Posted on 10/31/2008 4:44:35 PM PDT by justlurking
The Department of Health has released a statement about Senator Barack Obama's official birth certificate.
There have been talk among some chat rooms that Senator Obama was not born in Hawaii, or even America for that matter, and therefore is ineligible to run for the office of President.
There have been various requests for copies of his Hawaii birth certificate to the Department of Health, all which have to be turned down.
"State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," said DOH Director Chiyome Fukino.
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
Fukino adds that no state leaders, including Governor Lingle, has asked the certificate be handled in any way different from any one else's vital records in state possession.
But he doesnt have to be an American citizen to be a senator..
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yes I meant he doesnt have to be born in the states...
Arnold was not and he is CA Gov...
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I took the "/" out of the end of the address, and it just put it back and gave the same error message.
Eenteresting, but scary.
Fair enough, but play this scenario out.
You devote a lot of energy and noise to force Obama's hand to release his Birth Certificate. IF it shows he's not a citizen (i.e., no real Birth Certificate exists) - Gooooooaaaalllll! ... But if not, and it shows aberrations along the lines that he was a bastard, or he has stranger middle names, etc -- all you've done is illicit sympathy. This seems like a 'don't throw me in the brier patch' ploy. And regarding: "Everything else is speculation about what he might or might not do"... We know the following:
Mr. Obama has an unnatural zeal for infanticide.
Mr. Obama was a member of a 'blasphemous' church for 20 years.
Mr. Obama supports homosexual 'marriages'.
Mr. Obama supports socialist (and arguably marxist) financial policies.
Mr. Obama will pack the Supreme Court with activists who aren't constrained by the Constitution.
These are the issues to hammer home.
I agree that it IS a major issue IF Mr. Obama is not a citizen -- but this has the look and feel of a setup from the Obama camp to me, and I'm staying away from it.
You may be on to something, gidget. IIRC, he has few aliases; Barry Dunham and Barry Soetoro are the only ones I can think of at the moment.
There are some in Africa that say his name is Barack Hussein Mohammad Obama.
I also read somewhere that HE changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama when HE was 19 y/o. Perhaps he did that after he attended the terrorist training camp in Pakistan in 1980? Or it could be he was just taking a muslim name when he renewed his muslim faith? Remember when Cassius Clay became Mohammad Ali when he converted to islam?
So, would the real Obamassiah, please step forward.
And bring the certified, vault copy of your birth certificate with you.
I AM America, you do not speak for me.
That would be best, although the issue still needs to be settled as to who can challenge the eligibility of a candidate for the Presidency.
But things aren't looking real great, not catastrophically so, yet, as far as sending him back to Illinois, or at least the Senate chamber and offices. He does have two more years as a Senator, unless he gets elected President that is.
So we need to explore *every* avenue to keep him from taking office in January. Every legal avenue.
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Yeah, thats what happens when the files all get deleted. I'm afraid he was hacked.
LOL! Keep up the good work my FRiend!
It can be a sealed certificate, as in the case of an adoptee, for whom a new cert has been issued in the new name.
My wife can NOT obtain her own original Birth Certificate, because she was adopted, at which time a new Certificate of Live Birth was issued with her adoptive parents listed as parents.
Believe me, a BC and a COLB are two VERY different animals legally. We went through Hell getting her a passport with the one, instead of the other. She even had problems years ago getting her California cosmetology license.
To complicate matters, it was only an aunt's offhand caustic remark after her parents were already deceased that gave a hint of adoption. We mentioned it to the trust attorney, and he said, “well, you WERE adopted; but that has no bearing on matters of the estate.” Huh?!? “Oh, you didn't know? Gee, all your aunts and uncles knew you were adopted as an infant; no one ever told you?” DUH!
Without the consent of the parties to the adoption, all she can get is the certified COLB; and since they are dead; and the papers not extant as to the birth mother, etc, that permission or proof of their death doesn't exist; not even the name of the attorney or whoever facilitated the adoption. The COLB lists a place and date of birth; but whether the location is correct or not, we have no idea; we assume the date is correct.
I suspect there may be similar difficulties with Obummer.
010641 is a sequential number of the record when processed. The lower the number, the earlier in the year someone is born and given a certification number.
We don't know what he saw on his original birth sertificate. On it, Barack Obama could be listed as Barry Soetoro, and it still would qualify as his original`birth certificate, since they mzake name changes all of the time
What about one of the judges on the Hawaii State Supreme Court, or the secretary of State?
THEY CAN GET COLBs'
In 1961 the Certificate of Live Birth document for the State of Hawaii was identified by a data point label File No. and was in the format of 151 61 0xxxx. A total of ten digits, not thirteen.
A child could be born elsewhere A child could be born elsewhere, and his/her parents register his/her birth in Hawaii. The registration would state exactly where the child was born.
Exactly. For instance, my own birth certificate, registered in one state, contains the names of my adoptive parents, but lists another city and state as my actual birth place.
The Attendant's Certification block reads:
I certify that I attended this birth and that the child was born alive on the date stated above.
It is filled in with one hand written word -- STATE
That is what I think Obama is protecting. The registration of his birth — which I believe shows he was born in Keyna.
My thoughts exactly.
True, but the requirements for CA governor can be whatever CA has in it's Constitution, which turns out to be:
The Governor shall be an elector who has been a citizen of the United States and a resident of this State for 5 years immediately preceding the Governor's election.
Article 5, Section 2, California Constitution.
The only federal requirment is that she/he take and oath to support the Constitution of the United States.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Article VI, 3rd paragraph, Constitution for the United States of America.
Yes, and the legal constitutional requirement to be POTUS.
Yes, a name change will not keep him from being qualified to be POTUS...
Nor will illegitimacy or a foreign Dad...
But unless he was actually BORN on US soil he is not eligible to be president of the United States...
See my post 176. I was older when I was adopted and know that the Date, City and State are the only correct items on my "original" birth certificate.
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