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October 29, 2004: Freepers react to reports of big Kerry lead in early voting
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Posted on 10/25/2008 12:05:20 AM PDT by Chet 99

Florida: Kerry Leads Big in Early Voting NewsMax.com ^ | Friday, Oct. 29, 2004 | NewsMax Wires

Posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17:39 PM by kyperman

President Bush and Democratic challenger John Kerry remain locked in a close race for Florida's 27 electoral votes as they head into the final days of the 2004 campaign, a new poll indicated Thursday.

Among 16 percent of Florida voters who said they had cast early ballots, Kerry received 56 percent of those compared to Bush's 39 percent. [Editor's Note: NewsMax's Insider Report first revealed early voting results --

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To: kyperman

This was reported in the local papers this morning.

2 posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18:17 PM by Paradox (Occam was probably right.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse] To: kyperman

If true, Rove may have blown it.

3 posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18:24 PM by CatOwner [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse] To: kyperman

Yikes...that's not good.

4 posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18:32 PM by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: kyperman

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww if elected he'll show Fla what "LOVE IS LIKE" for the next four years...... I guess Edwards and Kerry will french kiss on air if they win Fla....

8 posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:19:25 PM by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!") [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse] To: Primetimedonna

This is freaking me out!

9 posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:19:38 PM by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: CatOwner We had a cat once that used to get into other peoples' houses and pee on their refrigerators. (Hey -- do cats need reasons?!?)

The cat is long dead now, but I'm wondering if maybe you're channeling him..... 25 posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:21:31 PM by r9etb [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: MattinNJ

I wish people would quit calling me a Troll....I AM NOT.

68 posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:35:10 PM by kyperman (Hows this for a face you love to hate.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

To: kyperman

Of course you're a troll. You've posted nothing but doom and gloom all day.

80 posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 12:48:46 PM by Gunder [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

1 posted on 10/25/2008 12:05:20 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

I love ya Chet! :) So when ya gonna answer my freep mail? ;-)


2 posted on 10/25/2008 12:10:43 AM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: Chet 99

You da man.


3 posted on 10/25/2008 12:13:23 AM PDT by kesg
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To: Chet 99
A useful reminder, Chet. Ain't nothing next to what lies in store for us come this election day. Election day '04 is going to look like irrational exuberance by comparison. There will be a massive effort to call this before half the country gets out of bed on Nov. 4.

Hopefully, most FReepers have steeled themselves for what lies ahead.

4 posted on 10/25/2008 12:20:40 AM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: Chet 99

I’m hoping McCain can pull it out but it would be the greatest upset in history if he does.

If you go back a yr, unemployment is up close to 2% from this time last year. It’s gone up just about every month this year. In the post war era, the only other election yr that had a comparable rise in unemployment leading to the election was 1980. What happened to the incumbent party then? Even in 92 when Clinton won the economy unemployment was only up by .4% from the past yr and actually declined in the months leading up the election. By comparison, in 2004 unemployment declined by .4% in the year leading up to the election. In 2000, it declined by .2%. Just ask yourself what would have happened in 2004 if we had a 2% jump in unemployment the year leading up to the election and the highest unemployment rate in 15 yrs? We’d be talking about Pres Kerry right about now.

The stock market has lost 30-35% of its value in the past 6 weeks. There’ve been massive drops like every day for a month straight. That’s unprecedented in an election yr. AGain, in 2004, 2000 the market was pretty stable. In just about every election year it hasn’t moved more than 2-3% in either direction.

Inflation is the highest in 15 yrs.

The GDP growth will show that we’ve contracted for the first time in 7 yrs or so. The worst figures in quite some time. Especially in an election yr.

And those are just basic figures. I haven’t even mentioned the bailout, the collapse of AIG, all the banks, Lehman and Bear Sterns and Fannie and Freddie and the whole mortgage and housing mess.

Or Bush’s historic low approval ratings. Or the fact that Obama has outspent McCain by 5-1 or more.

You add all that up and no wonder things aren’t looking so great. No incumbent party should have even a chance at winning with those figures. It should be impossible for any challenger to lose with those figures. Despite all of that, McCain appears to still have some sliver of hope. But every day like today when the dow loses 300+ is like another shot to the gut. If we could have a fairly good week next week and McCain and Palin can have a good week and do well in OH, FL, VA, NC, CO and MO we can win this.

Not an optimal position, but all things considered, it could be worse. The last two times the economy was this bad heading into an election the incumbent party won 6 states each time. Even in worst case scenario, McCain will win 18 states or so, and he should win at least 22. So, things could be a lot worse. This should tell us what our absolute floor is.

But the facts, particularly the economic date make this the most difficult election to win for the GOP since 1964. Not really McCain’s fault, but that’s where we are. If the economy had simply stayed as it was back in September, we’d have a very good chance of winning. Unfortunately, the bottom fell out and it completely collapsed.


5 posted on 10/25/2008 12:33:27 AM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Chet 99
Bush won FL going away. They leaked it to demoralize and depress Bush voters.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 10/25/2008 12:35:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jeltz25
Back in September before the financial crisis broke, McCain Palin were leading even among registered voters. They lost the lead shortly after that and to date haven't regained it. So its a big mountain to climb.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 10/25/2008 12:38:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Did they lose their lead or is that when the media and pollsters decided to start skewing the polls as a strategy to make it look like Obama is inevitible?


8 posted on 10/25/2008 12:46:01 AM PDT by beckysueb (Drill here! Drill now!)
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To: goldstategop

i agree. i think if things had stayed fairly stable, we’d be in good shape now. That’s obviously what McCain, Schmidt, et al were planning on back in August. So much for the best laid plans.

Without the economic collapse, VA, NC, and MO would all be pretty safe and this election would come down to OH, FL, CO and NV and I’d feel fairly good about that.

Oh well.


9 posted on 10/25/2008 12:47:13 AM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
Its all up to our fellow Americans. Win or lose I will still have my faith in our country's future. My view of life is not determined by who wins or who loses elections.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 10/25/2008 12:49:10 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jeltz25
I’m hoping McCain can pull it out but it would be the greatest upset in history if he does.

I'd like to see McCain -3 in the exit polls, then +6 on 5 November, Olbermann having exited the set feet first, having gone aphasic mid-rant, Obama homeless due to collateral damage in Hyde Park.

11 posted on 10/25/2008 12:50:21 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: goldstategop

When Social Security tax goes uncapped, your 401K, capital gains, and taxable income go up 10-20% with socialized medicine, the Brown shirts and the Global Poverty Act with 12 million newly minted Mexican citizens...

You can find a small plot of land and watch the sunset move slowly behind the mountains and pray hard for 2012.


12 posted on 10/25/2008 12:53:43 AM PDT by wac3rd (Conservatives are not always Republicans...and vice-versa.)
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To: Chet 99

Thanks!


13 posted on 10/25/2008 12:55:45 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: jeltz25

Oh the drama!

This Democrat congress has the lowest approval rating in history.

Everything has gone to pot since the Democrats took control of congress.

Nice try though.....The trend is all McCain!


14 posted on 10/25/2008 1:02:20 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: jeltz25
it would be the greatest upset in history if he does.

To you, the media and pollsters anyway. Of course at least two of those were upset last time and the time before that.

I have at least as much credibility as any poll. And I say: No way America elects Obama.

15 posted on 10/25/2008 1:08:45 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: jeltz25
This should tell us what our absolute floor is.

Disagree. If the dems hadn't put up such a radical leftist terrorist sympathizer, then we would see the floor.

16 posted on 10/25/2008 1:08:56 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: Chet 99

AWESOME JOB CHET! You are a one man army destroying the DNC/MSM/LEFTIST/TEAM MARXIST misinformation/demoralization campaign!


17 posted on 10/25/2008 1:19:03 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: goldstategop

Yep and they’re trying to do it again.


18 posted on 10/25/2008 1:38:27 AM PDT by PowerPro (McCain/Palin FTW)
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To: D-fendr; 1035rep; zeebee; jeltz25
Man, I want to believe that Obama is really behind in all these polls. I'll go out and my family will vote for McCain when it's time. The only thing that concerns me, is you, me and other assorted conservatives represent the intellectual elite amongst voters. That average voter is what I'd label an "Ameri-tard" and completely ignorant, thanks to years of liberal public school indoctrination.

Hell, just the other day I saw a new report on an elementary school mock vote where one 2nd grade kid voted for Obama because "He'll give 95% of people a tax cut". Not soon after, on another news program an adult made the same quote. CRIKEY - WTF?!?

In Los Angeles, officials will encourage half of Mexico to vote for Obama while they eat up all the government subsidized cheese in the state, bankrupt and close down most of the hospitals due to unpaid bills and turn their neighhborhoods into gang-warefare zones. Then they'll turn around and ask for help as their state goes bankrupt and gets reclaimed as sovereign territory by Mexico.

In South Florida half the Jews will vote for a man who will sacrifice Israel before breakfast and go on to eat his Wheaties without so much a 2nd thought while he shuffles through the cereal box looking for the prize. Don't believe me? Take a drive through Boca and check out all the "Obama Bin Biden" signs in people's yards and on their cars. It's even worse at my mom's condo, it really upsets her.

In New York, people will celebrate Obama's election right up until the bright light of Jihad lights up the skyline...just before the shock wave ignites the city in a massive fireball.

I'll place my faith in God, let his will be done. It has no place amongst the American electorate.

Ok, I've had my "Lousy Troll" moment. I need to take a breather. Thy will be done...Thy will be done...

19 posted on 10/25/2008 3:48:42 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: jeltz25
Yes, but the fact is there is no viable alternative to McCain.

Moreover, a Democrat controlled Congress is also responsible for the mess.

When people vote for a President, they want one they can trust, and that is why Obama is going to lose.

20 posted on 10/25/2008 5:26:37 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord-(Jer.22:29))
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