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VIDEO of Obama calling for a Secret Police Force: CIVILIAN NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE??
YouTube ^ | 10/29/2008 | YouTube

Posted on 10/29/2008 5:16:23 AM PDT by RaceBannon

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To: RaceBannon
Totalitarians (fascists and Marxists) require an extensive network of civilian informers and supporters to ensure they hold power

It also invest the young idealists into “the system” and provides opportunities to indoctrinate them

Models= Russia, Cuba, Red China, North Korea and most of the so-called “revolutionary” movements in Africa and elsewhere

Be nice to your kids- they may be reporting on what you say and do at home

Obama and his marxist mentors have staked their careers on a strategy of building organzations of angry street rats to beseige all organs of society and paralyze it (banks, schools, government, legal system)

TRY TO FIND an explanation of the Clowen-Piven strategy
ALL MY LINKS and SEARCH RESULTS SEEM TO HAVE DISAPPEARED

21 posted on 10/29/2008 5:29:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Calpernia

Also this:

Ayers Draft:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2112547/posts?page=45#45
[Ayers is suggesting that the Draft could be a loophole for work camps and indoctrination camps. Maybe that’s why Michelle Obama is so certain that we’ll be ‘required’ to work and get ‘informed’ Obama’s way.]

When someone is as secretive as Obama, how can anyone think his plans won’t be radical?

Obama Continues To Withhold Multiple Official Documents (Very Long List...Who Is This Masked Man?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117333/posts

Certifigate link thread updated:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2114092/posts?page=172#172


22 posted on 10/29/2008 5:29:55 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: RaceBannon

Simple really, because the new national internal security force will be controlled by whoever controls the New Democratic government.

Even more chilling, with the new USISF in place we will no longer need police departments on the local, county, and state levels, and we can expect our sheriffs deputies, troopers and cops to either be absorbed into the new USISF laid off or retired....

After they surrender their weapons of course we don’t want police equipment in the hands of ordinary citizens.


23 posted on 10/29/2008 5:30:07 AM PDT by usmcobra (There are 665,000,000 reasons why Obama should show his eligibility to be president!)
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To: RaceBannon
Alpha, Omega, Alpha, Omega... Yeah, I know it was a young fraterniy-type of thing...training for that new police force before they go after those Obama provided jobs.
24 posted on 10/29/2008 5:30:38 AM PDT by madison10
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To: RaceBannon

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967

Whew- it’s Cloward Piven-
read it and compare to what is happening

My paranoia is heating up


25 posted on 10/29/2008 5:31:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: RaceBannon
Obama is already is building  a cadre to lead his own quot;people’s organization" -- and he's got a ton of money -- more than $75 million.

Obama has, through his nonprofit group, "Public Allies," a pun on Alinsky's "people’s organizations," has been organizing and training a political cadre since 1993.  There are fifteen fully-staffed and populated chapters, operating under the watchful eye of Michelle Obama.

The Obama Campaign is also conducting, at the state level, a "national program for social change," called "Camp Obama," and there's no marshmallows at Camp Obama.  Here's their sign-up page -- you too can be a "Deputy Field Organizer."

Obama Campaign's website promises that "you'll get the kind of experience that Barack got as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago," and "Camp Obama is your chance to step up and become a leader in this movement."

Movement?  What movement?

Public Allies and Camp Obama are Alinsky training programs designed to build a core group of "community organizers" dedicated to "social change" in their communities. 

Their charter will be to bring about "Change."  They'll do this through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation -- getting people "pissed off" -- the tactics of Alinsky.

Obama is cloning thousands of baby Obamas -- a "people’s organization" -- and on our dime.

A "movement" -- dedicated to social change by getting people "pissed off" -- and there will be thousands of them.

If Obama should sit in the Oval Office, just what do you think he has planned for these guys?

And -- if Obama shouldn't sit in the Oval Office, just what do you think he has planned for these guys?

Remember this? 

On July 2nd, 2008, Obama spoke in Colorado Springs and hit themes of national service, foreign policy, and national security.  In that vein, Obama proposed a rather extraordinary idea -- that the US should spend as much money on a civilian national security force as it does on the military. (video)

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

And what color shirts will they wear?

Lenin said this about socialism: "The goal of socialism is communism."

None of this is good.

26 posted on 10/29/2008 5:31:55 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: RaceBannon
A form of a National Secret Police Obama is alluding to is :

THE GESTAPO !!!!!

WAKE THE HECK UP THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA !!!



And his first targets world wide would be the Christians and Jews/Israel....




27 posted on 10/29/2008 5:32:33 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: madison10

Ministry of Peace - military force against opponents within
Nightwatch - secret police
ISS - propaganda news media

Um, President Clark from Babylon 5?


28 posted on 10/29/2008 5:33:11 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Thrownatbirth

Will we have to bow down to them. Not that it would be horrible.... //sarcasm off


29 posted on 10/29/2008 5:35:00 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: RaceBannon

That is an out of context quote of a badly chosen phrase.

He was (badly) referring to an oversized Peace Corps.


30 posted on 10/29/2008 5:35:57 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: RaceBannon
This is nothing but a backdoor around posse comitatus Most likely to take our weapons.
31 posted on 10/29/2008 5:37:05 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: ctdonath2

It is too easy to believe otherwise...


32 posted on 10/29/2008 5:37:32 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon
"And we already HAVE a military so, WHY do we need a NEW one??"


33 posted on 10/29/2008 5:42:17 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Barack Hussein Obama is a Socialist. GO SARAH !)
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To: RaceBannon

Nice to see him in favor of a well armed militia. (/sarc)


34 posted on 10/29/2008 5:42:25 AM PDT by gotribe (obama just sucks - your wealth away)
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To: Calpernia

References to my post 12:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280305/posts?page=16#16

Excerpt:

The SPCAs are accountable to no governmental authority. Because there are no standards, rules or guidelines governing their composition, operation, training or activities, there is no consistancy or uniformity in their make-up, functioning or enforcement of the laws. These autonomous organizations present a true hodgepodge of extreme diversity and a danger to the state’s structured system of law enforcement. Once individuals in a county receive a charter from the state SPCA, they control the selection, discipline and removal of their members, officers and agents; the election of terms of office of members of the board of directors; the content of any by-laws; the formulation of any rules or regulations; what training, if any will be provided; how they will enforce the animal cruelty laws, and how they will spend the income. As a result, the SPCAs run the gamut in effectiveness of operation, scrupulousness in financial matters and enforcement of the cruelty laws. While some are operated in a highly professional manner, according to set rules and regulations, others are run as the personal domain of a well entrenched few who discard the rules on whim. Many individuals involved in these societies are dedicated to the welfare of animals and committed to functioning within an organized, structed environment, while others are ‘wannabe cops’ or motivated by personal gain. Because the SPCAs operate outside the realm of government, they have become havens for those who cannot obtain legitimate law enforcement positions.

Excerpt:

ARREST POWERS: The legislative provision governing arrests for violations of the animal cruelty laws is contained in N.J.S.A. 4:22-44. It empowers only the state society and not the county societies. Arrests may be made with a warrant or without a warrant when the violation occurs in the individual’s presence. Since the provision was first enacted in 1880, the power to arrest has been conferred not only upon the NJ SPCA’s officers and agents, but also upon its members. However, nowhere in the statutes governing the societies is the term ‘member’ defined. Therefore, it includes dues-paying members and those members of the Board of Directors who are not agents or officers. These individuals receive no law enforcement training.


Here is one of the training classes were law professors and such train these ‘citizen agents of the law’.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1562040/posts
NJSBA Animal Law
LITIGATION & DEFENSE OF ANIMALS

NJSBA Animal Law Committee


Another example:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1483299/posts
Armed and Dangerous: Private Police on the March

Excerpt:

THE ERA OF DUAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IS HERE AS GOVERNMENT AND CORPORATIONS HIRE RENT-A-COPS TO GUARD BUSINESSES AND GATED COMMUNITIES AND TO BREAK STRIKES. NOW, ABUSES BY THE PRIVATE SECURITY INDUSTRY AND ITS EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES THREATEN PUBLIC SECURITY.


35 posted on 10/29/2008 5:43:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Doug TX

I’m not so sure about that, the bully factor already seems to be in place.


36 posted on 10/29/2008 5:43:21 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: RaceBannon

We need a new one for the same reason that Hugo Chavez formed and armed his own “people’s militia:” to defend the revolution against reactionary forces.


37 posted on 10/29/2008 5:44:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Okay, I surrender....


38 posted on 10/29/2008 5:44:49 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: RaceBannon
Obama really needs to explain what the hell he's talking about here.

A "civilian security force" as powerful and well-funded as the Pentagon? Huh?

ACORN with aircraft carriers and stealth bombers?

WTF is he talking about?

39 posted on 10/29/2008 5:46:25 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Thrownatbirth

That’s a security force I could support!


40 posted on 10/29/2008 5:46:59 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Barney Frank is a Fannie bandit.)
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