Obama's Culture of Death and the Catholic Vote

The American Thinker ^ | October 22, 2008 | Kyle-Anne Shiver

[St. Louis Conservative]

Most analysts agree that it will not be possible for Barack Obama to win this election without the votes of the majority of Catholic voters. Measured at approximately 25% of the American electorate, Catholic voters often determine electoral outcomes in a number of important battleground states. And overall, the candidate who garners the majority of their votes, wins the national election.

According to polling data internals, the Catholic vote is still absolutely up for grabs. It's currently split right about down the middle.

And Barack Obama has made no secret of his intention to override the Pope's authority in seeking the Catholic vote. Obama contends that the other matters of "social justice," like global poverty and ending war are on an equal footing with the matters of life -- abortion and euthanasia, particularly.

Not only do Barack Obama's positions on human life issues lie in absolute contradiction with Pope Benedict XVI, his positions are the most radical of any post-Roe candidate ever to seek the Presidency. Far more radical than Bill Clinton, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton.

Obama has at least been forthright in proclaiming that the very first thing he will do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act, which codifies Roe in national law and strikes down every single protective restriction to abortion in all 50 states, including parental notification and partial-birth abortion bans.

And 35 years of valiant pro-life work to provide even the most meager protections for our unborn citizens go... Poof!

[Jeff Head]

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[Jim Noble]

This article brings up one of my favorite subjects.

Catholic conservatives like to say things like "Catholics oppose abortion".

But of course, if by "Catholics oppose" you mean "51% of Catholics oppose", you are obviously wrong. Catholic voters are the backbone of the abortion franchise in this country. They elect, and re-elect, the most depraved and bloodthirsty Senators who have preserved Roe v. Wade against Reagan and Bush I & II. If Catholics voted against abortion, Joe Biden would not be in the Senate. Ted Kennedy would not be in the Senate.

And Robert Bork would be on the Supreme Court. And Roe would have been history long ago.

Now, I know you will respond that all those Catholic voters who troop to the polls year after year to elect Kennedy, and Kerry, and Reed, and Durbin, and Biden, and Mikulski, and Cantwell, and Murray, and on and on "aren't real Catholics".

Maybe not. But real Catholic bishops, in communion with a real Catholic pope, give these not-so-real Catholic Senators communion out of their own hands every time there's a chance for a photo op.

That's Catholic enough, by any reasonable definition.

[WSGilcrest]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp

Sorry this is the only copy of this email I can find right now (coffee’s not even hot yet!) but it’s an excellent read.

~Stu

[SaintDismas]

I am Catholic sir, and sick and sad, agree with you. But, as one famous saint (can’t remember his name) said, “The skulls of Bishops pave the floor of hell”, or something to that effect.

I’m gonna rely on a couple of better Catholics than I — Help me out here Salvation or NYer! We need to pray for these people, their souls are in mortal danger.

[ExiledChicagoan]

The 11th Ward in Chicago, birthplace of 6 Chicago mayors, is predominately Catholic. Many are city workers and ward heelers on election days. They go to church every Sunday, send their kids to Catholic schools. Still in all, entire precincts in the ward vote 100% democrat and then receive communion the next Sunday. Abortion? Oh that’s terrible, they tsk,tsk, and then vote straight democrat.

On top of that, the local parish priests, bishop(s) and the cardinal who heads up the archdiocese have their heads so far up the asses of Mayor Daley and all his coat holders that they can’t see the light of day.

It’s been like this since the 1930s.

[reegs]

My wife and I can’t believe how many people we thought were “Good Catholics” have Obama signs posted in their yards! I pray that the Lord opens these peoples’ eyes before they make the most important vote regarding the sanctity of life thus far in history.

[ardara]

With Catholic Bishops united as never before I feel strongly that Obama will not get a majority of the Catholic vote. For the first time Churches like mine are having prayer and adoration all day on Election day for the pro-life candidates.

[Tennessee Nana]

35 years of valiant pro-life work to provide even the most meager protections for our unborn citizens
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Unfortunately, pro-life work has not been going on for 35 years...

If it had, there might not be 50,000 dead babies...

35 years ago it was not a popular fad to fight against abortion..

It was called “a Catholic issue” and fed protestants got involved...

Any “valiant” attempt at turning the tide of the slaughter of innocents was done by a handful of tireless, heroic Catholics...

The Catholics begged the Protestant churches to help but they refused...

It was well into the 1980s, just 20 years ago, that the pro-life movement became an acceptable “thing to do”

[Tennessee Nana]

fed=few

[Tennessee Nana]

Count that as 50,000,000... 50 MILLION dead babies

[rochester_veteran]

I'm a Catholic, a Veteran, a conservative and a pro-lifer. I will not vote for Obama/Biden for a number of reasons, but the paramount reason is their support of abortion and infanticide.

I am actively working, through my blog, RochesterConservative.com, and through interactions with people, to spread the word that as a Catholic, it would be wrong to vote for Obama/Biden because of their demonstrated record and words in support of abortion. You can't be a Catholic and receive the Eucharist when you support abortion, plain and simple.

Please, stop with the Catholic bashing!

[mom3boys]

I’m a devout Catholic and I agree with you.

Maybe a better term than “real” Catholic would be “ignorant,” “un-catechized” or “mis-catechized” Catholics. Unfortunately, that is the majority of Catholics.

These Catholics justify voting for pro-abortion politicians by the “Conscience” argument: that their conscience is more important than scripture or any religious authority. As long as their conscience tells them it’s okay, then everything is hunky-dory. They don’t know, or refuse to admit, that that conscience has to be a well formed, educated conscience (formed by prayer, reading of the Scriptures, study of the teachings of the Faith). The priests and bishops are there to guide, but so many of them don’t.

Sad to say, I know many Catholics like this. Toss in the general ignorance of political issues that most people have and you have a Catholic Obama voter.

[NYer]

This article brings up one of my favorite subjects.

I do recall you bringing this up on other threads. Was the question not answered before? Salvation has posted lengthy lists of links to threads on this very topic. Perhaps she can repeat them here.

And I would like to ask you a question, as well. A large number of Catholic bishops have been very outspoken throughout this election campaign. Where are the voices of Protestant and Jewish religious leaders? I would appreciate any links you can post to those threads. Thanks.

[Salvation]

Reagardless of what REAL Catholics or CINOs say, here is the position of the Catholic Church:

It's right out there for all to know -- so I don't think you can bash all Catholics; some are just misinformed.

1:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches 1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm

97%

2:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches 2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm

96%

3:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches 2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3), URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm

96%

4:	CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2274  (554 bytes )  preview document matches gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

[Salvation]

“The walls of hell are lined with the skulls of bishops.”
Saint John of the Cross

“The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.”
Attributed to St. Athanasius, St. John Chrysostom, and St. John Eudes. Probably all three said it, but I like to give credit to Athanasius because he was the earliest.

[Salvation]

Put this on their cars:

I do believe we are witnessing the fruits of Pope Benedict's meeting with them (Catholic Bishops) earlier this year. Following Vespers, he addressed all the bishops.

"Is it consistent to profess our beliefs in church on Sunday, and then during the week to promote business practices or medical procedures contrary to those beliefs? Is it consistent for practicing Catholics to ignore or exploit the poor and the marginalized, to promote sexual behavior contrary to Catholic moral teaching, or to adopt positions that contradict the right to life of every human being from conception to natural death? Any tendency to treat religion as a private matter must be resisted. Only when their faith permeates every aspect of their lives do Christians become truly open to the transforming power of the Gospel. "
FULL TEXT

[Salvation]

New video from CatholicVote.com

Powerful
http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2008/09/new-video-from-catholicvotecom.html

[Salvation]

Cardinal Ratzinger (now the Pope) wrote in his letter to Cardinal McCarrick back in 2004:

“A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate’s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favor of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.”

[Salvation]

Obviously, they do not realize that they are excommunicating themselves from the Catholic Church by supporting abortion. Read the reference from the Catechism.