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Poor and Old more likely to have landlines - Are they skewing the polls?
Vanity | today | jerodcan

Posted on 10/22/2008 4:28:13 AM PDT by jerod

Almost all polling is still done with people who have landlines.

Who has landlines?

I don’t. A couple of years ago I did but I dropped mine, and I’ll bet a lot of other people dropped theirs too. If you have a cellphone, you can call anybody anytime you want. Why bother paying two bills?

So who are the people with landlines?

I’d venture to say that poor people and older people are probably more likely to have landlines. Young people, rich people and conservative spenders, those who are smart enough to figure out that 1 bill is better than 2, do not have landlines.

Poor people and old people trend more Democratic than most voters. Therefore, I believe the polls during this election are much more skewed in favor of Democrats than in any previous election.

It’s just a theory, but we’ll see come election night.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; landline; leftwingconspiracy; polls
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1 posted on 10/22/2008 4:28:13 AM PDT by jerod
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To: jerod

Yep! that’s me, old and poor.


2 posted on 10/22/2008 4:31:09 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological Narcissist as president.")
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To: jerod

I still have a landline but only to get DSL service.


3 posted on 10/22/2008 4:32:07 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: jerod

We’ve got DSL. ...and a fax machine. That implies a land-line.


4 posted on 10/22/2008 4:32:17 AM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: jerod

I would not be without a land line.....no one I know at work or among my acquaintences only has cell phones.


5 posted on 10/22/2008 4:32:40 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: jerod

On what please, do you base your “poor” portion of this vanity?

I understand the point, and agree pollsters really don’t have any good way of dealing (either) with the increasing use of cell/blackberries.

But it seems a big leap to presume those not infatuated with tech gimmicks, make their decisions based on being broke.


6 posted on 10/22/2008 4:33:26 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 87 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: jerod
Meh. We have a landline, I f'ing hate cellphones. We keep two prepaid cellphones which we only take for emergency use when we go out. They're always shut off.

The Left uses the landline argument on their side too - say young people, who tend to vote Democrat, overwhelmingly favor cellphones over landlines.

I don't think the poor argument works much either. Seems like the poorer someone is, the more likely they are to have a fancy cellphone.

7 posted on 10/22/2008 4:33:26 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: jerod
Let's see, DSL for the computer at home needs a landline...
OH! and then there's the two Hi Def flat panel TVs hooked up to Dish Network that need to be connected to landline...
Yep! Guess that makes me "old and poor"!
8 posted on 10/22/2008 4:36:49 AM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money ("I'm not voting for McCain... I'm voting for Sarah Palin in November.")
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To: jerod

I keep a landline.

Can you get a reverse 911 on your cell?


9 posted on 10/22/2008 4:38:19 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: jerod

Polling on a cell phone would incur usage charges on the recipient of such calls - that’s a big fat No-No! I would say that what’s potentially skewing polls is caller ID.


10 posted on 10/22/2008 4:38:21 AM PDT by meyer (We are all Joe the Plumber)
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To: jerod

No land line here. Both sons and daughter’s home no land line.

After Sprint broadband was made available in my area no reason for land line.

All in my family are voting Republican.


11 posted on 10/22/2008 4:38:52 AM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: jerod

We use VOIP, but caller ID shows “blocked” from any solicitations, and that would include people calling to take a poll. During this polling season, I have occasionally answered a “blocked” call just to see if it was a pollster, and once it was. I had a couple preliminary questions asked of me and then they told me I didn’t fit the demographic they were looking for, sigh, I tried, LOL.


12 posted on 10/22/2008 4:39:04 AM PDT by Dawn531
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To: nuconvert
Can you get a reverse 911 on your cell?

Reverse 911? For WHAT?

13 posted on 10/22/2008 4:39:39 AM PDT by meyer (We are all Joe the Plumber)
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I got a call last night on the land line asking for my 20 year old daughter. This will be her first Presidential election and she recently registered. Regrettably, she has fallen under the spell on The One. When I told the pollster she wasn’t home, he polled me thinking They were interested in which local campaign commercials were convincing or not. Otherwise it was a straight up how certain is it that you will vote and who will you vote for survey. There was no apparent bias. I assume it was a candidate doing the poll, but I couldn’t tell who. I’ve gotten push polls before at this wasn’t one.

I found it interesting they called my daughter. She has never voted in any election before, but did recently register. My only conclusion is they are trying to determine what kind of turnout this demographic might have.


14 posted on 10/22/2008 4:41:02 AM PDT by IamConservative (On 11/4, remember 9/11...)
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To: jerod

During the polling for the 1932 election, the first election in which they did extensive telephone polling, Hoover had a modest lead over Roosevelt. However, as every Freeper knows, Hoover lost. The polling had skewed toward those who could afford telephones.
In the quarter century since then, we have come full circle.


15 posted on 10/22/2008 4:41:02 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: Zeddicus
"Seems like the poorer someone is, the more likely they are to have a fancy cellphone."

I totally agree with this statement...at least in the area where I live...all have cells and usually the latest in high tech...be it computers or TV's...I remember when our city was installing fiber optic cables (tv, phone & internet service)...guess where the cables were put in first??...yep...at the government subsidized housing projects...

16 posted on 10/22/2008 4:42:39 AM PDT by ~Vor~ (It is better to shoot for the stars and miss than to aim for the gutter and hit it...Anonymous)
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To: jerod
I have a land line and a cell phone.

So I guess it depends on which one I use at any given time,to

figure out which category I will be lumped into.

17 posted on 10/22/2008 4:43:09 AM PDT by tapatio
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To: jerod

THe poor people I’ve seenhave cells.

My 85 y/o mom has one.

GO FIGURE!


18 posted on 10/22/2008 4:43:22 AM PDT by Reagan69
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To: meyer

I’ve had several.....asking people to watch for a missing child in the area, warning about a police search for a suspect in the area, I think they may do it for extreme weather conditions also.


19 posted on 10/22/2008 4:43:28 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists// Rove>Biden is a Big,Blowhard Dufus)
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To: jerod

There is much research on landline abandonment. It is a growing trend but not yet extant. And it is true that wireless only peeps tend to be younger, income not a key determinant. It is possible that Obama has more supporters among abandonees than McCain.


20 posted on 10/22/2008 4:45:40 AM PDT by major-pelham
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