BIDEN DEFIES POPE & BISHOPS: IS PRO-GAY MARRIAGE (I would vote against Proposition 8)

Catholic League ^ | 102008

[Fred]

On today’s episode of “Ellen,” Joe Biden told Ellen DeGeneres “that if I lived in California, I would vote against Proposition 8.” This initiative reads, “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” Yet in his debate with Sarah Palin on October 2, Biden said that “Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage.”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue weighed in on this today:

“Proposition 8 is a civil initiative that would secure marriage as an institution that is exclusively between a man and a woman, and Joe Biden told Ellen DeGeneres that he is opposed to that measure. In other words, Biden did not tell the truth in his debate with Sarah Palin. He cannot logically be opposed to both gay marriage and Proposition 8, but that is exactly what he is trying to get away with. More important, Biden is openly defying both the pope and the bishops.

“Last year, in his Apostolic Exhortation Sacramentum Caritatis, Pope Benedict XVI pointedly said the following about people like Joe Biden: ‘Worship pleasing to God can never be a purely private matter…it is especially incumbent upon those who, by virtue of their social or political position, must make decisions regarding fundamental values such as respect for human life, its defence from conception to natural death, the family built upon marriage between a man and a woman....These values are not negotiable.’ (My emphasis.)

“Last year, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops issued Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship wherein it said that the family based on marriage between a man and a woman ‘should be defended and strengthened, not redefined or undermined by permitting same-sex unions or other distortions of marriage.’

“Biden is in a major jam. He needs to hold a press conference explaining his irreconcilable moral positions, and why he has chosen to defy the pope and the bishops.”

[A.A. Cunningham]

Defy the pope and the bishops, go to Communion.

Pay an eternal price after your particular judgment.

[TAdams8591]

"obama has said he believes in homo marriage biden/ Palin debate Biden said they do not want homo’s to get married

now on a a liberal homo led show he is for it

which is it?"

You are exactly right! : )

Biden should be excommunicated. In that case he wouldn't be able to receive any of the sacraments, except perhaps the Sacrament of the Sick. (I have to check on that though, to be certain and get back to you.)

[narses]

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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

[GBA]

So...let me get this straight. Biden comes out publicly against some of the basic tenets of Catholicism, much the same as Pelosi did and he is still a Catholic? What the heck is up with that? Do or say whatever you want to, apparently everyone is a Catholic these days. Is a belief in Jesus still required? I guess I’m going to have to buy the latest version of the Bible to see if He is still in it.

[narses]

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters Punished with a Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg

CNN on Obama’s Infant Born Alive Act Rejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY

Jill Stanek on Obama and Born Alive Infant Protection Act (MUST SEE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Obama Cover-up Revealed On Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Bill

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html

Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

Babies left to die!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

[sassy steel magnolia]

excommunicate him!

[I-ambush]

In this case, the only way to oppose same-sex marriage in California is by constitutional ammendment, since the state supreme court overruled the democratic will of the people (expressed through a ballot initiative).

[Tanniker Smith]

hey, Joe!!
You're a DEMOCRAT!

You CAN vote against Proposition 8!!
Call your local ACORN office for details!

[SunStar]

In this case, the only way to oppose same-sex marriage in California is by constitutional ammendment, since the state supreme court overruled the democratic will of the people (expressed through a ballot initiative).

Yes, I totally understand that. However, and I know I'm in the minority here on this one (even though I am not for gay marriage), I do not like the idea of banning behaviors by a classification of person, in state or federal constitutions. It's definitely a tough issue though, and totally unacceptable for judges to interpret law and overturn the will of the people time and time again.

[Salvation]

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Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE)	Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."

[joydocsusie]

JOE BIDEN is KNOWN AS A NICE GUY. HE IS REALLY A POLITICAL

STOOGE.
BIDEN IS A LIKEABLE FELLOW BUT SO IS A CLOWN.

EXPERIENCE?????????????????

[joydocsusie]

JOE BIDEN is KNOWN AS A NICE GUY. HE IS REALLY A POLITICAL

STOOGE.
BIDEN IS A LIKEABLE FELLOW BUT SO IS A CLOWN.

EXPERIENCE?????????????????