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Will Confusion Cause Prop. 8 problems?
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 30, 2008 | Jessica Garrison

Posted on 10/30/2008 9:05:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Speaking out recently against Proposition 8, the proposed constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage, former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown made an appeal for the importance of protecting the rights of same-sex couples.

And then he urged his audience to vote yes on the proposition. Brown misspoke. He intended to advocate a no vote. But he isn’t alone in confusing which side is which. As election day nears, both supporters and opponents of Proposition 8 worry that voters will be confused by a choice that can seem counterintuitive: Voting no on the initiative means voting yes on gay marriage, while voting yes means gay marriage would be disallowed.

“There is confusion on both sides over yes meaning no and no meaning yes,” said West Hollywood City Councilman John Duran, who is helping campaign for No on 8. He added, jokingly, that he has heard supporters of the proposition say, “I’m opposed to gay marriage, so I’m voting no, and I’m like, ‘Yes, vote no.’”

In recent days, both campaigns have taken steps to educate their faithful to make sure they vote the right way.

Read the rest of the story here.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008election; california; heterosexualagenda; homosexualagenda; jessicagarrison; losangelestimes; moralabsolutes; moralrelativism; noon8; prop8; proposition8; protectmarriage; queerlybeloved; samesexmarriage; traditionalmarriage

1 posted on 10/30/2008 9:05:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The queerly beloved and the Democrats are confused. We know what a YES on 8 vote means. They haven't figured out yet how to make same sex marriage palatable to California voters!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 10/30/2008 9:07:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway

If someone is so ignorant, illiterate, and disinterested that they cannot read the initiative and understand the meaning of their vote, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote.


3 posted on 10/30/2008 9:09:01 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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I really don’t think the “yes” voters are confused. They know full well what their votes mean.


4 posted on 10/30/2008 9:10:00 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: nickcarraway

Only liberals are going to make that mistake.

It ain’t rocket science for crying out loud.


5 posted on 10/30/2008 9:25:02 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the polling gods and whimper. FIGHT!)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

“If someone is so ignorant, illiterate, and disinterested that they cannot read the initiative and understand the meaning of their vote, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote.”

Much less hold the offices of Mayor or Governor. The State of Kalifornica has been ill served by so many officials.


6 posted on 10/30/2008 9:38:48 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Vote YES on 8 and tell all your friends. family, strangers, acquaintances to VOTE YES ON 8.

~ All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. ~
Edmund Burk

~ All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. ~
Edmund Burk


7 posted on 10/30/2008 9:46:24 PM PDT by PrayAndVoteConservesInLibsOut
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To: nickcarraway

Confusion is the reason two men or two women think the can be ‘married.’


8 posted on 10/30/2008 9:46:43 PM PDT by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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To: informavoracious

the can=they can


9 posted on 10/30/2008 9:47:45 PM PDT by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

No kidding. With the amount of yard signs, bumper stickers, and literature in the mail that we’ve seen on Prop. 8...if you don’t know what you’re voting for, you’re an idiot.


11 posted on 10/30/2008 9:51:22 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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Florida has a marriage amendment too—why do we keep hearing about Prop 8. Is it because we’re ignorant, bigoted Southerners who are expected to ban gay marriage while if enlightened Californians ban it it will be a slap in the face to the elites of that state?


12 posted on 10/30/2008 9:51:28 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I really don’t think the “yes” voters are confused. They know full well what their votes mean.

I wish that were true, but with my own ears I've heard folks say things like, "I'm voting 'no' on that. Gay marriage is wrong."
13 posted on 10/31/2008 1:51:18 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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If someone is so ignorant, illiterate, and disinterested that they cannot read the initiative and understand the meaning of their vote, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

Agree 100%. We need to make it HARDER to vote, not easier. We need informed voters, not those bought off with packs of cigarettes.

I suppose the nation survived the 60s so it'll survive the 2000-teens as well.

14 posted on 10/31/2008 3:33:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: YES on PROP 4. *** MCCAIN-PALIN ***)
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Because FL doesn’t already have gay marriages and CA does. The FL action is only further codifying existing practice in the state.


15 posted on 10/31/2008 3:43:35 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: YES on PROP 4. *** MCCAIN-PALIN ***)
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To: irishjuggler
I wish that were true, but with my own ears I've heard folks say things like, "I'm voting 'no' on that. Gay marriage is wrong."

I've even heard such confusion from posters on THIS site.

Just read the proposed amendment and answer appropriately. Duh!!

16 posted on 10/31/2008 3:41:58 PM PDT by fwdude
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