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much of what he had to say was well within the mainstream of European social democracy
Yeah he is not Anti-American, Øbama is just Pro-European Social Democracy
One new item (at least to me) in this material is the fact that he was a community organizer in Harlem, NYC, presumably while he was at Columbia, which I hadn’t heard before.
He said, "We are five days away from fundamentally changing the United States of America."
All the people cheered wildly.
good post
“Barack Obama observed that Martin Luther King’s March on Washington in the 1960s wasn’t simply about civil rights but demanded jobs as well. Now the issue is again coming to the front, but he wished the issue was on the Democratic agenda not just on Buchanan’s.
One of the themes that has emerged in Barack Obama’s campaign is “what does it take to create productive communities”, not just consumptive communities. It is an issue that joins some of the best instincts of the conservatives with the better instincts of the left. He felt the state government has three constructive roles to play.
The first is “human capital development”. By this he meant public education, welfare reform, and a “workforce preparation strategy”. Public education requires equality in funding. It’s not that money is the only solution to public education’s problems but it’s a start toward a solution. The current proposals for welfare reform are intended to eliminate welfare but it’s also true that the status quo is not tenable. A true welfare system would provide for medical care, child care and job training. While Barack Obama did not use this term, it sounded very much like the “social wage” approach used by many social democratic labor parties. By “workforce preparation strategy”, Barack Obama simply meant a coordinated, purposeful program of job training instead of the ad hoc, fragmented approach used by the State of Illinois today.
The state government can also play a role in redistribution, the allocation of wages and jobs. As Barack Obama noted, when someone gets paid $10 million to eliminate 4,000 jobs, the voters in his district know this is an issue of power not economics. The government can use as tools labor law reform, public works and contracts.
Finally, Illinois needs an industrial strategy. How do we create more jobs for everyone? Illinois has no strategy for encouraging high wage, high productivity jobs.”
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html
Another nail in the coffin?
Did I miss the segment where Sean Hannity discussed 0bama and the Democratic Socialists of America/New Party?
Did I miss Rush’s monologue on it?
Did I miss Greta’s exposé or the FNC weekend special on 0bama’s membership to the DSA?
Did I miss Sarah Palin and John McCain laying into 0bama about this on the campaign trail?
Is there a reason why they’ve all gone on extensively about every little detail of Bill Ayers, down to what he ate for breakfast, but not even a peep about 0bama’s way more relevant direct, personal affiliation with a hard left group that even has SOCIALIST in its name?
Has no one bothered to tell any of them?
http://www.jjraymond.com/political/articles/obama112004.html
Article Archives (11-4-2004)
Barak Obama, the dark Bobby?
As I sit here absorbing the disaster that was November 2, 2004, I see only one bright star on the horizon for progressive politics in the United States--the star's name is Barak Obama. Hillary Clinton--too polarizing, no real power in her presence (Bill has it, she doesn't). Howard Dean--could he really be trusted not to have another screaming fit? Bill Richardson--too tainted by the meltdown in safeguarding nuclear classified information during his tenure at the Energy Department. Unless Ben Affleck is going to run against Arnold Schwarzenegger for California governor in 2006 (Daredevil against the Terminator .. I'd love it!), Obama is the only true star on the horizon of the left-leaning political sky. It's not just the handsome smile and pleasant manner of connecting with others. The man has vision. He speaks of oneness, of compassion, of basic rights, of hard work, of personal responsibility.fn1 Since Bobby Kennedy, only two national politicians in our country have effectively conveyed similar ideals--Bill Clinton and Colin Powell. Powell jumped in bed with the Bushies checking his balls at the door on the way in. Bill's gone to pasture. I have left Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern off my list due to the qualifier of "effectively conveyed" although a good argument can be made to the contrary for Humphrey (he gave Nixon a hard run for his money in '68).
Obama's record is thin so one must pause to wonder what sort of senator he shall be. There will be strong pressures from the old-guard African-American leadership that he join their coalition (as a junior partner). A digression at this point is in order. In 2000 Obama ran against incumbent Bobby Rush (a former Black Panther) for a congressional seat located on the south side of Chicago. Rush's basic campaign thrust was that Obama wasn't black enough. See New Republic article 5-24-04. Obama lost by a two-to-one margin to Rush. He had worked as a civil rights lawyer out of law school and been active as a state legislator in civil rights issues; however, he appears to have two strikes against him with the old guard: (a) his white mother and (b) his father was from Africa, not the descendant of US slaves. The story is significant for this reason: Obama didn't stand and wait his turn for higher political office behind the backs of the civil rights old guard. He challenged a black panther in South Chicago.
In January of 2005, as the highest elected African-American official in the United States, the national media will come knocking at his door seeking comments with every perceived "black issue" in the news. Shall Barak Obama become the de facto leader of the black caucus or shall he instead cast his net broadly, inclusively? There's pent up progressive energy in this country, a backlash against the Bush / neocon co-opting of the country's agenda at home and abroad. Obama, if he so chooses, could step in and lead this rudderless, unformed mass of true patriots. What will it be Barak? A thinner, better looking, more educated version of Al Sharpton or a dark complected Bobby Kennedy? Our country needs the dark Bobby.
JJR
11-4-2004
I found that a month ago on Google 2001, then I saw it reproduced on a website, might have Ace or Gateway, you need the research to back it up, a recording, at this point the only thing that will further damage Obama is video or audio.
These groups are immersed in espionage.. from their toes to their heads..
A report from the March-April 1996 newsletter of the Chicago Democratic Socialists of America describes the aforementioned event:
A Town Meeting on Economic Insecurity: Employment and Survival in Urban America
By Bob Roman
Over three hundred people attended the first of two Town Meetings on Economic Insecurity on February 25 in Ida Noyes Hall at the University of Chicago. Entitled “Employment and Survival in Urban America”, the meeting was sponsored by the UofC DSA Youth Section, Chicago DSA and University Democrats. The panelists were Toni Preckwinkle, Alderman of Chicago’s 4th Ward; Barack Obama, candidate for the 13th Illinois Senate District; Professor William Julius Wilson, Center for the Study of Urban Inequality at the University of Chicago; Professor Michael Dawson, University of Chicago; and Professor Joseph Schwartz, Temple University and a member of DSA’s National Political Committee.
Video: Interview From Barack Obama’s 2000 Campaign Against Bobby Rush
While Obama has won some campaigns, he had a loss as well. There is some new archive footage up of an interview he did during his 2000 unsuccessful primary campaign against Bobby Rush in Illinois. RichSamuels.com has exclusive footage.
Realplayer is required for the video.
Watch the Intro here.
Watch Obama talk about how he differs from the other candidates here. Watch Obama talk about his rival’s claims about his inexperience here. What we have here, America, is a candidate who clearly has not been flip-flopping. What he said and stood for then, he’s still saying today!
It’s been posted by Freeper Columbo before: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2104416/posts
It’s important to post again though! I can’t understand why Rush etc. don’t address this.
I think New Ground 45 has the original report on the talk Obama gave. It’s the closest thing we have to a transcript unfortunately:
“Barack Obama observed that Martin Luther King’s March on Washington in the 1960s wasn’t simply about civil rights but demanded jobs as well. Now the issue is again coming to the front, but he wished the issue was on the Democratic agenda not just on Buchanan’s.
One of the themes that has emerged in Barack Obama’s campaign is “what does it take to create productive communities”, not just consumptive communities. It is an issue that joins some of the best instincts of the conservatives with the better instincts of the left. He felt the state government has three constructive roles to play.
The first is “human capital development”. By this he meant public education, welfare reform, and a “workforce preparation strategy”. Public education requires equality in funding. It’s not that money is the only solution to public education’s problems but it’s a start toward a solution. The current proposals for welfare reform are intended to eliminate welfare but it’s also true that the status quo is not tenable. A true welfare system would provide for medical care, child care and job training. While Barack Obama did not use this term, it sounded very much like the “social wage” approach used by many social democratic labor parties. By “workforce preparation strategy”, Barack Obama simply meant a coordinated, purposeful program of job training instead of the ad hoc, fragmented approach used by the State of Illinois today.
The state government can also play a role in redistribution, the allocation of wages and jobs. As Barack Obama noted, when someone gets paid $10 million to eliminate 4,000 jobs, the voters in his district know this is an issue of power not economics. The government can use as tools labor law reform, public works and contracts.”
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng45.html
What is interesting is that it was four years later that they still remembered Obama’s speech and praised him for it in New Ground 69.
been posted several times, but keep the message out
“NEW information about Obama’s socialism”
Pun intended. Haha! Well done, FRiend. Maybe people will see ‘now’?