Posted on 10/30/2008 7:06:07 PM PDT by goldstategop
Polls continue to slide for No on Prop 8 Equity for All, as reports leak out that the campaigns management structure is in utter disarray. A series of orchestrated, factually false press statements have been issued alleging the sky will fall if Proposition 8 passes on Tuesday.
Clearly, this is nothing more than a floundering campaign grasping at straws to save its effort, said Chip White, Protectmarriage.com Yes on 8 campaign spokesman. Its quite sad because those who are hurt most are voters. We invited the No on Prop 8 campaign to debate Proposition 8 this weekend in a live, televised format, but it declined our invitation. If the No campaign is so confident in its arguments, why refuse the debate?
Claims reporting Proposition 8 has nothing to do with schools, to Proposition 8 will cause a high-tech brain drain, are being passed off as fact. These claims are nothing but noisy rhetoric and last minute campaign stunts aimed at confusing voters instead of educating them.
Claim One: Proposition 8 has nothing to do with schools.
Truth: A few weeks ago children in a 1st grade class attended their teachers gay wedding in San Francisco on a school-organized field trip. The principal called it a teachable moment. That sure sounds like same-sex marriage instruction in schools.
This week kindergartners at Faith Ringgold School of Arts and Science in Hayward, CA, were asked to sign pledge cards saying they would not use anti-LGBT language. Parents who felt their children were far too young for such a discussion, most at an average age of 5 who are just learning the basics of reading and writing, were not permitted to opt-out, but instead had to keep their children home from school.
As we have clearly demonstrated, California Education Code Section 51933 states schools shall teach respect for marriage and committed relationships. According to the California Department of Education website, 96% of schools teach this curriculum. And under the Supreme Courts ruling, current California law means teaching about marriage includes instruction on gay marriage. Thus, gay marriage is already part of the curriculum. Perhaps because of these simple facts, Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack OConnell refuses to debate..
Claim Two: Proposition 8 would have no effect on a churchs tax-exempt status.
Truth: The No on 8 campaign used a classic lawyer trick, rolled out a group of lawyers yesterday to falsely state our concern about the impact of same sex marriage on religious freedoms, and then saying our concerns are false. For the record, the Yes on 8 campaign has never said that churches, acting as churches, would be forced to perform gay marriages. However, it is clear that where churches interact with the public square, in providing social services or even conducting business, their tax exempt status is at risk.
In one well publicized case, Catholic Charities in Boston ran adoption facilities that managed 700 cases since 1987, most involving children with special needs. Catholic Charities placed such children into parents in traditional marriages, according to their faith. After gay marriage was legalized in Massachusetts, the state told Catholic Charities it had to place children with gay marriage couples as well. Faced with such a decision, Catholic Charities reluctantly decided to stop providing adoption services.
Another religious non-profit, Ocean Grove Campground in New Jersey, lost a portion of its tax-exempt status on a rental pavilion because it refused to rent the facility to a lesbian couple for a civil commitment ceremony.
Claim Three: Proposition 8 discriminates against gays and lesbians.
Truth: Under Californias current domestic partnership law, (Family Code Section 297), gay couples are awarded the same legal rights and privileges as married couples. California has the strongest civil union/domestic partnership law in the nation, and Proposition 8 does not take away any of those rights.
Claim Four: If Proposition 8 passes there will be a brain drain to gay-friendly Massachusetts.
Truth: Gay marriage has been legal in Massachusetts for five years and California still remains the epicenter of technology, biomed and other science-based industries. If a gay brain-drain was going to happen, shouldnt it have started 5 years ago?
The claims being disseminated by the No on 8 campaign are preposterous, said White, and have no basis in fact. We realize the No on 8 has a new team that has to justify their hiring, but cheap campaign stunts and false claims do not serve the public.
Calif. is so in the tank for Obama “the one” that prop 8 gives us a little hope. We have spent many hours calling voters asking them to vote yes.
Pretty hard to compete with the money being donated to the “No on 8” bunch who get their money from companies like Apple, Google, the teachers unions and Hollywood celebs.
If we win it will be because we are on the Lord’s side.
I don't know why the Left is so worried here. If they loose I bet it isn't a week before some sympathetic judge throw out the results and forces his will on the voters,That's exactly why we're voting on Prop 8. It defines marriage in the state constitution.
We already had a majority vote defining marriage but it wasn't constitutional and republican appointed judges overturned it.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
OK, haven't been paying that much attention to the race. Haven't had much concern for California since I moved out of the place. ;)
Good luck! Don't turn your back on the lawyers, trust me, they already have plans...
Haven't had much concern for California since I moved out of the place. ;)They have plans for you too. You can run but you can't hide.Good luck! Don't turn your back on the lawyers, trust me, they already have plans...
Claim Four: If Proposition 8 passes there will be a brain drain to gay-friendly Massachusetts.
I'm so scared.
Locked & loaded. ;)
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
The “black clergy” our local media trot out are the usual suspects, like San Francisco’s Amos Brown, in opposition to Prop 8.
BTTT
I did not know and am sorry for your loss. Those who are gay deserve human dignity, respect, and kindness. That does not mean, however, that they have the right to change a fundamental tradition of civilization, which has worked well for thousands of years. A mom and dad raising children is the best thing for society.
I heard that one, too. She’s trying to come off like the voice of reason. She’ll probably be effective with some doubtful Dems.
The Corrupt Feinstein needs to get the boot during her next reelection run.
Just as long as their booties go along with their brains, let massachusetts have them.
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