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Down to the Wire, Va. Still Too Close to Call, Poll Shows (Looks Good for McCain)
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | November 2, 2008 | Dale Eisman

Posted on 11/02/2008 7:18:33 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Down to the wire, Va. still too close to call, poll shows

The survey of 625 likely voters in Virginia found 47 percent supported Obama, 44 percent preferred McCain and 9 percent were undecided. The margin of error is plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Swing state

Should Virginia vote Democratic, Barack Obama probably will win the White House. But should McCain hold the state, the result could portend a McCain comeback nationally.

The earliest signs of who will be the next president might spring from Virginia and how undecided white voters such as John Morris and Sidney Blankenbeckler cast their ballots.

"I'm pretty disappointed in Republicans right now, and I don't think John McCain is offering a lot that's new," said Morris, a retired Navy captain who lives in Chesterfield County, a prosperous Richmond suburb. "But frankly, I'm scared of Obama and some of the things he's been talking about."

Three hundred miles west, in tiny Sugar Grove, a farming and manufacturing community deep in the Appalachians, Blankenbeckler worries that a McCain victory would mean "four more years of kind of dragging along" but that Obama might be "borderline Socialist." Blankenbeckler said he is trying to decide "which is least worst."

Virginia will be among the first states to report results Tuesday night, and should it vote Democratic for the first time in a presidential race since 1964 - as many polls suggest - Barack Obama probably will win the White House. But should McCain hold the state, the result could portend a McCain comeback nationally.

A new poll commissioned by The Virginian-Pilot concludes the state remains up for grabs. The survey of 625 likely voters found 47 percent supported Obama, 44 percent preferred McCain and a crucial 9 percent were undecided. Because the poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points, the race is technically a dead heat.

The telephone survey was conducted by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. on Wednesday and Thursday.

J. Bradford Coker, who oversaw the survey, said the ultimate outcome in Virginia and elsewhere might hinge on whether undecided white voters are willing to vote for Obama, who would be the nation's first African American president.

The Mason-Dixon poll shows that 11 percent of whites are undecided - far more than usual in the closing week of a statewide election, Coker said. The last time the figure was nearly as high was 1989 in Virginia, when Democrat Doug Wilder was elected the nation's first black governor.

Like Obama, Wilder had a small but clear lead in late polls. But on election night, in a phenomenon that came to be known in Virginia as "the Wilder effect," an unexpectedly large Republican vote in predominately white precincts brought GOP nominee Marshall Coleman within a whisker - four-tenths of 1 percentage point - of victory.

Coker said "almost all" of the undecided white voters broke for Coleman on Election Day; a similar break this year could deliver Virginia's 13 electoral votes to McCain.

The same phenomenon occurred in North Carolina's 1990 U.S. Senate race. Democrat Harvey Gantt, an African American, led by 4 percentage points in the final poll only to lose by 6 points on Election Day to Republican Jesse Helms.

"The million-dollar question is whether there will be a Wilder/Gantt effect in the 2008 presidential race," Coker said. "No matter what anyone theorizes, the answer today is that no one knows for sure."

In addition to Virginia, Coker said, the effect could tilt the scales to McCain in the battleground states of Colorado, Florida, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist, said he normally expects about a 2 percent dip in white support for a black candidate on Election Day - not enough, he predicted, to tilt victory to McCain nationally or in Virginia.

And Obama's campaign might have insulated its candidate against any drop-off in white support, Sabato said, by registering millions of new voters in minority communities and college towns across the nation where the Democratic nominee appears especially popular.

Obama's strategists dispute the notion of a gap between the Illinois senator's white support in polls and in actual voting. Surveys accurately predicted the votes Obama received in most of the presidential primary elections earlier this year, they note, and Obama split the white vote evenly with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in Virginia's Democratic primary.

Other analysts note that Virginia's electorate today is a considerably different from 1989, largely because of explosive growth in the Washington, D.C., suburbs and an influx of immigrants.

Bob Holsworth, a political scientist at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, said he expects that highly motivated black voters and mostly Latino immigrants unhappy with GOP calls for tighter immigration laws will produce a 65,000-vote margin for Obama in Northern Virginia, more than double the advantage that Democrat John Kerry enjoyed there in 2004.

Holsworth said Obama also might benefit from having taken time to "become a familiar face" to Virginians. While other Democratic presidential candidates have tended to give up early on Virginia, Obama has shown up early and often - going to party functions and stumping for Virginia Democrats such as Gov. Timothy M. Kaine and Sen. Jim Webb before he was running himself.

Whatever the impact of race, Obama clearly is benefiting from President Bush's unpopularity in Virginia and around the nation. McCain has been cast as an heir to Bush "and he gets tarred with that brush," said U.S. Rep. Tom Davis, a Fairfax County Republican who is giving up his congressional seat and worries that it, too, will slip into Democratic hands.

Obama approaches Election Day with an overwhelming money advantage over McCain, stemming from his decision to for go federal financing of his campaign and raise cash on his own. As a result, Obama has opened 50 campaign offices around Virginia and has outspent McCain on broadcast advertising by more than 3-to-1.

The Mason-Dixon poll shows Obama with a 61 percent to 31 percent lead in populous Northern Virginia and a 50 percent to 40 percent lead in Hampton Roads. McCain is ahead in all other regions.

Among whites, McCain holds a 53 percent to 36 percent lead. Among blacks, Obama has a 92 percent to 5 percent advantage.

Each campaign boasts an army of more than 10,000 volunteers to lead what it predicts will be an unprecedented get-out-the-vote effort on Tuesday.

"I've never seen anything like this," said Del. Kenneth Melvin, D-Portsmouth, who supports Obama. "It's incredible. There's electricity in the air."

Morton Blackwell, one of the state's two representatives on the Republican National Committee, said, "I can tell you that many conservative interest groups out there are not sitting on their hands in this election."

Blackwell identified organizations that are pro-gun rights, anti-abortion and anti-union and added that if it were not for the selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate, "a lot of these conservative interest groups would not be involved."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: mccain; swingstates; tossups; undecideds; va2008; virginia
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I just wanted this local paper on Virginia Election News out there as the MSM have Va. painted blue already

Virginia is NOT Blue! If anything undecided's have a McCain chance of a win.

Go Vote! Obama is not winning no matter how many times CNN and MSNBC and the MSM

NEW BREAKING NEWS: of military absentee votes NOT counting in Va. due to 'witness.' not matching or some drummed up horse crap.

The dems MUST HAVE saw they were losing Va.

Va. will be the new Fla. CALL TO ACTION in Va.!

1 posted on 11/02/2008 7:18:33 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08; Corin Stormhands; Maelstorm; kesg; Impy; Norman Bates; fieldmarshaldj; ...

This is a good sign. Another poll shows it too close, also.


2 posted on 11/02/2008 7:20:31 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: McCainPalin_08
The Mason-Dixon poll shows that 11 percent of whites are undecided - far more than usual in the closing week of a statewide election, Coker said. The last time the figure was nearly as high was 1989 in Virginia, when Democrat Doug Wilder was elected the nation's first black governor.

Coker said "almost all" of the undecided white voters broke for Coleman on Election Day; a similar break this year could deliver Virginia's 13 electoral votes to McCain.

3 posted on 11/02/2008 7:21:39 AM PST by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: McCainPalin_08
"But frankly, I'm scared of Obama and some of the things he's been talking about."

That, and that alone, will be why McCain wins this election (if indeed he wins). People are terrified about what Obama will do to this country. The question is, are there enough of them and will they vote.

4 posted on 11/02/2008 7:21:44 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson and Voting for Sarah)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I'm very surprised that VA is tilting towards Obama. Before the 700 Billion Dollar bailout - they were leaning towards McCain (according to RealClearPolitics).

RightWingIt.com

5 posted on 11/02/2008 7:23:06 AM PST by GaryLee1990 (www.RightWingIt.com)
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To: McCainPalin_08
"I'm pretty disappointed in Republicans right now, and I don't think John McCain is offering a lot (GREED) that's new," said Morris, a retired Navy captain who lives in Chesterfield County, a prosperous Richmond suburb. "But frankly, I'm scared (FEAR) of Obama and some of the things he's been talking about."

All savvy stock market players know that FEAR is a much more powerful motivator than GREED. So what does that have to do with the price of tea in China or this election???

Middle America is EXTREMELY FEARFUL OF THE RADICAL MARXIST, whereas Barry's KoolAid drinkers are just greedy.

Middle America will turnout in numbers that will crush the Marxist's hordes.

6 posted on 11/02/2008 7:23:48 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: McCainPalin_08
"The million-dollar question is whether there will be a Wilder/Gantt effect in the 2008 presidential race," Coker said. "No matter what anyone theorizes, the answer today is that no one knows for sure."

Million-dollar question ?

The correct metric is trillions of dollars.

7 posted on 11/02/2008 7:23:59 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson and Voting for Sarah)
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To: AHerald; All

If you want to help with the totals Print up either of these two handouts and pass them around http://www.theusmat.com/


8 posted on 11/02/2008 7:24:47 AM PST by mosesdapoet (This election use your printer n pass out leaflets to tell em the truth we can't afford Obama)
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To: AmericaUnited
Middle America will turnout in numbers that will crush the Marxist's hordes.

My hope too

9 posted on 11/02/2008 7:24:53 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson and Voting for Sarah)
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To: McCainPalin_08

McCain was up 3 in Mason Dixon a month ago and Obama was up 2 in Mason Dixon on 10/21. It’s been within MOE for a very long time. That’s where things are. It’s about turnout in VA.


10 posted on 11/02/2008 7:26:05 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: af_vet_1981
UPDATE

The military absentee ballots WILL BE COUNTED!

Virginia's attorney general stepped in Monday and said all the ballots must be counted under federal law, which trumps the state law. Federal law does not require the address of a witness to be included.

CLICK HERE

I heard this on Fox News wrong. I am sorry I did not realize it has been resolved. THANK GOD!

11 posted on 11/02/2008 7:27:24 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08
Three hundred miles west, in tiny Sugar Grove, a farming and manufacturing community deep in the Appalachians, Blankenbeckler worries that a McCain victory would mean "four more years of kind of dragging along" but that Obama might be "borderline Socialist." Blankenbeckler said he is trying to decide "which is least worst."

Yeah, I bet he is undecided. Does anyone in his right mind think that a "borderline Socialist" would be a better choice? The vast majority of undecideds will go for McCain.

12 posted on 11/02/2008 7:28:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: McCainPalin_08

Talk about a rose colored perspective: Virginia (historically conservative state)Too Close to Call Looks Good for McCain (the conservative candidate)?

Uhhh, right.


13 posted on 11/02/2008 7:29:05 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Clintonfatigued
All electoral maps have Virginia BLUE!

This is not correct!

14 posted on 11/02/2008 7:29:20 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08
I lived in the Pentagon City area of Arlington, VA, for 6 years. Literally a 12 minute Metro ride from downtown DC. Much of NoVa has become a suburb of DC, and libs have been moving in like termites from Maryland. They move from Maryland because everything is taxed at a higher rate, and everything costs more. The irony is that they move in and vote for politicians who would turn Virginia into Maryland.

Last prez candidate to win in VA is LBJ in ‘64. Obama’s Utopian Society would make the Great Society look fiscally conservative.

Obama needs to be defeated in VA.

15 posted on 11/02/2008 7:29:59 AM PST by Chairman of the Bard
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To: McCainPalin_08

This entire election will hang on just how well the “ACORN” wing of the socialist party can succeed in stealing the votes!


16 posted on 11/02/2008 7:30:34 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Don Corleone

McCain will win VA.

And for the “experts” quoted in the article, I give you this:

``He really will need a miracle to win, and the last miracle was for Harry S. Truman,” Sabato said in an interview after his speech. Truman pulled his upset presidential victory in 1948.”

And who was good ‘ole Liberal Larry speaking of? No, not McCain, but Bush- in 2004.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0808-07.htm


17 posted on 11/02/2008 7:32:41 AM PST by rumrunner
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To: VaBthang4
One word, polls

Pollsters (that everyone is trusting to call the election for Obama as CNN did in 00) have people hanging up and uncooperative because they do not want to be called 'a racist'.

Another word ACORN.

Another word

UNDECIDED'S are all white.

18 posted on 11/02/2008 7:33:05 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: McCainPalin_08
Three hundred miles west, in tiny Sugar Grove, a farming and manufacturing community deep in the Appalachians, Blankenbeckler worries that a McCain victory would mean "four more years of kind of dragging along" but that Obama might be "borderline Socialist." Blankenbeckler said he is trying to decide "which is least worst."

IMHO.....I believe there are a lot of people in the same boat....although, personally, I already know who is the worst of the lot....by a long shot...
19 posted on 11/02/2008 7:36:41 AM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: McCainPalin_08

I couldn’t believe my eyes when they put VA blue instead of as up for grabs. Are they kidding? It’s not like Webb beat Allen in a rout, so what gives?!


20 posted on 11/02/2008 7:36:59 AM PST by EdnaMode
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