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Folks, this Presidential race is over
Various ^ | 10/21/08 | Impeached Rapist

Posted on 10/21/2008 6:00:23 AM PDT by impeachedrapist

Obama's numbers in OH stink, and PA isn't much better. He's hurting in FL. McCain's putting on the pressure in NH, WI, MN, IA, CO, VA and rumor has it even MI again. And McCain/Palin are just now employing their ad blitz. Life is good, and barring a major October/November surprise the lightweight Marxist has been defeated.

But we still have plenty of work to do. There are a bunch of vulnerable freshmen Dem representatives in the House. The GOP has about 20 realistic pick-up opportunities. See my list below:

AL-05
AZ-05
CA-11
GA-08
IL-14
KS-02
KY-03
LA-06
MS-01
NH-01
NH-02
NY-20
PA-07
PA-08
PA-10
PA-11
TX-22
TX-23
WI-08
And my personal favorite! PA-12 (tough, but doable thanks to Murtha the Marine smearing racist)

Details on these races (website links, voting percentages, fundraising numbers, etc.) are here spread throughout this thread.

The current count is Dems 233, GOP 202. The Pubbies unfortunately do have to defend a lot of seats due to retirement. To retake the House they'd need to basically run the table on defending those seats and win about 16 of those above pick-up opportunities. Possible, but not likely. However, a solid McCain/Palin win in this anti-incumbent environment could provide enough of a push. And just cutting into the Dems' current 31-seat lead, after months of them gloating, will be very demoralizing.

If you've been thinking about donating your time and/or money, now's the time.


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To: Scythian

Too bad positive attitudes don’t win elections?

One thing is certain, negative attitudes LOSE elections.

The Plunger brigade was out in force in Comming Ga. yesterday. Plungers, enthusiastic HAPPY Republicans,
great LOUD music, right on the main throughfair.

I didn’t see a single Obasign driving around.
I’m sure downtown Atlanta has it’s share, but in the hinterlands it’s Mc/P.

We have got to get out and show we are not fighting this fight alone, too much is at stake.

Send Sarah and John to Washington with a MANDATE!


341 posted on 10/26/2008 1:21:07 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: srmorton
Speaking of Hillary, I am still not convinced that she is not going to pull something this last week. It will never be traced to her, but, if Obama truly seems poised to win, she will do something - just like Gore's people did in 2000 when that ancient DUI story was released. Bush would have won by a much more comfortable margin if that had not come out the week-end before the election.

No matter what Obama has promised her, she will never just sit by and let him completely destroy her dream of being the first female POTUS. She figures - get rid of him and run against Sarah in 2012 and she is in like Flint. (Wrong assumption, but I digress.) If Obama wins, it is doubtful that she could wrest the nomination from him unless he is a complete disaster as POTUS. He would be, but she can not count on that.
342 posted on 10/26/2008 1:21:22 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: srmorton

“I live in NC and there is NO WAY that Obama is going to come close to winning this state. That is one way that I know a lot of these polls are bogus. “

I suggest you (and everyone else who keeps shouting that NC and VA could never vote for Obama) check out this morning’s article from The Washington Times (the _conservative_ paper, not the Washington ComPost):
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/26/the-color-purple-one-of-change/
It’s quite an eye-opener.

- John


343 posted on 10/26/2008 6:41:03 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman

Would you like me to pull up some articles from 2004 discussing how Kerry was changing the equation in VA and NC?


344 posted on 10/26/2008 6:55:49 AM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Fishrrman
I do not know why an obviously intelligent man would believe an article from the Washington Post rather than a 58 YO well-educated woman who has lived in NC all her life. I do not personlly know about VA, but I believe the word of those who live there rather than the MSM. I can see the way the McCain/Palin signs out-number the Obama signs. I talk to people all the time that tell me they are not voting for Obama. If he is not up by over 5% in NC (and he is down by at least 2%), Obama will NOT win NC. Southern Baptist Jimmy Carter barely pulled it out in 1976 and that was right after Watergate and it was against Gerald Ford, the man who had pardoned the evil Richard Nixon.

Check out this FR posting from earlier today: PUMA pollster: "McCain will definitely win FL, OH, NC, MO and NV..." hillbuzz.wordpress.com
345 posted on 10/26/2008 12:49:37 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: srmorton

bttt


346 posted on 10/26/2008 12:55:13 PM PDT by scratcher (I trust the media about as much as I trust al Qaeda.)
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To: srmorton

Bump


347 posted on 10/26/2008 3:26:22 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Fishrrman
What a steaming pantload.

Try this verbatim quote:

Military voters, who favored President Bush in 2004, have overwhelmingly been making donations to the Obama campaign over Mr. McCain, a decorated Vietnam veteran. The Democratic ticket has made frequent visits to the pockets of Virginia and North Carolina that boast big populations of military families. Dozens of troops and their children waited to catch a glimpse of Mr. Obama at a recent rally in Fayetteville, home of Fort Bragg.

Hear that? Dozens!

And there is no verification that they are really troops; and their children are only registered by Acorn.

And get a load of the follow-up quotes:

"I have a child with diabetes and I have a son who did two tours in Iraq. And I just feel like President Bush, with his policies, has tried to kill both of my kids," said Mrs. Pirner, a teacher in Barrackville, W.Va.

They are quoting TEACHERS from WEST VIRGINIA to prove that North Carolina is going for Barack?

Even for a troll, this should have stood out as enough to discredit the article.

Now we move into the class warfare "worst economy in the last 50 years" Jeremiad:

They have seen record unemployment, and young families that moved there from more expensive parts of the Northeast are seeing their health care costs skyrocket.

Record unemployment? As of July 2008, according to CNN, Virginia unemployment was 4.0%. West Virginia was 5.3%. North Carolins was 6.0%.

Sigh. Sometimes there are so many fish in the barrel, you run out of ammo.

Better luck next time, troll.

Cheers!

348 posted on 10/26/2008 5:59:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Better luck next time, troll”

Cheers back to you, my FRiend.

We will see in another week just how North Carolina and Virginia vote.

I would prefer to see overwhelming majorities for McCain. But I think the results are going to be dismaying.

How’s the Virginia Republican for the Senate polling, as of late?

- John


349 posted on 10/26/2008 7:30:36 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: srmorton

“I do not know why an obviously intelligent man would believe an article from the Washington Post rather than a 58 YO well-educated woman who has lived in NC all her life”

Ummmm... go back and see where the article I posted CAME FROM.

It was NOT from “The Washington Post”.

Learn to read before you reply.

- John


350 posted on 10/26/2008 7:31:46 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: RedRover

>> No more AmeriCAN’T and RepubliCAN’T.

>> AmeriCAN and RepubliCAN in November!

I like your attitude :)

I like to think we have no choice in the matter at any point until we’re all pushing daisies.

God bless!


351 posted on 10/26/2008 7:38:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Fishrrman
How weighted in the Dems' favor are the polls?

And how are the pollsters overweighting the youth vote and ignoring the PUMA voters and Operation Chaos voters?

Nice try, troll.

Cheers!

352 posted on 10/26/2008 7:57:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Fishrrman
Incidentally -- your troll status is now "Probable" since you didn't bother to acknowledge my refutation of your attempted demoralization article from the Washington Times.

Refutation accomplished, by the way, by quoting the internals of the article.

Just as many of the depressing polls are refuted by examining their internals.

Cheers!

353 posted on 10/26/2008 7:59:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Fishrrman
I CAN READ!!! I have a Masters Degree. I just have a 58 year old brain that sometimes reads what I think the words should say than what the words actually say. It appeared to me to be an article more like the Post than the Times and when you have already clicked on the "post response" button what you are responding to is no longer right in front of your face.

Your rude response does not negate what my main point was. I LIVE IN NC and I know more about what I am hearing and seeing in my own state that you (or any member of the MSM who does not live and work in this state) do.

Ummmm...why don't you try reading the article I referred you to in my response. It is not a "hot" link because my degrees are in Biology and Medical Technology, not Computer Science, but the article refers to internal polls conducted by a Democratic pollster for unions that wanted to know where to best allocate their advertising dollars.
354 posted on 10/26/2008 8:03:30 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Incidentally — your troll status is now “Probable” since you didn’t bother to acknowledge my refutation of your attempted demoralization article from the Washington Times.”

I just found it interesting that The Washington Times - which is known for its conservatism - would run that article in the first place.

It stood out from the usual pieces I read on their website - none of which espouse a liberal line.

That they would even post it, seems to indicate that things aren’t going to be a cakewalk for Mr. McCain in Virginia. If he wins, it will be close. And I _do_ hope that he wins there, as well as in North Carolina.

Again - the votes will do the talkin’ on November 4th!
And I know who I’m voting for... :)

- John


355 posted on 10/26/2008 9:06:24 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman
The contents do not fulfill the headline.

Therefore it is agitprop.

So it doesn't actually add any weight to the cries of "Merciful Lord Obama" coming from the MSM, the Dems, and the trolls.

By the way, are you willing to state publicly and unequivocally on this forum that you are voting for McCain/Palin instead of for Obama/Biden in this presidential election?

Cheers!

356 posted on 10/26/2008 9:08:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

“By the way, are you willing to state publicly and unequivocally on this forum that you are voting for McCain/Palin instead of for Obama/Biden in this presidential election?”

Yup. I DON’T vote for democrats (and refuse to even capitalize that word).

By the way, I would have cheerfully voted for Rudy, too. And for Thompson (my first choice), Huckabee, Romney, Hunter, etc. The only exception might have been Ron Paul. But I still would have voted “R” for the rest of the local ticket.

Now it’s time for YOU to respond my FRiend...

Did you support McCain before the nomination? Or were you one of those here (of whom there were MANY) who said they would NEVER vote for him?
Would you have supported Rudy had he been the nominee?

Cheers back to you!
- John


357 posted on 10/27/2008 6:44:37 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: grey_whiskers

Bump


358 posted on 10/27/2008 5:50:06 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Fishrrman
Do you have a posting history to point to, which indicates your support for Fred?

I'm too busy at work (have to go back for another hour or two yet tonight!) to do the looking through your own history; and you are more familiar with it anyway.

I was a confirmed FREDhead. And I thought that he lost in the polls when the shills and whores at Politico started insinuating before *each* primary that "If he doesn't ace this one, he's dropping out. He's sinking anyway."

Note that Jonathan Martin ("covers" the GOP my ass; stabs in the back is more like it) has #2 on the favorite list of sites as Daily KOS. WTF?

I would not have voted for Rudy "Epic Fail" Guiliani in the general; I was wavering on holding my nose for McCain or sitting out, until Palin was nominated.

Evidence of my enthusiasm for PALIN over McCain is found here,here, and here. Note the posting dates.

As it is, I think McCain can still win: and if we can persuade other GOPers, he may win by over 300 EV. The polls are cooked for Obama in a way I have never seen before, including one a couple of weeks ago which had West Virginia as "leans Obama" with 55% Dems and 35% GOP representation - in which Obama only had an 8-point lead despite the 20-point head start.

It would help your credibility if you would start posting the internals of the polls : e.g. overweighting of minorities and women; overweighting of democrats; overweighting of young voters; analysis of landlines vs. cell phones; and comparing predictions of Dems and pollsters regarding early voting to the trends actually observed (e.g. Dems up by 1000 votes in CA early voting despite predictions of a grass roots tidal wave of early voting).

And if you were able to acknowledge the Operation Chaos and PUMA contibutions -- e.g. the former editor of Ms. Magazine publicly writing an article comparing Palin's brains to famous Democrats of the past...

Cheers!

359 posted on 10/27/2008 6:40:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas; The G Man

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360 posted on 11/02/2008 1:21:42 PM PST by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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