Posted on 10/14/2008 6:58:38 AM PDT by markomalley
Outside of stump speeches, carefully scripted responses to reporters, and the endless recitation of talking points, there are a few moments when a politician speaks from the heart. It is in these moments when true motivations and core beliefs are often revealed.
Such a moment occurred this past weekend, when Barack Obama unveiled his socialist leanings and gave a clue to the American people about what Obama is all about. But, are the American people listening? Have they become so duped by the rhetoric of "hope" and "change" that they don't see the train wreck that's about to happen? Our freedoms are already being taken away as government continues to grow. If Obama gets elected, the subtleties will be thrown out the window as blatant socialism will rule the day. Just read Obama's response to a plumber's question in Ohio...
As reported by Fox News, during a campaign event in Ohio, Obama was peppered with questions from a local plumber who asked, "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" The plumber was complaining (as I often do) that he is "being taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream."
Obama's response? He gave the plumber a classic dose of socialism:
"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
Spread the wealth around? This is America, isn't it? Redistributing the "wealth" is a classic tenant of Marxist philosophy. Communist China, the former Soviet Union, Cuba, and so on.... they all believe in government ownership of basically everything. Hard work, initiative, expertise... none of that is rewarded. Instead, the efforts of the talented and the hard-working are taken from them and given to those who don't work as hard. The result is a decrease in productivity, not to mention the self-fulfillment that comes from being rewarded for a job well done. And this is exactly what Barack Obama wants to do!
John McCain needs to get the message out on EXACTLY how he and Barack Obama are different. Yes, there should be tax cuts, and they should be for all Americans. Everytime Obama speaks about tax cuts, he only talks about cutting taxes for a particular group or segment of society. It is social engineering at its worst. Obama and the "govermennt" will decide how to redistribute the wealth of this country. McCain needs to hammer this!!!
My question to Obama is this... How do you make the economy good "for folks at the bottom up" without injecting more government into the picture or letting capitalism work?
Does Obama really understand the essence of America? It is strong because of the American spirit of invention and the bravery to undertake new endeavors. Those at the economic bottom DO NOT create jobs. Those at the economic bottom get hired for jobs. When the economy is robust, more jobs are created, thus more people get hired. There's not a business existing in America today that doesn't want to "do more business." In order to grow, more workers must be hired, and more capital purchased... both of which benefit the economy. Doesn't Obama understand this???
Let's just do a little simple math to see how taxes really work. Let's say there is a person making $50,000/year and paying 15% in federal income tax. Thus, the person's yearly tax burden is $7,500. If someone making $1,000,000/year paid at the same tax rate, they would pay $150,000 in taxes. So, the person making $50,000 pays $7,500, and the person making a million pays $150,000. Those who make more money, pay more in taxes. It's only logical.
However, that is not how a socialist thinks. Rather than each person truly paying "their fair share," the socialist says that the "rich" person should not only pay more because he or she makes more, but they should also pay a higher percentage. So, the person making $1,000,000/year instead pays 35% in taxes for a tax bill of $350,000. That's an extra $200,000 that the government takes out of circulation to pay for their social engineering.
My contention is this, there is basically nothing that the individual with an extra $200k as his/her disposal could do that is "bad" for the economy. The person could save it, thus giving banks more leverage to do business. The person could invest in, thus helping new or established companies grow. The person could donate some to charity, thus help organizations at the grassroots level do things more efficiently than the federal government could ever hope to. Or, God forbid, the person could simply go out and buy stuff. Two hundred thousand dollars of stuff is a lot of stuff! Imagine all that cash injected into society. Talk about a stimulus package. More goods being purchased, whether it is cars, clothes, furniture, food, or whatever, means that more jobs will be needed to produce those goods. It's as simple as that.
The problem is that Obama uses the politics of "trickle down economics" to pit one socio-economic group against another. It is typical class warfare, and it is un-American. Someone (McCain) needs to meet this head on and use some "straight talk." There is no "trickle down" theory. The more money that is in the hands of those who make the money, and outside the clutches of government, benefits the entire society instantly. There is nothing to trickle down. When all Americans are treated fairly, we all benefit. That is the American way!
Investor's Business Daily describes Obama as "the most anti-capitalist politician ever nominated by a major party." In their editorial, IBD describes the Obama/liberal agenda as follows:
It starts with a tax system right out of Marx: A massive redistribution of income -- from each according to his ability, to each according to his need -- all in the name of "neighborliness," "patriotism," "fairness" and "justice."
It continues with a call for a new world order that turns its back on free trade, has no problem with government controlling the means of production, imposes global taxes to support continents where our interests are negligible, signs on to climate treaties that will sap billions more in U.S. productivity and wealth, and institutes an authoritarian health care system that will strip Americans' freedoms and run up costs.
All the while, it ensures that nothing -- absolutely nothing -- will be done to secure a sufficient, terror-proof supply of our economic lifeblood -- oil -- a resource we'll need much more of in the years ahead.
McCain needs to board the Straight Talk Express and let the American people know what Obama is all about, and how McCain is different. Make no mistake, Sen. McCain, an Obama administration IS scary. You should be scared too. You should also hit Obama hard every single time he engages is socialist rhetoric.
All people are capable of abusing the system, and as we've seen lately, both Republicans and Democrats are capable of greed and corruption. But it is not the American way to punish initiative and ingenuity. It is not "patriotic" to pay more taxes. All Americans should pay less taxes! In tough economic times, the last thing you want to do is hurt business producers. Who is going to create the jobs? The government?
Obama's Red Mentor was a PervertDavis, who was investigated by the FBI and various congressional and official inquiries, was a CPUSA member. In fact, as AIM has documented, Davis was involved in the CPUSA or its front activities, before, during and after World War II, and became a member of a secret communist apparatus in the 1950s after the CPUSA in Hawaii was reorganized on an underground basis.
AIM had confirmed that Obama’s white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, picked Davis because Obama’s black father had abandoned the family and Dunham thought Obama needed a black father-figure. AIM also confirmed that Davis was Obama’s mentor during the critical years 1975-1979.
Harnden claimed in a preceding article that Obama was introduced to Davis in 1970 when he was only nine years old. This would mean that Davis was an influence over Obama for about nine full years, until Obama was 18 and went off to college.
Harnden quotes Dawna Weatherly-Williams, a friend of Davis’s, as saying that Stanley Dunham brought Obama to meet Davis in the autumn of 1970. She “was chatting with him [Davis] that late autumn afternoon as Dunham and Barry [Obama] approached,” Harnden reports.
Harnden also reports that Davis and Dunham smoked marijuana together. Dawna Weatherly-Williams said that “Frank never really did drugs, though he and Stan would smoke pot together,” the paper said. Obama, of course, also admits that he used marijuana and cocaine in his youth.
Citing passages from Obama’s own book, Dreams From My Father, which was published in 1995, Harnden demonstrates how Obama went to “Frank” for advice about racial issues, college, and other matters at critical periods in his life. Clearly, the relationship between them, as concluded by many observers, was strong.
Then what do we regular Americans do? Take it bending over?
Lately, I have been wondering and doing some WPS (worst possible situation) planning.
Anyone else?
definitely been thinking of it myself. learn spanish, buy some property in Costa Rica...
Not only that, but many people will just pull the money out and blow it, leaving nothing for retirement, then ask for another entitlement.
Also “Animal Farm”, “Brave New World” and “Fahrenheit 451”. Followed my “Mad Max”.
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I’m already retired (early) and am not planning to go back to work as long as 0be is POTUS and Oil Nazi (No oil for YOU!) Pelosi and Dingy Harry are in charge. When the going gets tough, the tough go skiing all winter. Screw ‘em. I’m not supporting this trip.
Just like his Mommie.
If we think we’ve seen the stock market crash lately, wait until Obama Marx gets elected. On Nov. 5th people are going to be taking their money off shore like never before. It might be best for this country if the move started early. Maybe it would wake a few people up. I wouldn’t be surprised if Pelosi’s plan on Nov. 5th is to totally nationalize every penny there is to stop the run that she knows is coming. If that’s possible. If not, she’s got lawyers trying to figure out a way to freeze everyone’s assets.
Why shouldn’t we all blow our retirement now? If we wait we’ll have to share it with the ACORN folks.
I made the point in another post yesterday, that those who "want socialism," think it'll be just the same as it is today. Except the government will provide health care, insurance, retirement, education, drugs--anything the good citizen needs or wants. The people do not see it as an affront on freedom, an intrusion on one's privacy, or a disincentive to be productive. They also don't see the utter lack of choice, either from bureaucracy or rationing, socialism will bring.
What will happen is this socialism crap will be tried, will fail, then be completely broke and we’ll go back to the pre-FDR era of America...people taking care of themselves. But this won’t work because there are too many people who can’t take care of themselves. I think Gen. Sherman wrote about this in a letter to his brother.
I think about that as I drive through miles and miles of urbanization in Chicago filled with 'rats.
What are they going to do? What do they do now? The gov't can't tax what isn't there. When GNP/person falls rapidly, what is their plan?
well, I’d stand in line for free KFC!!! Doesn’t mean I’d vote for Obama.
Anyways, George Bush is a disgrace and Obama will just continue what George WANNA BE Bush started...
“Everyone is LISTENING that’s the problem! People have been taught in leftist run schools that socialism is COOL! It’s not as if people are being fooled. Those voting for Obama WANT SOCIALISM!
See, Obama is the guy who will finally make it work because he’s been trained by the right kind of people.”
Yes. I do know of someone who argues that the CEO and the mailroom guy (or gal, I suppose) should be making exactly the same wage because they each contribute to the company.
They want it and they might get it.
“If this is all true, about people wanting Socialism (and I have no doubt that many blockheads do), then we are doomed.”
Rush said recently that a poll or report he was looking at stated 40% are in favor of socialism. I had no idea.
And that means we have to get the other 60% to win this election.
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Point taken.
So, we have been preparing as best we can here. Doing a bit of abstract thinking.
What if anything, are the rest of you doing to prepare for a possible nasty situation coming down the road?
No, Bobby, it's a tenet of Marxist philosophy.
A tenant rents an apartment; a tenet is a principle or doctrine.
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