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Republican fears of historic Obama landslide unleash civil war for the future of the party
UK Telegraph ^ | 10/26/08 | Tim Shipman

Posted on 10/26/2008 2:07:09 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia

Jim Nuzzo, a White House aide to the first President Bush, dismissed Mrs Palin's critics as "cocktail party conservatives" who "give aid and comfort to the enemy".

He told The Sunday Telegraph: "There's going to be a bloodbath. A lot of people are going to be excommunicated. David Brooks and David Frum and Peggy Noonan are dead people in the Republican Party. The litmus test will be: where did you stand on Palin?"

Mr Frum thinks that Mrs Palin's brand of cultural conservatism appeals only to a dwindling number of voters.

He said: "She emerges from this election as the probable frontrunner for the 2012 nomination. Her supporters vastly outnumber her critics. But it will be extremely difficult for her to win the presidency."

Mr Nuzzo, who believes this election is not a re-run of the 1980 Reagan revolution but of 1976, when an ageing Gerald Ford lost a close contest and then ceded the leadership of the Republican Party to Mr Reagan.

He said: "Win or lose, there is a ready made conservative candidate waiting in the wings. Sarah Palin is not the new Iain Duncan Smith, she is the new Ronald Reagan." On the accuracy of that judgment, perhaps, rests the future of the Republican Party.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigtent; elitists; frum; gop; republicanparty; turncoatlist
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Most of the article is pure defeatism, but this exchange is interesting.
1 posted on 10/26/2008 2:07:10 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

These snobs have run this country for 30 years.

It is time to tell them to F off, scram, vamoose, get lost, retire, and move over.


2 posted on 10/26/2008 2:09:53 PM PDT by roses of sharon (When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD will put him to flight (Isaiah 59:19)
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David Brooks and David Frum and Peggy Noonan are dead people in the Republican Party.


3 posted on 10/26/2008 2:10:37 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Add Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal into the mix and the GOP might even be attractive again in the 2012.


4 posted on 10/26/2008 2:13:28 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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I have lost all respect for Ms. Peggy Noonan and Ms. Kathleen Parker. And I used to have tremendous respect for Ms. Parker. But no more. A criticism against Palin only gets the Socialist Obama into office. Where is the logic in that? Unbelievable irresponsibility.
5 posted on 10/26/2008 2:13:52 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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They got the headline wrong. It will mean civil war for the country.


6 posted on 10/26/2008 2:14:46 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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I don’t think this is true. Will be just like 1980. I would bet on Newt Gingrich united the party, although I still believe John McCain will win this election.


7 posted on 10/26/2008 2:15:00 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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Peggy Noonan tries portray herself is a loving caring human being. She is anything of the sort. She is an vindictive, rude, arrogant, backstabber that I would not trust with my silverware.
8 posted on 10/26/2008 2:15:22 PM PDT by jrooney (I am not voting for Spread the Wealth/Senator Government. I am voting for the War Hero and Baracuda.)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

elitist scum.


9 posted on 10/26/2008 2:15:22 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Well these fine upstanding conservatives, along with Barnes of FNC have sure shown their colors. I canceled my subscription to Barnes’ dumb magazine. The rest, never watched or read them anyway. Noonan has gone tippy in the brain of late.

Rush, Sean, Beck and Ingraham for me. Who needs more.


10 posted on 10/26/2008 2:15:29 PM PDT by Tarpon (Barack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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If O wins they can spend the next 4 years covering up for their new hero. At least they will still get invited to the parties. When Mac wins they will move to the Dem party. Thats the only party where they will be welcome. For going out of their way to damage a fine American woman and elect a socialist , they will have to live with the failure of a palace coup. They lost big time. Goodbye and good riddance.
11 posted on 10/26/2008 2:17:05 PM PDT by fantom
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"Sarah Palin is not the new Iain Duncan Smith, she is the new Ronald Reagan"

I love Sarah but it seems like that's just a leetle mite premature. I, for one, will welcome the demise of the current Republican leadership types.

12 posted on 10/26/2008 2:17:51 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: DennisR

Correct. What Peggy and kathleen P are advocating is REPLACING Reagan conservatism with a putrid hybrid of liberalism and “social” conservatism. In other words, veer left but keep close to being a moderate. Well, that didn’t work when Karl Rove & McCain appeased La Raza and the pro-illegal organizations, did it?


13 posted on 10/26/2008 2:18:02 PM PDT by max americana
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

A lot of people are going to be excommunicated


14 posted on 10/26/2008 2:18:52 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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Obama Victory means Civil war for the future of the party

BS. It means the Rockefeller country clubbers can take a hike and conservatives can take the party back.
15 posted on 10/26/2008 2:19:30 PM PDT by mysterio
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Yea. And our job here at Free Republic is to fight tooth and nail to keep these scum bag traitors out of the tent after the Mc/Palin win. These slimes will attempt to slither their way back in under the radar. A purging will be the Order of The Day ! Even against the wishes of the new president....One Term Johnny !


16 posted on 10/26/2008 2:20:07 PM PDT by mick
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This “landslide” talk would be moot if McCain had done the CONSERVATIVE thing and dismiss the bailout for what it was—SOCIALISM....he’d be leading the polls now..instead he had to “get along” with the conventional liberal wisdom (oxymoron I know) and vote for the miserable failure of a bailout. This whole doomsday discussion would be on the Democrat candidate who faced a landslide against him if McCain had lead with conservatism.

Conservatism isn’t dead....it’s just not practiced by the people who really count...and the guy who counts the most is the presidential nominee.


17 posted on 10/26/2008 2:20:15 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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The litmus test will be: where did you stand on Palin?

Geez, Palin is a singularly attractive candidate, is plenty conservative, gives a great speech, but has some limitations as evidenced by the degree to which the McCain camp has kept her away from the media. She hasn't been used as a talking-head campaign spokeswoman on news shows, as would have been the other widely discussed VP possibilities. Making failure to acknowledge Palin's limitations as a litmus test seems somewhat counterproductive. Brooks, Noonan and other suspect conservative, have betrayed their Obamaphilia in other ways besides their skepticism over Palin.

18 posted on 10/26/2008 2:21:23 PM PDT by Plutarch
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Sadly, I suspect any CIVIL WAR will extend well beyond the party.

If Obama loses, it will probably come down immediately.

If he wins, it will just take a bit longer to develop.

Pray for America — the ORIGINAL IDEA!!!!!


19 posted on 10/26/2008 2:21:47 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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Yea. And our job here at Free Republic is to fight tooth and nail to keep these scum bag traitors out of the tent after the Mc/Palin win. These slimes will attempt to slither their way back in under the radar. A purging will be the Order of The Day ! Even against the wishes of the new president....One Term Johnny !


20 posted on 10/26/2008 2:21:58 PM PDT by mick
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