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Job and Family Services made several checks on Joe the Plumber (New Info Today; Employee Fired)
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | October 29, 2008 | Randy Ludlow

Posted on 10/29/2008 3:29:29 PM PDT by buccaneer81

Job and Family Services made several checks on Joe the Plumber Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:56 PM By Randy Ludlow The Columbus Dispatch Document

* Read the letter from Helen Jones-Kelley, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, about background checks made on Joe the Plumber [pdf]

Multiple checks on "Joe the Plumber" were made through state computer systems at the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services.

Agency Director Helen Jones-Kelley disclosed early this evening that computer inquiries on the presidential campaign figure were not restricted to a child-support system.

The department also checked on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher in its computer systems to determine if he was receiving welfare or owed unemployment compensation taxes.

Jones-Kelley made the revelations in a letter sent to Ohio Senate President Bill M. Harris, R-Ashland, who yesterday demanded answers on why state officials checked out Wurzelbacher.

The checks were run after the news media reported that Wurzelbacher was considering buying a plumbing business with more than $250,000 in annual income, Jones-Kelley wrote.

"Given our understanding that Mr. Wurzelbacher had publicly indicated that he had the means to purchase a substantial business enterprise, ODJFS, consistent with past departmental practice, checked confidential databases ," she wrote.

"Not surprisingly, when a person behind in child support payments or receiving public assistance is receiving significant media attention which suggests that the person appears to have available financial resources, the Department risks justifiable criticism if it fails to take note and respond," Jones-Kelley wrote.

Wurzelbacher said he is not involved in a child-support case and has not purchased any business.

Wurzelbacher became a household name when Republican presidential John McCain frequently referred to "Joe the Plumber" during his Oct. 15 debate with Democrat nominee Barack Obama. The checks began the next day.

Wurzelbacher, who has endorsed and campaigned for McCain, had been caught on videotape challenging Obama about his tax proposals during a campaign visit to "Joe's" neighborhood in the Toledo suburb of Holland.

Republicans have painted the checks on Wurzelbacher as a politically motivated bid by Democrats to dig up dirt and discredit the McCain ally.

The administration of Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland has said the information was not improperly shared and that there were no political motives behind the checks.

The Dispatch has uncovered four uses of state computer systems to access personal information on Wurzelbacher, including the child-support check authorized by Jones-Kelley.

She said that her department frequently runs checks for any unpaid child support obligations "when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight."

Jones-Kelley cited as an example a check that revealed a lottery winner owed child support. State law explicitly allows such checks in order to temporarily intercept lottery winnings in excess of $600 from those who owe child support.

Republican legislators have challenged Jones-Kelley's reason for checking on Wurzelbacher as "frightening" and flimsy.

The department has not responded to public-records requests to provide a copy of its policies concerning access to child-support information.

Jones-Kelly also has denied any connections between the computer checks on Wurzelbacher and her support for Obama. She donated the maximum $2,500 this year to the Obama campaign.

Ohio Inspector General Thomas P. Charles is investigating whether the Department of Jobs and Family Services child-support check on Wurzelbacher was legal.

Checks on "Joe the Plumber" through Bureau of Motor Vehicles computers were conducted through accounts assigned to the Toledo Police Department and Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency in Cleveland.

The Toledo Police Department has charged a civilian clerk with misusing her access to BMV computers to provide information to a Toledo TV station.

The Cuyahoga County child-support case was tracked to an employee's computer, but he has denied accessing Wurzelbacher's information.

A third illegal access to BMV information on "Joe" was tracked to an attorney general's office test account that was shared four years ago with contractors who developed a statewide police computer network.

One of those contract employees apparently still had access to the account after he was hired as a contractor to work at the Ohio Department of Insurance, where he allegedly tapped Wurzelbacher's information after the presidential debate.

Within one hour after learning of the breach on Oct. 20 and tracking it to the contract employee, he was fired and escorted out of state offices, said an insurance department spokesman.

The State Highway Patrol is conducting a criminal investigation of the incident.

McCain has described the checks on Wurzelbacher as retaliation for asking Obama tax-related questions that led to the candidate's "spread the wealth" statement.

Wurzelbacher said yesterday he has contacted a lawyer, but has not decided whether to file lawsuits against those who rummaged through his records.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: brownshirts; democrats; fascism; gestapo; govwatch; joetheplumber; stateemployees
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To: GOP_Lady
Just to clarify here, she was not the employee who was fired, but the case is under investigation.

Correct. And since the person fired was a contractor, they had no civil service or union protection. They're gone in five minutes.

21 posted on 10/29/2008 3:45:41 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: GOP_Lady
Just to clarify here, she was not the employee who was fired, but the case is under investigation.

Yeah, they fired an outside contractor, someone who 'is not one of them'.

It's a good start though, Joe ought to give it a little time, and if they don't do anything more, move in with civil suits.

I've always be disgusted that the LaCross team didn't go in and ruin a bunch of their accusors. It would have improved our culture, and I think they let us down.

22 posted on 10/29/2008 3:45:49 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Random Access

I am a black, hyphenated female, conservative, pro-life, with a McCain/Palin sign (which has been kicked down twice) proudly perched in my front yard... now what? I hate when people paint everyone with the same broad brush.


23 posted on 10/29/2008 3:46:01 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!! future moose killer!!!)
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To: jocon307
Our side has got to start playing smash mouth AT ALL TIMES.

Bump! Street fighting, not Marquis of Queensbury rules.
24 posted on 10/29/2008 3:46:11 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: mware

LOL! Excellent!


25 posted on 10/29/2008 3:46:32 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Clock King

Sounds good to me.


26 posted on 10/29/2008 3:46:58 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Oh, I know some very good lawyers. :-)


27 posted on 10/29/2008 3:47:02 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: buccaneer81

So a guy wins a million bucks in the lottery and they run a check to see if he owes Child Support. Then a guy asks obama a question and gets “thrust into the lime light” and gets the same treatment. I wonder if a guy in a bad car wreck and is on the front page gets the same treament. Give me a break.


28 posted on 10/29/2008 3:47:09 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: buccaneer81

EVERYTHING that Jones-Kelley stated what justified several searches on Mr. Wurzelbacher are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!!!!!

Mr. Wurzelbacher was a lottery winner.
Mr. Wurzelbacher was not actively applying for any loan.
Mr. Wurzelbacher was not identified as a person of interest in any known act of crime.
Mr. Wurzelbacher was not identified as a perpitrator of any known act of crime.
Mr. Wurzelbacher was not acting suspiciously in any manner whatsoever to justify is unconstitutional invasion of his privacy.

All that Mr. Wurzelbacher did was to ask Hussein a legitimate and unprovoking question after Hussein singled Joe out for a question.

Just because that someone is thrown into the public spotlight does not warrant searches on gov’t databases. There was nothing that Mr. Wurzelbacher did to warrant that. He was a citizen that asked a simple question.

Jones-Kelly needs to be fired NOW as well as any of her minions who violated Mr. Wurzelbacher’s civil rights.


29 posted on 10/29/2008 3:47:34 PM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: buccaneer81
Forget plumbing Joe, get the meanest lawyer you can find and the sharpest financial adviser...

"CAUSE YOU'VE HIT THE JACKPOT!

Breaking the law to ruin your reputation, heck even the 'reporter' and his employer may be paying.

30 posted on 10/29/2008 3:47:45 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: brwnsuga
I hate when people paint everyone with the same broad brush.

Every rule has exceptions. I apologize as well for my broad brush.

31 posted on 10/29/2008 3:47:49 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
Jones-Kelly...donated the maximum $2,500 this year to the Obama campaign.

It annoys me that a public servant has the liquidity to donate the max.

32 posted on 10/29/2008 3:48:11 PM PDT by Doohickey (Go Phillies! 2008 National League Champions!)
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To: brwnsuga

Double bump.


33 posted on 10/29/2008 3:48:54 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: brwnsuga

I agree. But do you have 3 McCain/Palin signs in your yard like I have in mine? :-)


34 posted on 10/29/2008 3:48:59 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: buccaneer81; Constitution Day
Helen Jones-Kelley

Rule #1 in life: Never, ever, under any circumstances trust a women with a hyphenated name (or 3 names).

35 posted on 10/29/2008 3:49:20 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: buccaneer81
You've got to ask yourself one question - is this the kind of government you want starting in January? If not, then by all means vote for McCain. In fact vote for anybody that will beat a democrat in any office.

I went through this kind of thing when I had a dispute with the vice president of the union that I was in some 24 years ago. He started prying into my life in ways totally unconnected to my job (but not to this extent). I let him know, in front of many witnesses, that I would not stand for it and he backed off. He was merely trying to intimidate me, and I'm pretty bullheaded.

This is the same mindset - the democrats are the new mafia, and right now, Obama is a Don Corleone wannabe. These folks have much in common with organized crime, mixed with a sprinkling of fascism and baked in a socialist oven.

36 posted on 10/29/2008 3:49:34 PM PDT by meyer (The second amendment is NOT about hunting)
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To: Doohickey

If the state workers are found guilty of official misconduct, he may not only be able to sue the state for invasion of privacy but the individuals as well. He could bankrupt them as the state will not be on the hook to pay their attorney fees and award.


37 posted on 10/29/2008 3:49:37 PM PDT by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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To: GOP_Lady
good lawyers

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Just kidding, in situations like this they can be the best solution.

38 posted on 10/29/2008 3:49:56 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Kieri

The Dems and their surrogates made the issue all about Joe. This should the daylights out of people. A harbinger of what is to come. Speak out at your own risk.


39 posted on 10/29/2008 3:50:40 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: GOP_Lady

You got me beat there.


40 posted on 10/29/2008 3:51:19 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!! future moose killer!!!)
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