Posted on 10/26/2008 2:07:09 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
Jim Nuzzo, a White House aide to the first President Bush, dismissed Mrs Palin's critics as "cocktail party conservatives" who "give aid and comfort to the enemy".
He told The Sunday Telegraph: "There's going to be a bloodbath. A lot of people are going to be excommunicated. David Brooks and David Frum and Peggy Noonan are dead people in the Republican Party. The litmus test will be: where did you stand on Palin?"
Mr Frum thinks that Mrs Palin's brand of cultural conservatism appeals only to a dwindling number of voters.
He said: "She emerges from this election as the probable frontrunner for the 2012 nomination. Her supporters vastly outnumber her critics. But it will be extremely difficult for her to win the presidency."
Mr Nuzzo, who believes this election is not a re-run of the 1980 Reagan revolution but of 1976, when an ageing Gerald Ford lost a close contest and then ceded the leadership of the Republican Party to Mr Reagan.
He said: "Win or lose, there is a ready made conservative candidate waiting in the wings. Sarah Palin is not the new Iain Duncan Smith, she is the new Ronald Reagan." On the accuracy of that judgment, perhaps, rests the future of the Republican Party.
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Hey, if you’re looking to the government to “spread the wealth” and take care of you health care, your thinking changed some where along the line and if you think people like you are going to turn the Republican part into a lite version of the Democratic party, you can forget it. That ship has sailed. That’s what put us in the position of not being able to mop the floor with a racists Marxist.
Seriously, join the Dem party you’ll be happier there (assuming you haven’t made the change already). Then take a ride across the border and wonder to yourself how long it will take America’s economy to be like their’s.
Jindal would be a good candidate. He’s very bright “and” personable.
I believe, and my familiarity with Arizona helps, that John McCain has such a monstrous ego that he just can’t stand sharing the limelight with — really playing second banana to — Sarah Palin. Even if McCain wins, Sarah Palin will be the Repblican standard-bearer in ‘12. She will remain a powerhouse for years to come if she, like Ronald Reagan, can laugh-off the incessant drumbeat of criticism that will come her way.
No, you’re a Democrat and a quasi-socialist. You just haven’t come to terms with it yet.
Just try and win without us.
There will be time for a post-mortem after the mortem. In the meantime lets just be clear that the conservative party is either bold, clear in its principles, or it isn't going to persuade anyone. For decades we've tried to boil our economic and political philosophy down to one-liners about tax-cuts and it isn't working. We have to have leaders and politicians who can give the long-version when they need to, who can actually explain what the underlying principles are, who can actually explain why freedom works and why it is a good beyond the fact that it works.
You wouldn't think in America we'd have to do this, but clearly we do. A new America gets born every day and either we educate them or our enemies do and our America dies.
But until its over I'm not prepared to bring up any "I told you so's". You don't do that while you're still in the middle of the fight. We can still win. I don't believe the polls, they don't make sense.
The media propaganda machine is choosing our next president. They are doint it, they believe they have the right to do it, and they are proving that they have the power to do it. Thats a problem we've got to solve before the next election or there isn't going to be another one worth mentioning.
George “prescription drugs W” Bush a conservative?
HAHAHA!!
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I dislike the RINO’s as much as anybody, but David Frum at least was right in his Washington Post article today: We need to refocus the RNC’s resources on winning Republican Senate seats. Most of the people where I work are Democrats who’ve proudly informed me and other Republicans of their plans if they make big Senate gains, and if the Dems get close to 60 seats in the Senate, they’d essentially have a one-party dictatorship— even worse, they’d rig the system to shut down the conservative movement for good. Here are some of the things that would be on tap for us if the Dems were to win so many Senate races:
1. Full statehood for Washington, D.C. as well as Guam, which would provide 6 more guaranteed Electoral College votes for Dems, as well as 4 more Senators and 2 more Congressional representatives.
2. Full amnesty for illegal immigrants who would be granted immediate voting rights. The entire Southwest would then be almost as Democratic as New England— even Texas, Arizona and Florida would become Democratic strongholds, making it virtually impossible for a Republican to win again.
3. Mass censorship of conservative news sources.
All this on top of the wave of mass socialism that the Dems would unleash.
We cannot, I repeat, *cannot* allow the Dems to get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. Furthermore, we should restore the old filibuster rules in the Senate that require a 2/3 majority of Senators to cloture a filibuster (rather than just 60%, as it currently stands).
I know this may sound like a surrender to some people in the POTUS campaign, but it isn’t— it’s nothing more than a tactical retreat, which is *not* a surrender. The most successful armies in the past have known when to beat a tactical retreat, since this allows them to retain some strongholds and regroup to fight another day. If we fail to beat a tactical retreat now, then we’d be like the British at Yorktown— trapped, with no ability to fight back.
Concentrate on the Senate. We’ll retain the seats in Kentucky, Georgia, Mississippi, we’ll gain Louisiana, we’ll hold onto New Hampshire and Oregon if we just focus our resources there. That’s where the real battle is!
That's only evidence of the limitations of the McCain staff's judgment. For the last month, she is the only one of the four who is talking to the press at all - and no gaffes reported.
Sorry, I disagree completely.
First, surrendering is for Democrats (which is waht Frum is)
Second, If the Dems rule without limits it will hurt them far more and far quicker than us. As Clinton hinted, too many people are buying into a fairy tale. The sooner American realize that, the better. Enough of the “limit the damage stratgey.” Let them burn the house down so we can rebuild it.
As Joe Biden would say, Gird your loins! ROFLMAO! Stand up for Joe! Gawd Luv Ya!
Look..I went through breast cancer last year. All the sob stories you see on tv. I'll give you a hint. They're true. I can't begin to tell you how utterly screwed we were by our insurance company. And how many of my fellow cancer survivors (if they survived) were also screwed.
How? I'll start with just the basics...Deny, deny, deny. Deny claims. Even if it's for regular treatment - nothing cutting edge - find a reason to deny the claims. Deny for so long that the patient has to pay the bills so she doesn't have to file for bankruptcy.
Send the patient a letter saying that her surgeon didn't pre-approve the aenesthesiologist, and therefore the patient owes the full bill. NEVER MIND that all I sat in the office while all pre-approvals were made by phone. Why? Because this is a common ruse used, and I was just lucky enough to be one of the folks they used it on.
Send the patient a letter saying that labwork wasn't pre-approved. (No, I wasn't present for that phone call.) What in the hell does my insurance company think they were going to do with my tissue? Throw it in the trash. I HAD CANCER! The insurance company knew we'd be looking for clean margins in a lab.
On and on.
Watch you college kid get sick and have the insurance company tell you that unless your kid stays in college, they won't pay a claim. Do you think you could continue on with college after surgery? Try it sometimes. (This happens three years ago.)
Then, watch a fellow patient quit her job because she's being treated for stage three breast cancer, and see how she reacts when she has to sell her house to make her cobra payments. She's a professional woman who could no longer work due to a bad reaction to the chemo. What's the point of having insurance if you can't access because you can't work? This is so screwy.
People think they are insured until they actually need it, but then if they're too sick to work (just when they actually REALLY need the insurance), they're screwed. Makes NO SENSE. You carry insurance for when you need it, but when you need it, you can't continue to pay for it. Do you know how many folks are enduring this mess every year?
Republicans could have put in some common sense regulations. People have been telling their horror stories for years, but they didn't listen. Now, they're going to get screwed, and I saw this coming years ago. I was laughed at. Well, laugh all you want right now. Laugh a lot, because you won't be laughing over the next four years.
Not at all, are you daft?
Frum has embraced the Obamao, and now he is your source of political thought?
Absurd!
I'm sorry about your cancer. But you should realize, you may not be happy with your insurance company but you are alive.
How many people in socialized countries with socialized medicine can say the same thing?
PTM, while I agree with you that a Democratic one-party state would utterly screw things up, you don’t seem to appreciate the implications if they win a filibuster-proof, 60-Senator majority— THEY WOULD RIG THE SYSTEM SO MUCH AGAINST US THAT WE COULD NEVER, EVER REGAIN POWER. That’s what dictatorships do.
Most Russians absolutely hated the Communist Party after Stalin’s purges and the economic misery that Brezhnev and the other GP’s virtually guaranteed for the Russian people. The Ukrainians, Belorussians, Latvians and Estonians hated the Commies even worse. But it didn’t matter since the Commies rigged the rules to prevent any other power from challenging them. Same with the Nazis— even as far back as 1934 most Germans hated them (they never won a majority Parliament vote), but once again, the Nazis rigged the rules, so they had One Party Control.
This is the point— it doesn’t matter how badly the Dems screw things up, if they gain effective One Party Control, they’ll rig the rules so there’ll be no way we could ever displace them again.
Like I said— if the Dems get 60 Senators, we’d be looking at instant statehood for Washington, D.C. and Guam, amnesty for 25 million illegal immigrants (who would instantly be given Democratic ballots), censorship of conservative media— it’d get very ugly.
The Democrats would essentially generate a Latin American-style, one-party majority for themselves.
We can’t allow that, and we need to ensure that we win enough Senate seats to block the Dems from getting such a majority. Then we need to change the Senate rules to ensure only a 2/3 majority could override a filibuster.
Again— the Senate is now where the real battles of 2008 are.
History is littered with governments who rigged the system.
Have faith in the people brother. They defeated the USSR without firing a shot and that system was pretty rigged....
Mr. Frum misses the point (again). It's not just the cultural conservatism. It's the willingness to stand up and fight for the things most of the national GOP has abandoned, like limited government and fiscal restraint. It's also about understanding that most Americans *are* Joe the Plumber, and further understanding that we're not the rubes elites in both parties seem to think we are.
Mr. Frum may now kiss the skinniest part of my skinny butt.
No, Padre, but like any soldier facing an overwhelming enemy, I’m making tactical decisions here. When we were in Korea and Vietnam, we couldn’t fight the enemy on every single front, so we had to pick and choose which fronts to do combat on. It’s called strategy, and it would be daft of you to pretend that we have unlimited resources to fight on every single front— we have to choose the right battles so that we can prevent the Dems from forging an effective One Party State which, make no mistake, is their top objective.
The greatest disaster for the GOP would be for the Dems to gain a 60-seat majority in the Senate, with a radical Socialist like Obama in the White House. We cannot allow the Dems to have this level of power! The Dems would give statehood to Washington, D.C. and Guam, while granting full amnesty to 25 million illegal immigrants and censoring conservative media. It’d be like the Communists in Russia after 1922. So we have to apportion our resources to defeat the Dems and prevent them from turning this country into a one-party state.
I read some article Frum wrote about a month ago where he proceeded to talk about “America” and it was obvious to me, somebody who has truly seen America from to to bottom, he does not understand this country at all.
I never said I want socialist healthcare. I've lived in England. No thanks.
I'm just afraid that that is what we're going to get, because the Republicans were too busy cozying up to the insurance company lobbyists. :(
You make some very good points....and you will probably get trashed by the same RINOs here who are whining about the RINOs who hate Palin...most of the people whining about RINOs hating Palin share the same liberal viewpoints as the RINOs they are trashing.
The economy is messed up, and its mainly from Bush’s Liberal Globalist/Business Socialist policies. I agree that the Corporist model has failed...Monopolies are really Communism for the non-working, non-producing rich.
We need to encourage more competitiveness, and more pro-American economics. We need to create jobs in America instead of shipping them to Communist China. Pretty much, supporting free trade w Commie China makes you a communist. It surely doesnt make you capitalist
Our banking system is a mess, and we need to let shaky banks fail. The bailout just preserves bad banks who will continue to make bad loans and foster bad economic policy.
Mergers of corporations reduces competition, and lowers employment and wages. It would be better economically to let the bad businesses die, instead of bailing them out. There are so many things we can do to help the economy instead of throwing taxpayer money at it.
For the GOP to survive, it will have to dump the current leadership that is pro-illegal, pro-Commie Chinese, pro-Globalist, pro-Chamber of Commerce...and get back to real conservative values.
The real fear of Obama should be: If the economy somehow gets better under his Presidency...the GOP can forget the White House and Congress for a long while. This is the real scary part of an Obama presidency.
But, with McCain...you will get more of the bad econmics...Commie China, illegal alien amnesty, Business Socialism, Globalism, and 2012 the White House will be DNC for a long while.
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