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CA: Tom McClintock on the Propositions
Tom McClintock Website ^ | October 18th, 2008 | Tom McClintock

Posted on 10/20/2008 8:53:46 PM PDT by calcowgirl

Prop. 1A High Speed Rail Bond.  NO
This is the most outrageously expensive boondoggle in California’s long history of outrageously expensive boondoggles.  The ultimate cost of this project could end up exceeding $90 billion – or $10,000 per family – all for a train that goes from Los Angeles to San Francisco in two hours longer than it takes to fly.  It’s brought to you by the same folks who botched Boston’s “Big Dig.”  (I’m one of the official opponents of this measure.)

Prop. 2 Farm Animals.  NO
Sorry, but farm animals are food, not friends.  Plan on somewhat happier cows and much higher grocery bills if this one passes.

Prop. 3 Hospital Bond. NO
Here’s a rather cynical measure that uses children as a front in order to lavish taxpayer funds on private hospital corporations.

Prop. 4 Parental Notification.  YES
Parents must give written consent before their teenage daughters use a tanning booth or get their ears pierced.  This measure simply requires them to be notified if their daughter is having an abortion.

Prop. 5 Non-violent drug offenses.  NO
The fatal flaw in this otherwise decent measure would allow criminals to use their drug offense for leniency for other non-drug-related crimes.

Prop. 6 Police and Law Enforcement Funding. YES
This is a tough call.  My favorite provision is prohibiting the release on bail of illegal aliens charged with violent crimes.  Its principal purpose is to lock up an increasing portion of the state budget for local law enforcement.  Law enforcement should be government’s top priority, but I don’t like auto-pilot spending or using state resources for local programs.  I also don’t like its weakening of the hearsay rule.  On balance I think it does more good than harm, but it’s a very mixed bag.

Prop. 7 Renewable Energy Subsidies.  NO
This will send electricity prices through the roof.  It requires the most expensive energy generation to comprise 20 percent of our electricity needs.  Government should get out of the way and let simple economics determine the mix of energy generation in this state.

Prop. 8 Defense of Marriage Act. YES
Marriage is a unique institution in which a man and a woman summon a child into the world – creating a unique tapestry of responsibilities.  Our marriage laws are designed to support those responsibilities and are simply inapplicable to any other kind of relationship.  Lincoln asked, “If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog?  The answer is four.  Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one.”  And calling a homosexual partnership a marriage doesn’t make it one.

Prop. 9 Parole Reform. YES
This requires the victim to be considered when a suspect’s bail is being set or a criminal’s parole is being determined.  About bloody time.

Prop. 10 Fuel Subsidies.  NO
This $5 billion bond will cost taxpayers $10 billion with interest to subsidize “alternative fuel vehicles” and “renewable energy.”  I’m all for alternative fuel vehicles and renewable energy as long as the consumers who want them pay for them.  But don’t reach into my pocket to pay for somebody else’s choice.

Prop. 11 Redistricting.  YES
This should be the all-time no brainer: voters should choose their politicians and not the other way around.  This measure takes redistricting out of the hands of the legislature, removing an obvious conflict of interest.

Prop. 12 Veterans Bond Act.  YES
This is a self-liquidating bond (meaning taxpayers aren’t on the hook) to assist veterans with home purchases.  The state has done this for many years and it has never cost taxpayers a dime.  I co-authored this one.

 



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calinitiatives; mcclintock; prop11; prop4; prop6; prop8
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To: calcowgirl

Glad that McClintock agrees with me on 11.


42 posted on 10/20/2008 9:36:16 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: calcowgirl
On balance I think it does more good than harm, but it’s a very mixed bag

The use of this kind of stupid logic employed by politicians is how we end up with so much bad legislation fouling up all our lives.

43 posted on 10/20/2008 9:37:43 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: calcowgirl

Mixed bag is right. I couldn’t vote for that as it reads.

Does it look like it’s gonna pass?


44 posted on 10/20/2008 9:40:14 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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To: calcowgirl

Prop 11 IS a no brainer.

It is a start toward a representative government. CA is unusual in having a government that hardly qualifies as a representative democracy. It is absurd that this has been allowed to happen.

The prop. has been written to be non-partisan, which is why is reads a bit oddly. However, there is little that CA has to lose over the terrible situation we are in now. We need more practical politicos in Sacto, who care about those in their districts.

I am sick of meeting with representatives who don’t care about the views of those in their districts. Currently, they answer to interest groups and party radicals; that’s all.

Vote YES on Prop. 11.


45 posted on 10/20/2008 9:41:41 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: calcowgirl
This is but another law in California that will just drive the cost up or push production out of state--or out of country.

I totally agree with your reason.

I also agree with McClintock except for 2 and 6.
46 posted on 10/20/2008 9:47:52 PM PDT by Ugot2Bkidding
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for posting. I had checked his web site just a couple days ago to see what he had to say. It turns out that I only disagree on one proposition.

I feel that measure #6 is irresponsible in that it locks in spending. One of the biggest errors in California in recent years was the passage of the measure locking in spending on education. It has ham strung the budget making process during a time when revenue has been down and all spending should have been facing reductions.


47 posted on 10/20/2008 9:51:40 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: calcowgirl

self-ping


48 posted on 10/20/2008 9:53:34 PM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: paul51
The use of this kind of stupid logic employed by politicians is how we end up with so much bad legislation fouling up all our lives.

I agree. And for 1/2 billion a year of new taxpayer expense, I think they can go back to the drawing board and get it right.

49 posted on 10/20/2008 9:54:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Ugot2Bkidding

I also agree with McClintock except for 2 and 6. Typo I meant 6 and 11


50 posted on 10/20/2008 9:54:15 PM PDT by Ugot2Bkidding
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To: paul51
The use of this kind of stupid logic employed by politicians is how we end up with so much bad legislation fouling up all our lives.

I agree. And for 1/2 billion a year of new taxpayer expense, I think they can go back to the drawing board and get it right.

51 posted on 10/20/2008 9:56:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Yaelle

On the surface prop. 2 sounds innocent enough but thinking about it it is just another step in creeping socialism.

There are plenty of places where you can buy food that comes from animals that were treated humanely. Every grocery store has free range eggs, milk, meats etc.

Let the free market push the other food producers into being more humane, not the govermnent.

I voted no on this (absentee)last week.


52 posted on 10/20/2008 9:56:40 PM PDT by glock_fan
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To: Wiseghy

Prop 11 representative government? How is the panel selected? Oh, yeah... they pull a few names out of the hat and then select their friends to fill in the rest of the seats. How does one get one’s name in the hat? Well, they’re chosen by the State Auditor and a couple of other auditors. Who is the State Auditor? Well that’s the person appointed by the Governor. I’m sure Governor Villaraigosa will give the responsibility to a fine compadre. /s

Seriously—this seems as far away from Representative Government as you can get!


53 posted on 10/20/2008 9:59:54 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for the info and the ping!


54 posted on 10/20/2008 9:59:55 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: americanophile

self-ping


55 posted on 10/20/2008 10:36:41 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: latina4dubya

ping


56 posted on 10/20/2008 10:40:30 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: glock_fan; rivercat; Ugot2Bkidding

rivercat and Ugot2Bkidding,

Prop. 2:

If this proposition passes, who will enforce it? Does this mean animal control or law enforcement can enter your home/property without cause if someone complains, or if there is suspicion?

glock_fan,

“On the surface prop. 2 sounds innocent enough but thinking about it it is just another step in creeping socialism.”

Precisely.

You will notice that the language used is to emotionally manipulate the voter. Who wants to deprive animals of humane treatment? No law abiding citizen. This plays on peoples affections towards animals.

We once had a neighbor down the street whom wanted to rent a house just for the stray cats she collected. Her neighbor (a good friend of ours) had rabbits, a dog, and chickens. Often times, when the dog was outside, it would corner the chickens and take their eggs. The Cat Woman usually called the house and frantically protested, “The dog is KILLING the chickens!!” You couldn’t find a dog gone(pun intended) feather let alone drumsticks scattered all over the lawn.

Now, under this prop., will that call warrant an arrest or citation?

Law abiding American’s shouldn’t have the government overseeing their conduct when it comes to our animals, or anything else for that matter.

They should concern themselves with trying to balance the state/federal budget.


57 posted on 10/20/2008 10:47:00 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Ugot2Bkidding

Sorry I missed your correction. Disregard my post #57.


58 posted on 10/20/2008 11:37:48 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


59 posted on 10/21/2008 2:55:45 AM PDT by E.G.C. (To read a freeper's FR postings, click on his or her screen name and then "In Forum".)
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To: calcowgirl

bump

also, can you please add me to the McClintock ping list? I was on one earlier but it seems to have disbanded.


60 posted on 10/21/2008 3:30:39 AM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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