filled with commies. Go back a little further in time. You will see.

[ffusco]

The origins of the radical left go back to the age of enlightenment. The writer Rousseau first posited the idea of the “noble savage”-the idea that it was western civilization itself that corrupted man.

[RegulatorCountry]

Good for you, for questioning assumptions. But, you’re not going back far enough. Communists have been attempting to influence this country for much longer than that, certainly pre-Depression era. Research Sacco and Vanzetti.

[Mr. Mojo]

part of a broad underground Communist network that began in the late 40's, and it was begun by those that privately objected to WWII

The network goes back to the early '20s. I met a guy who once attended a commie summer camp in the Catskills in the mid-30s. (He's still around, and voting for Obama....although Kucinich was his first choice). CPUSA had hundreds of thousands of members back then.

[SandRat]

Publisher: Random House Inc
Pub. Date: April 2008
ISBN-13: 9780307339461

Synopsis
From Communes to the Clintons

Why does Hillary Clinton crusade for government-provided health care for every American, for the redistribution of wealth, and for child rearing to become a collective obligation? Why does Al Gore say that it’s okay to “over-represent” the dangers of global warming in order to sell Americans on his draconian solutions? Why does Michael Moore call religion a device to manipulate “gullible” Americans?

Where did these radical ideas come from? And how did they enter the mainstream discourse?

In this groundbreaking and compelling new book, Daniel J. Flynn uncovers the surprising origins of today’s Left. The first work of its kind, A Conservative History of the American Left tells the story of this remarkably resilient extreme movement–one that came to America’s shores with the earliest settlers.

Flynn reveals a history that leftists themselves ignore, whitewash, or obscure. Partly the Left’s amnesia is convenient: Who wouldn’t want to forget an ugly history that includes eugenics, racism, violence, and sheer quackery? Partly it is self-aggrandizing: Bold schemes sound much more innovative when you refuse to acknowledge that they have been tried–and have failed–many times before. And partly it is unavoidable: The Left is so preoccupied with its triumphal future that it doesn’t pause to learn from its past mistakes. So it goes that would-be revolutionaries have repeatedly failed to recognize the one troubling obstacle to their grandiose visions: reality.

In unfolding this history, Flynn presents a page-turning narrative filled with colorful,fascinating characters–progressives and populists, radicals and reformers, socialists and SDSers, and leftists of every other stripe. There is the rags-to-riches Welsh industrialist who brought his utopian vision to America–one in which private property, religion, and marriage represented “the most monstrous evils”–and gained audiences with the likes of Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and James Madison. There is the wife-swapping Bible thumper who nominated Jesus Christ for president. There is the playboy adventurer whose worshipful accounts of Soviet Russia lured many American liberals to Communism. There is the daughter of privilege turned violent antiwar activist who lost her life to a bomb she had intended to use against American soldiers. There are fanatics and free spirits, perverts and puritans, entrepreneurs and altruists, and many more beyond.

A Conservative History of the American Left is a gripping chronicle of the radical visionaries who have relentlessly pursued their lofty ambitions to remake society. Ultimately, Flynn shows the destructiveness that comes from this undying pursuit of dreams that are utterly unattainable.

[purplelobster]

The roots are global. Go tell it to the Romanovs. Marxism is finally a mainstream American brand, but people need to look beneath the slogans and imagery to see that their rights are being diminished.

[lmc12]

Obama is the new Woodrow Wilson and will thru his weakness get us involved in a wide conflict.

[SpaceBar]

Just Google the actor who played grampa Walton (Will Geer). Deluded socialists have been around a long time.

[lmc12]

that’s true but this election looks like the the election of 1860. Passions are HIGH!!!!

[andy58-in-nh]

Google the phrase “Red Diaper babies”. It’s a well-documented phenomenon.

[newnhdad]

The commies started back earlier in the century with the labor movement. They reached out to the arts/film crowd back then too. It was the leadership of Hollywood that depended on money and kept most of it under wraps back then. From what I remember, J Edgar Hoover was uncovering it very early in his life, prior to the FBI too.

The 60’s was a reawakening because they started to gain a foothold in the world of academia after the war and poisoning the minds of the youth, Hoover and McCarthy had it right.

This translated to more people taking up teaching jobs in the 70’s and continuing the process until we got what we have today. About half of the population convinced that it's necessary to take money from hardworking people, give it to loafers and make as many people dependent on the gummint or some of us are more equal than others. this is why kids don't learn about the founding fathers or the true intent of the constitution, just that it's a document written by a bunch of old white guys that says you can have an abortion.

It's what they call a “soft” or “bloodless” revolution.

[Pajamajan]

Read Ann Coulter’s book- “Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to The War on Terrorism”

[yldstrk]

I think you are right. Damn commmies

[AnnGora]

There is a case for going back even further to the early 1900’s where radical anarchists like Emma Goldman believed in the complete annihilation of the US goverment by violent means. There were many bombings and murders by these domestic terrorists and one, Leon Czolgosz, actually asassinated the President.

[gundog]

Research Sacco and Vanzetti.

Not entirely certain that they weren't victims of the anti-immigrant sentiments roused by the Commies. Research Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer.