Posted on 10/22/2008 10:12:38 AM PDT by Raven6
Wednesday, October 22, 2008
Vote Fraud in Nashville – UPDATED AND BUMPED
Friday, 10/17/08, 9:30 PM: A few hours ago, Nashville's syndicated radio talk show host Phil Valentine took a phone call from Lynn Greer, one of the two Republican members of the five-member Davidson County Election Commission. Mr. Greer was so angry he could barely control himself. (For the benefit of readers who aren't familiar with Middle Tennessee, Nashville/Davidson County is a Metro area, in which the city and county governments are combined.)
He informed Phil and his listeners that earlier today, someone was bringing in vanloads of non-English-speaking Mexicans with no identification to one of the Nashville early voting locations. Along with the non-English speaking individuals came a bilingual woman to act as their interpreter. She informed the election personnel that she would accompany the voters into the booth, read the ballot for them, and insure that their vote was cast for the candidates of their choice.
The Davidson County Election Commission, including its Democrat members, decided that the individuals would not be allowed to vote on the grounds that since they were unable to speak, understand, or read English, they could not possibly be citizens, and therefore were not qualified to vote. In addition, Mr. Greer mentioned that these people were unable even to request the assistance of a translator themselves. Accordingly, Ray Barrett, Davidson County Administrator of Elections, instructed his employees to refuse to allow any of these individuals to vote.
However, someone prevailed upon Mr. Barrett to call the state in order to verify the Commission's decision. Brook Thompson, the Tennessee State Election Coordinator, then ordered Mr. Barrett and the Davidson County Election Commission to allow these non-English-speaking individuals to vote through their bilingual interpreter despite their lack of any sort of identification and total unfamiliarity with the English language.
Phil and Mr. Greer briefly discussed what could be done. They agreed that the only possible remedy would be for the Tennessee Republican Party to file suit in a Federal court. He told Phil that while he intended to urge the state GOP to make the effort, in view of the recent refusal of a Federal court to grant relief to State Sen. Rosalyn Kurita (whose legitimate Democrat primary win was overturned by the big shots of her party in revenge for her vote in favor of a Republican Lt. Governor), he held out little hope that it would be successful. He also noted that even if a court should decide that the votes of these people were illegal, there is no mechanism for withdrawing them. These are not provisional ballots. Once cast, they are inviolate.
There were several more phone calls in quick succession.
First, Brook Thompson himself called up. He told Phil that Federal law requires that these people be allowed to vote with the help of an interpreter if they wish. He pointed out that in some jurisdictions with a higher percentage of non-English-speaking individuals, the Feds require that ballots and registration materials be printed in four or five languages. Therefore, he insisted that he had no choice but to allow these people to vote.
Phil asked him about the requirement that prospective voters must be able to produce valid identification, and Thompson admitted that this is correct. However, he shifted the burden for enforcement back to the Davidson County Election Commission. When Phil asked him if he intended to send someone down to investigate why the ID requirement was not being enforced, Thompson began to stammer and splutter a bit, and finally gave a noncommittal answer to the effect that he'd look into it.
The next phone call was from a woman identified only as Barbara, who is apparently an officer in the Republican Women's organization. She informed Phil that aside from the identification requirement, Brook Thompson is ignoring another legal mandate of which he is definitely aware. She insisted that the law requires that a prospective voter who desires the assistance of an interpreter must personally request such assistance. In other words, the interpreter is not permitted to go up to the election officials and inform them that she intends to go into the booth and help the voter. She explained that the law includes that provision as protection for the voter against coercion and other forms of voter fraud. Unquestionably, Barbara was accusing Brook Thompson of deliberately ignoring that provision of the law, and thus allowing illegals to vote.
Within a few minutes, a man called up who informed Phil that he had been involved in Tennessee elections for 20 years, and was intimately familiar with the applicable laws. He agreed with Barbara, and added that Brook Thompson is not an attorney, and is not an authority on election law, but is a political appointee – appointed by Democrats. This gentleman disputed Thompson's assertion that Federal law mandates that voters be permitted to use an interpreter. According to him, elections are governed by state law, which plainly requires that any voter who wishes to use an interpreter must personally request permission to do so from the election personnel. He vehemently disagreed with Thompson's decision allowing these non-English-speaking people with no valid identification to vote in a Tennessee election.
The caller also informed Phil and his listeners that any voter has the right to challenge any other voter's qualifications. He advised all of us not to depend solely upon the election personnel, but to take the initiative and inform them of any questionable or suspicious activity which we observe at a polling place.
That's where the matter ended for today. Since it's now Friday evening, it is unlikely that there will be any new developments until Monday, 10/20.
Wednesday, 10/22/08, 5:00 AM:
As of yesterday afternoon, there have been no further developments. Phil Valentine reported that he has spoken to various law enforcement authorities, and none have been willing to look into this egregious violation of election laws.
During yesterday's program, Phil spoke by phone with Quin Hillyer, Associate Editorial Page Editor of the Washington Examiner. Quin's paper just published his column Quin-essential cases: No Righting Voting Wrongs in Ohio covering similar voting irregularities in Ohio.
When Phil informed Quin of these recent occurrences in Nashville, his first reaction was a gasp of surprise. He then remarked, "This election is being stolen right from under our noses."
Phil is now trying to formulate a plan for some sort of direct action designed to force the relevant authorities to do their jobs. He's been successful in such efforts in the past. For instance, he was responsible for the famous 2001 horn-blowing mass demonstration at the Tennessee State Capitol which resulted in the defeat of then-Gov. Don Sundquist's proposed income tax. Whether he'll be able to devise a successful strategy this time remains to be seen, but if I were a betting man, I'd be putting my money on Phil.
"This election is being stolen right from under our noses." - Quin Hillyer
And I agree with him in that an attempt is undoubtedly being made to steal the election... But I'm not willing to jump the gun and say it has been stolen... That will be answered on the morning of November the 5th.
And if it has been stolen: The question is, what do we do about it? Do we just sit here and let them take it from us through theft, hoping that we can correct the problems in four years with the next election? With the Thugocracy action that we have seen as of late, do we have any assurances that there will be a "next election?" Do not forget Presidential Directive 51, and the fact the "Plugs" Biden has mentioned "we’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis..." That crisis would, under PD51, allow a president to stay in office until the crisis was deemed "over."
Do we take action if we see the election stolen? What action do we take? How do we take that action? What do we do, folks?
I am a "pray for the best, but prepare for the worst" kind of guy... I have a 4 year old that I hope can grow up in a great country without civil unrest and militant action. My parents, a younger part of the "greatest generation" that fought in WWII or helped through scrap drives, explained to me the protesting hippies of the sixties as the "greatly educated people with no common sense, that think they can change the world with signs and songs. The trouble is that the rest of the world doesn't read their signs or listen to their songs - let along agree with them." The problem is now that the socialist/communist/hippie faction of that generation has come to that realization also, they are taking steps that go beyond signs and songs. They have figured out that those things were being ignored. William Ayers figured that out before a lot of the others did, and created the Weather Underground. Weather Underground may have died out, but its leadership and those that think in the same way haven't. Just as any terrorist group needs a political wing (The IRA has its Sein Fein), those that would see this country turn to socialism have created their own political party (or rather hi-jacked one) in today's Democrat Party. Even so, since they can't win elections on their heavily disguised socialist policies and platforms (there are more "Joe the Plumbers" than they counted on and JTP's can see through their lies) they are going to try and steal elections. It has always been that way...
What do we do? Let's talk about it...
NO HIT AND RUN POSTS OF "BUY LOTS OF GUNS AND AMMO, TODAY!", PLEASE... IF YOU WISH TO TALK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT PATRIOTIC ACTIONS, THAT'S FINE, BUT LET'S HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION.
Regards,
Raven6
Mercy!
If they can’t turn these people away, they should be voting a provisional ballot!
Did you see this, nana?
Huh????? How could anyone vote in TN if their name is not on the roll of registered voters? One form of ID is required. TN doesn’t have same-day registration!
IF YOU WISH TO TALK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT PATRIOTIC ACTIONS, THAT’S FINE, BUT LET’S HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION.
Your statement implies that it is neither intelligent nor patriotic to endorse the right to keep and bear arms. I find your statement to be both unintelligent and unpatriotic!
I’ll pass on trying to carry on a discussion with you...
Don’t they have voter rolls, were these folks listed on the voter rolls? If not, let’s all get in the car and drive to Nashville, walk in and demand to vote.
Thankfully in Florida, not only do we have rolls, but we need photo identification in order to vote. Here are the requirements:
At the polls, you will be asked to provide a valid picture identification with signature. The following photo ids will be accepted:
Florida driver’s license
Florida identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles
United States passport
Debit or credit card
Military identification
Student identification
Retirement center identification
Neighborhood association identification
Public assistance identification.
If your photo identification does not contain your signature, you will be asked to provide an additional identification that includes a signature.
If you do not have the proper identification, you will be provided with a provisional ballot. Your provisional ballot will count if the signature on the provisional ballot envelope matches the signature on your voter registration application.
In my precinct in Colorado they check your ID and verify you are a registered voter before giving you a ballot. I wonder if they check ID in places like Denver?
My question, as well. Were these bussed-in people registered?
In TN they accept any one of four forms of ID, the driver’s license being the only one of them that has a photo (duh). But one’s name has to appear on the rolls for that county during early voting.
In Massachusetts new voters will have an asterisk on the voting sheets at the polling station and when asking for a ballot will have to provide a picture id first.
That crisis would, under PD51, allow a president to stay in office until the crisis was deemed “over.”
Do you have a link for this PD? It’s news to me and certainly sounds unconstitutional.
I don’t know. I either have to produce a valid ID or a voter’s registration card. The poll worker then looks up my name and asks me to sign by my name. I then receive a piece of paper with my name on it that I sign also and give to another poll worker who is operating the polling machines.
The only way someone who has no ID is allowed to vote is if the poll workers allow them to.
I’m an election judge in Maryland. If people come to vote and there is no record of them in the poll books but they claim they are registered, they can only cast a provisional ballot. However, that vote will only count if they are subsequently verified as registered. Stuffing the election process with invalid ballots will not cause a fraudulent outcome.
I think I;ll go to the pols in Nashville and tell them my name is Jose Gringo, produce no ID, and DEMAND that I be allowed to vote.
“Stuffing the election process with invalid ballots will not cause a fraudulent outcome.”
And since has that been undesirable with ‘Rats?
The correct patriotic action, in this case, is to destroy the ballot boxes in question using whatever force is necessary.
This is why we need more poll watchers! Anyone can contact their local campaign headquarters and volunteer. They’ll train you and put you on a shift. Even if you can only volunteer for one half-day shift, every little bit helps. Take a day off from work, your country will thank you! I volunteered for 3 different days of early voting here in Nashville. The first day was uneventful. But just one incident of this sort can threaten our vote, and it needs to be stopped dead in its tracks.
Might be a good idea for Conservatives in Swing States to video monitor polling locations from a distance to catch things like this on camera. I’m sure there will be numerous types of these “events” all over the place in the swing states. It could prove very useful should any legal actions follow after election day.
Thanks for the PING, AuntB...
First time I’ve heard about it...
I’m not surprised...
The whole scheme is illegal...
Illegal aliens..
Illegal voting...
Illegal decisions...
Ad Nauseum...
Won't work in my Nashville precinct (I run the machines). Our precinct captain runs a tight ship.
Name must be on the rolls, not checked for early voting, and valid ID (from official list) must be presented showing an address inside the precinct boundaries.
Those rules are supposed to be followed everywhere.
In 2004 I turned away the Vanderbilt football coach because the ID he presented did not have the same address as that on the rolls - he went home and got an up to date ID.
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