Posted on 10/29/2008 9:35:59 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
Video here. Feel the edge of electric excitement as you get to stand in the shoes of good Pennsylvania people welcoming political phenomenon Sarah Palin.
Your "dismay" might be grounded in ignorance. (not meant to be tacky) Would you please define your definitions of "religious right" and give a few instances of why you --and "many, many others," are dismayed.
The reason I'm curious is that I am constantly being accused of being part of the "religious right" by a liberal friend---and I don't even go to church.
So...just what is "the religious right?"
I think the term “religious right” has come, in some circles, to equate with “highly socially conservative.”
I’m socially moderate, but fiscally very conservative. I think we tax WAY too much and spend WAY too much on defense and many other areas of the federal budget. Thus, my default home is the Republican Party, though I find some of the extreme social conservatism to be rather hard to stomach sometimes.
Palin confirmed to me that McCain was serious.
Lets raise a toast to the next President, John McCain.
So, only the words written in RED, in the King James Version of the Bible are the words of the Lord Our God? What about the Old Testament and the words from all His Prophets?
God's Prophets!
MC, you are already on such shaky ground that you better duck underneath your desk before the ceiling falls on your head.
Quix, not sure if you're still up or have school tomorrow but my head is splitting and this imposter Christian needs to be done away with.
I say imposter as an opinion. The Lord knows the heart. Good night all.
“Give me a good, old-fashioned Goldwater Republican, please, and keep the religious right out of politics.”
She hasn’t pressed or pushed her religion. Not nearly what Bush or even Clinton did. Or Obama for that matter.
That’s an excuse, not a reason to dislike her.
“and the people in the church I have chosen do not spew derision on people of other faiths or people “
Except if you can bash Sarah Palin unfairly, evidently.
“Let me expand on that, a little:Sarah is the future. If McCain had picked anyone else, I would have been tempted to not even vote, and let America “get what she wants so bad.” Good & Hard. People get the kind of government they want, and deserve. McCain is the past (and so is Barry- communism is so passe’ ) but he sees the future- and that’s her.”
Indeed, backhoe.
“They do not need to be persecuted, condemned, and ridiculed for these feelings, however, and no true follower of Christ’s teachings would engage in these judgmental behaviors.”
Strange how they always seem to start the ‘persecuting, condemning and ridiculing’ first though, isn’t it? I don’t defend people who start it, but then you’re probably a better Christian than I. There are two kinds of people in church. Saints and Sinners. I know what I am, most people don’t.
I know Deb, fairly well. Her post was in reference to the fact that she believes people aren’t permitted to have some opinions different than the rest of us. It had nothing to do with her opinion about homosexuality.
Am tired.
Just finally got the Obama stuff off to my email list.
Will check the thread.
Blessings,
“Hatred and intolerance”.
Those are the watchwords of the “gay” agenda; and indeed, every leftist social cause.
I hate vice, and I am intolerant of those who promote vice as being equal to virtue. I abhor promoting the nasty idea that vice should be tolerated, it is destroying individuals, families, nations and civilization.
Hatred and intolerance have their rightful place. To not hate evil is itself a great evil. Tolerating the promotion of evil is a great evil.
Yes, watchwords of leftists. Makes me very suspicious about you.
I'll gladly vote for her. BTW: Goldwater is dead. And so is, unfortunately, our beloved Ronald Reagan - who I have no doubt, if he were still with us, would be just as enamored with Sarah as we are.
And, i know who I am, a sad and penitent sinner, who has no right to judge another. We all fall so short, and it is so much easier to focus on another’s sin, than face our own.
! really don’t know why God puts up with any of us. We do not deserve it, and I know you know what I mean.
MC,
I’m not at all in agreement with most of your points.
I have no need to bash homosexuals. They need compassion where at all fitting.
However, a good percentage of them have seemingly willfully placed their wills wholesale in the direction of the demonized influences about them. I’m skeptical short of a Damascus Road sort of experience, many of those will ever be delivered.
I believe all the noise equivocating about Scripture is just that—rationalized noise.
God is quite clear in the Old and New Testament that homosexual relations and attractions are horrific IN HIS EYES—and cause for giving folks over to depraved minds in all that that implies and means.
One can argue with God hypothetically here in this time/space dimension to some degree depending on what HE ALLOWS. There’s coming a day when EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE CONFESS THAT JESUS IS LORD—AND BY INFERENCE, THAT HIS PRIORITIES ARE BOTH LAW AND LOVE.
It is clear to all with eyes to see and ears to hear that Paul penned much of God’s New Testament Word. Anyone truly seeking God’s face and LOVING HIM FIRST AND FOREMOST KNOWS THAT. Those who wish to quibble are not focusing on God first and foremost or they’d know HIS HEART on such matters.
I know from a lot of perspectives professional and otherwise the insideousness of homosexual thoughts, feelings and activities and their impacts on individuals, relationships and families. I’m not without compassion about such.
However, the notion that Christians who claim to Love God and His ways first and foremost AND others as self—would tolerate for one minute the ABJECT INDOCTRINATION OF INNOCENT CHILDREN INTO ANYTHING THAT WOULD VIOLATE GOD’S STANDARDS FOR LIFE; AS WELL AS SHORTEN THEIR LIVES BY 20 YEARS ON AVERAGE . . .
AND THEN DARE TO CALL THAT LOVING . . .
we are not dealing with the same dictionary on the same planet and definitely not putting the same GOD ALMIGHTY FIRST IN OUR LIVES.
I don’t know that I have a lot else to add, really.
That said, AuntB, we still need to pay attention to our sins/mistakes as humans. The fact that we all fall short of the mark doesn’t mean that the mark is wrong.
We must keep sight of the goal, try to do better, aim closer, and never lower the standards. Even as we pray for for forgiveness of our trespasses, and those of others.
We must not forget what these trespasses are, however!
Hope you'll reconsider when that time comes.
The media has gone out of its way to corner her, at the same time giving a pass to 0bama and Biden. For as many people that are turned off by Palin, there are many, many more who are energized by her. You don't have to agree, and you don't have to like her. It is, at least until Inauguration Day, still a free country.
“So, only the words written in RED, in the King James Version of the Bible are the words of the Lord Our God? What about the Old Testament and the words from all His Prophets?”
Those prophets are human and fallible. Jesus is divine. So, yes, I do think Jesus accounts for more than Paul of Tarsus. Do you disagree? Do you worship Paul?
“MC, you are already on such shaky ground that you better duck underneath your desk before the ceiling falls on your head.”
You’re the one claiming that Paul of Tarsus is equivalent to Jesus Christ. Talk about blasphemy. I pray that God himself does not smite you.
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