Posted on 10/21/2008 9:14:12 AM PDT by pissant
One of the most intense allegations of the ongoing lawsuit against Sen. Barack Obama alleging ineligibility for the presidency is whether or not Mr. Obama can produce his birth certificate.
If Mr. Obama were to produce his birth certificate, it would lay the entire question to rest. It would prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the U.S. government officially recognizes Mr. Obama's citizenship. The Obama campaign says that it has already produced this document, a scanned copy of which is available at the campaign's "Fight the Smears" Web site.
One point critics of Mr. Obama have made is the fact that the document posted is not, in fact, a birth certificate. It is a birth certification, which is a computer-generated printout of a birth record. A certification is a cheap print-off for people who have lost their original birth certificates. For most people, there is little practical difference between a certificate of live birth and a certification of live birth, although the certification requires extra verification when being used like a birth certificate.
Because of the tenuous nature of identifying a certification of birth as genuine, it requires an embossed seal and authoritative signature. The low-resolution scan available on the Obama campaign Web site appears to have neither of those. The ink from a date stamp, "June 6, 2007," is visible clearly, but it appears that the document does not have a seal or signature. The campaign only scanned the front of the document.
Without the seal and signature, the document on the Obama Web site lacks legal weight, and does not count as representing the official birth record of Mr. Obama.
Philip Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, has filed suit against Mr. Obama, alleging that he is not legally qualified to serve as president. He has indicated that if Mr. Obama were to produce certified documents proving that he is a natural born citizen, he will withdraw his case.
Mr. Berg maintains that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, but others wonder if there are more reasons why Mr. Obama and the Democratic National
Committee have not laid the question to rest by releasing the documents. Some think that there may be embarrassing information about Mr. Obama that could be inferred from the papers.
The original birth certificate would normally have an entry for religion, and many suppose he would have been listed as Muslim, an image Mr. Obama has worked hard to distance himself from. Others think it might have shown that his parents were not legally married, even though Mr. Obama contends that his parents were married in good faith before separating upon discovering his father had never divorced his last wife.
The Obama campaign says that the idea that Mr. Obama is not natural born is preposterous and cites the certification of birth as an example. But until a physical and verifiable document is produced for their critics, the lawsuit is expected to continue.
Ping to #187 and #194 on this thread.
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Fred Nerks wrote:
“please look at this video, my speakers have died and I can’t listen....”
Obama’s Diaspora - Kenya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MLKH7__IEo&feature=related
187 posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:42:12 PM by Fred Nerks
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Godsgirl commented:
” 2 minutes and 47 seconds into the video, one of barak obama’s cousins,
admits that barak is originally from kenya.
You have to listen closely to her because her accent is slightly difficult to understand.
“She says “muslim kenyans would be so uplifted because he is originally form Kenya.” They were talking about his presidency when she made that comment.”
194 posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:46:23 PM by Godsgirl
I do not know how legit Obama’s # is. But my guess is that Obama is colluding with the corrupt HI officials in the coverup.
He could have laid this to rest ages ago by coughing up a certified copy of his birth certificate, not some modern version that is subject to all kinds of fraud and is far less than definitive.
Thanks Lucy
I only listened for a few minutes to hear Berg--and just got a small portion of what all he was going to talk about.
I often worry about Mike when he exposes King Willie. King Willie is one scarry brotha!
Yep, the AP does another hit piece on Palin for taking her kids along with her on trips. But no investigation into Obama or Biden. How about at least mentioning Obama didn’t pay his parking tickets for 20 years?
It will be great when AP and the NY Times goes out of business. NBC is cutting a half billion from their budget. After this election is over, the media is going to crash and burn. It’s free market at work. If you don’t provide a product the public wants, you go out of business. When the MSM is so biased, they are cutting 50% of their potential customers right up front. Definitely limits your market potential.
Yes, she did say he is “originally from Kenya.” Americans would usually take her statement to mean that he was born in Kenya. But could it be that she was using the phrase in a more figurative manner, namely that his ancestral roots are in Kenya? Without any familiarity with the native culture and use of language there, I really can’t be sure.
The YouTube video also mentioned that Odinga - who encouraged riots after losing the Kenyan election last year - is also very popular in the area where Obama’s ancestral roots are.
obumpa
Ding ding ding ding ding--
And travelling Thursday to silence his typical white grandmother currently under house arrest in Hawaii after slashing open the couch cushions for keys to the safety deposit boxes with any incriminating documents.
U.S. Constitution Article II Section 1 Paragraph 5 "natural born citizen" he ain't.
The End.
Has everybody been hiding under rocks from June 12 to now??
Do they even bother to read Phil Berg's lawsuit?
Did they not even hear that the COLB IMAGE IS A FORGERY??
THIS is what happens when the MSM doesn't carry a story and in the last two weeks of the election, every "investigative journalist" is atuck back in June.
There all better.
wILL BILL aYERS GET A SECURITY CLEARANCE TO SLEEP IN THE LINCOLN BEDROOM AFTER HE WINS?
Elected Officials do not have to get security clearances according to the FBI interview I read.
"Election officials do have authority to block a presidential candidate from appearing on the November ballot, if that candidate is not eligible under the Constitution. The California Supreme Court in 1968 upheld Secretary of State Frank Jordan's keeping Eldridge Cleaver off the ballot as the Peace & Freedom Party candidate for president because he wasn't yet age 35. But the Secretary of State acknowledged that the electors themselves had a right to run, so the Nov. 1968 California ballot had a blank for president under the Peace & Freedom label, but carried the name of the vice-presidential candidate, Peggy Terry, since she was eligible. That slate of electors got 27,707 votes."
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