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Father Who Agreed to Abort Down Syndrome Son Seeks Redemption
CNS News ^ | 10/17/08 | Penny Starr

Posted on 10/17/2008 9:39:59 AM PDT by truthandlife

Five years after a doctor aborted his son, who had been pre-natally diagnosed with Down syndrome, a grieving father, who asked to remain anonymous, spoke with CNSNews.com about the decision to end his child’s life and the aftermath of that decision.

The man and his wife, who was in her early forties when she became pregnant, already had a healthy daughter. For that first pregnancy, the couple did not have pre-natal screenings or testing. But after what “Joe” said was his wife having “an intuitive sense that something was wrong” with her second pregnancy, the couple agreed she would be tested.

A blood screen showed there was an increased risk that the child she was carrying had Down syndrome. The results of a subsequent amniocentesis confirmed that the unborn child had the genetic disorder caused by an extra chromosome that typically results in the child having some degree of mental retardation and certain distinct physical characteristics, including upslanting eyes and low muscle tone.

"Joe" agreed to speak with CNSNews.com about his and his wife's decision to have a doctor abort the life of their son and his experience in the wake of that decision.

CNSNews.com: “Did you and your wife agree on having an abortion?”

Joe: “Well, her case was pretty convincing. She felt that something was wrong, in addition with the child other than just Down’s.”

CNSNews.com: “Did you have proof of that?”

Joe: “No, no. Plus, the fact that we were older. We’re sure that our life expectancy isn’t going to be well into our 80s or anything considering our family background, and it would have been basically our daughter looking after him, making sure he was okay.”

CNSNews.com: “You knew it was a boy? Did that make the decision more difficult?”

Joe: “Any child would make it more difficult. You have to understand this. We spent three weeks from the time we found out the diagnosis and we researched both sides of the issue. What support was there for a child with Down’s? What degree of debilitation they may have? Because it is a throw of the dice.”

CNSNews.com: “But you didn’t know if he would be high functioning.”

Joe: “There’s really no way of knowing if he could be very high functioning. There’s no way you could determine that, based on the diagnosis we had.”

CNSNews.com: “Do you have regrets about this decision?”

Joe: “I always do. I mean, hell, I’ll cup a moth and let it outside without killing it. Don’t you think I would have afforded my son better?”

CNSNews.com: “It sounds like you do regret it.”

Joe: “Perhaps. But at the time it seemed like the right thing to do. We went to counseling before we went through with this thing. We were lucky in that we were well set up to get answers. And the counselor said that whatever you decide, either way, this could be very destructive for a couple if they kept the child and if they did not.

“You know what is the sickest part of all? He was about 20 weeks along. We went through the whole child-birth process after the fact. And when he was born, if you wish to call it that, the doctor that delivered him said there were no visible signs of Down’s. Tell me that wasn’t a knife through the heart.”

CNSNews.com: “What if your daughter came to you 20 years from now and said, this is what I found out (that my unborn child has Down syndrome), what should I do?”

Joe: “Like I’d tell anybody. Just make sure you can live with your decision because it’s irrevocable.”

CNSNews.com: Are you living with your decision?

Joe: “Every day. I’ve only told two of my friends about it and you don’t get that Christian backlash that you are vile, you are an agent of murder. Perhaps I do think that. But they said, ‘Oh no, I wouldn’t bring a child like that into the world.’

“You know what the strange thing is, it just made me pause when I thought about it, that less children are being born with Down’s--of course they are not because the parents are not carrying them to term.

“Believe me, if you would have approached me even before we found out, I would have said, ‘No way. No way. A woman has a right to choose.’ But both parties have to live with the decision.”

CNSNews.com: “It doesn’t sound like you were okay with that decision.”

Joe: “I’ve gone through four years of counseling so far. (My wife) has gone to a support group. I think she’s come a long way with it. But I think she’s surprised that I haven’t come as far as she has. Of course, she has regrets. Things are very sad in her life that she can’t say she’s had two children.”

Joe wasn’t asked another question, but he offered one final comment.

Joe: “I think the bottom line is you have to be able to function and live as you did beforehand with the decision you made. In fact, I’m not fully out of it yet and it’s been five years. It’s almost like a Jacob Marley-esque thing that I will drag around with me forever. If I could find some means of redemption I’d like to know how I could go about doing that.”


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Baby at 20 weeks (5 months), the time at which 'Joe's' baby, diagnosed with Down syndrome, was aborted.

1 posted on 10/17/2008 9:40:00 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

This poor man sounds like he is torn up.


2 posted on 10/17/2008 9:44:35 AM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: truthandlife

“....you don’t get that Christian backlash that you are vile...”

Who is judging who?


3 posted on 10/17/2008 9:46:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: truthandlife

It’s not difficult to imagine that snuffing out an innocent life would cause some emotional aftermath to those not already inclined to kill without conscience. Yet, this article seems to paint a picture of someone the demonicrats would readily embrace: a double victim.

Initially the victim of an unwanted pregnancy, once the baby’s condition was known it became unwanted, he fit to a tee the profile of an aborter most favored by the left wing killers. Smart, able, strong, on his way, but stricken with an unwanted pregnancy. Now suddenly he’s not so strong or able; he’s a victim.

After the killing, he remains a victim, in need of therapy, redemption. He must get that from God, or from his version of God. There’s not much other humans can do for him.

I view him not with rancor or compassion. Just indifference. His choice; let him live with it. Or not.


4 posted on 10/17/2008 9:46:43 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: proud American in Canada

He’s torn between the “woman’s right to choose” propaganda and the reality of what’s happened in his own life. He’s living with a terrible emotional burden the pro-abort lobby refuses to acknowledge, and he’s still insisting on preserving a “woman’s right to choose.” That’s what this sick society has done to this poor man.


5 posted on 10/17/2008 9:48:28 AM PDT by djrakowski
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To: proud American in Canada
If I could find some means of redemption I’d like to know how I could go about doing that.”

There is only one way for this man. He needs to accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. Then he needs to confess his sins and ask forgivness. Only then can he be freed from his daily guilt.

Prayers going up for him and his wife.

6 posted on 10/17/2008 9:49:29 AM PDT by ninergold3 (By Election Day I'll Be An Anorexic/Alcoholic. . .Stress Sucks!)
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To: truthandlife

“Things are very sad in her life that she can’t say she’s had two children.”

She had two children. At least they are feeling remorse rather then the mother wearing a T-shirt which proudly displays, “I Had An Abortion.”


7 posted on 10/17/2008 9:51:40 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: truthandlife

I mean, hell, I’ll cup a moth and let it outside without killing it. Don’t you think I would have afforded my son better?”

Then WHY didn’t you?

YOU are a DOCTOR.

YOU have NO EXCUSE.

Tell that to Obama.


8 posted on 10/17/2008 9:52:01 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: truthandlife

I mean, hell, I’ll cup a moth and let it outside without killing it. Don’t you think I would have afforded my son better?”

Then WHY didn’t you?

YOU are a DOCTOR.

YOU have NO EXCUSE.

Pardon me, he is not a doctor but he does have a BRAIN and knows what murder is - he is still without excuse.

Tell that to Obama.


9 posted on 10/17/2008 9:52:46 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: truthandlife

May the Lord comfort him


10 posted on 10/17/2008 9:52:57 AM PDT by downwdims (I'm Steve the Teamster, and I'm voting for Palin)
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To: ninergold3

I have to agree with you on this. Only God can forgive him but he has to ask for this forgiveness.
My prayers are going out too.


11 posted on 10/17/2008 9:53:12 AM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: ninergold3

AMEN!


12 posted on 10/17/2008 9:53:23 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

A friend’s doctor told her that tests revealed that there was something drastically wrong with her baby. She should plan for an abortion.

After that heart wrenching info she decided to go to another doctor who determined that she was carrying perfectly normal twins.

Time to respect life and trust in God to help you no matter the condition of your baby.


13 posted on 10/17/2008 9:55:32 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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To: truthandlife
Joe: “Like I’d tell anybody. Just make sure you can live with your decision because it’s irrevocable.”

CNSNews.com: Are you living with your decision?

Joe: “Every day. I’ve only told two of my friends about it and you don’t get that Christian backlash that you are vile, you are an agent of murder. Perhaps I do think that. But they said, ‘Oh no, I wouldn’t bring a child like that into the world.’


He still doesn't get it.

He's ridden with guilt and still doesn't speak out and tell them the regrets he has - that is if he really does.

If it's not right for him, why would he hesitate to tell anyone that it's not right for them?

Still playing the dopey, self righteous hypocrite.

14 posted on 10/17/2008 9:55:41 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: truthandlife
The Divine Mercy Message and Devotion

The message of The Divine Mercy is simple. It is that God loves us — all of us. And, he wants us to recognize that His mercy is greater than our sins, so that we will call upon Him with trust, receive His mercy, and let it flow through us to others. Thus, all will come to share His joy.

The Divine Mercy message is one we can call to mind simply by remembering ABC:

A - Ask for His Mercy. God wants us to approach Him in prayer constantly, repenting of our sins and asking Him to pour His mercy out upon us and upon the whole world.

B - Be merciful. God wants us to receive His mercy and let it flow through us to others. He wants us to extend love and forgiveness to others just as He does to us.

C - Completely trust in Jesus. God wants us to know that the graces of His mercy are dependent upon our trust. The more we trust in Jesus, the more we will receive.

15 posted on 10/17/2008 9:55:54 AM PDT by notaliberal
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To: truthandlife
“You know what is the sickest part of all? He was about 20 weeks along. We went through the whole child-birth process after the fact. And when he was born, if you wish to call it that, the doctor that delivered him said there were no visible signs of Down’s. Tell me that wasn’t a knife through the heart.”

I guess that says it all!! I wonder how many little souls are misdiagnosed.

16 posted on 10/17/2008 9:56:23 AM PDT by LADY J
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To: djrakowski

Nope, he’s torn by the fact that they killed their baby and it turned out the baby did not have Downs after all.


17 posted on 10/17/2008 9:56:35 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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To: NYer; Salvation

ping!


18 posted on 10/17/2008 9:57:14 AM PDT by djrakowski
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To: PGR88

“....you don’t get that Christian backlash that you are vile...”

Who is judging who?”

Good point.


19 posted on 10/17/2008 9:57:29 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: truthandlife
the doctor that delivered him said there were no visible signs of Down’s.

I had friends whose doctor told them that tests showed their expected baby had no brain and highly urged them to abort.

They chose to put it in God's Hands.

that little 'no brainer' graduated college with honors - and now is marred with her own children - children who never would have beein born - and the there's all the generations to come that will have life because of those parents choice.

20 posted on 10/17/2008 9:58:09 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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