Posted on 10/14/2008 6:58:38 AM PDT by markomalley
Outside of stump speeches, carefully scripted responses to reporters, and the endless recitation of talking points, there are a few moments when a politician speaks from the heart. It is in these moments when true motivations and core beliefs are often revealed.
Such a moment occurred this past weekend, when Barack Obama unveiled his socialist leanings and gave a clue to the American people about what Obama is all about. But, are the American people listening? Have they become so duped by the rhetoric of "hope" and "change" that they don't see the train wreck that's about to happen? Our freedoms are already being taken away as government continues to grow. If Obama gets elected, the subtleties will be thrown out the window as blatant socialism will rule the day. Just read Obama's response to a plumber's question in Ohio...
As reported by Fox News, during a campaign event in Ohio, Obama was peppered with questions from a local plumber who asked, "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" The plumber was complaining (as I often do) that he is "being taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream."
Obama's response? He gave the plumber a classic dose of socialism:
"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
Spread the wealth around? This is America, isn't it? Redistributing the "wealth" is a classic tenant of Marxist philosophy. Communist China, the former Soviet Union, Cuba, and so on.... they all believe in government ownership of basically everything. Hard work, initiative, expertise... none of that is rewarded. Instead, the efforts of the talented and the hard-working are taken from them and given to those who don't work as hard. The result is a decrease in productivity, not to mention the self-fulfillment that comes from being rewarded for a job well done. And this is exactly what Barack Obama wants to do!
John McCain needs to get the message out on EXACTLY how he and Barack Obama are different. Yes, there should be tax cuts, and they should be for all Americans. Everytime Obama speaks about tax cuts, he only talks about cutting taxes for a particular group or segment of society. It is social engineering at its worst. Obama and the "govermennt" will decide how to redistribute the wealth of this country. McCain needs to hammer this!!!
My question to Obama is this... How do you make the economy good "for folks at the bottom up" without injecting more government into the picture or letting capitalism work?
Does Obama really understand the essence of America? It is strong because of the American spirit of invention and the bravery to undertake new endeavors. Those at the economic bottom DO NOT create jobs. Those at the economic bottom get hired for jobs. When the economy is robust, more jobs are created, thus more people get hired. There's not a business existing in America today that doesn't want to "do more business." In order to grow, more workers must be hired, and more capital purchased... both of which benefit the economy. Doesn't Obama understand this???
Let's just do a little simple math to see how taxes really work. Let's say there is a person making $50,000/year and paying 15% in federal income tax. Thus, the person's yearly tax burden is $7,500. If someone making $1,000,000/year paid at the same tax rate, they would pay $150,000 in taxes. So, the person making $50,000 pays $7,500, and the person making a million pays $150,000. Those who make more money, pay more in taxes. It's only logical.
However, that is not how a socialist thinks. Rather than each person truly paying "their fair share," the socialist says that the "rich" person should not only pay more because he or she makes more, but they should also pay a higher percentage. So, the person making $1,000,000/year instead pays 35% in taxes for a tax bill of $350,000. That's an extra $200,000 that the government takes out of circulation to pay for their social engineering.
My contention is this, there is basically nothing that the individual with an extra $200k as his/her disposal could do that is "bad" for the economy. The person could save it, thus giving banks more leverage to do business. The person could invest in, thus helping new or established companies grow. The person could donate some to charity, thus help organizations at the grassroots level do things more efficiently than the federal government could ever hope to. Or, God forbid, the person could simply go out and buy stuff. Two hundred thousand dollars of stuff is a lot of stuff! Imagine all that cash injected into society. Talk about a stimulus package. More goods being purchased, whether it is cars, clothes, furniture, food, or whatever, means that more jobs will be needed to produce those goods. It's as simple as that.
The problem is that Obama uses the politics of "trickle down economics" to pit one socio-economic group against another. It is typical class warfare, and it is un-American. Someone (McCain) needs to meet this head on and use some "straight talk." There is no "trickle down" theory. The more money that is in the hands of those who make the money, and outside the clutches of government, benefits the entire society instantly. There is nothing to trickle down. When all Americans are treated fairly, we all benefit. That is the American way!
Investor's Business Daily describes Obama as "the most anti-capitalist politician ever nominated by a major party." In their editorial, IBD describes the Obama/liberal agenda as follows:
It starts with a tax system right out of Marx: A massive redistribution of income -- from each according to his ability, to each according to his need -- all in the name of "neighborliness," "patriotism," "fairness" and "justice."
It continues with a call for a new world order that turns its back on free trade, has no problem with government controlling the means of production, imposes global taxes to support continents where our interests are negligible, signs on to climate treaties that will sap billions more in U.S. productivity and wealth, and institutes an authoritarian health care system that will strip Americans' freedoms and run up costs.
All the while, it ensures that nothing -- absolutely nothing -- will be done to secure a sufficient, terror-proof supply of our economic lifeblood -- oil -- a resource we'll need much more of in the years ahead.
McCain needs to board the Straight Talk Express and let the American people know what Obama is all about, and how McCain is different. Make no mistake, Sen. McCain, an Obama administration IS scary. You should be scared too. You should also hit Obama hard every single time he engages is socialist rhetoric.
All people are capable of abusing the system, and as we've seen lately, both Republicans and Democrats are capable of greed and corruption. But it is not the American way to punish initiative and ingenuity. It is not "patriotic" to pay more taxes. All Americans should pay less taxes! In tough economic times, the last thing you want to do is hurt business producers. Who is going to create the jobs? The government?
It is a tough choice....Let’s hope we don’t have to make it.
Not only do they not know, they don't even care ! My sister in law asked me what I thought of Obama- I told her flat out:" he's a communist. Whatever you think of the ideal, every time it's ever been tried, it has always led to mass killings."
Basically she answered, " so what".
My definition of success is doing something that works. Obama apparently defines 'success' as someone giving you money.
The Socialist One doesn’t need to know jack about anything. He’ll appoint people who do that will carry out the socialist transformation. It will be slow like water drops but the pieces will be put in place over his 8 years in office. The republican party will be relegated to nothing, talk radio will be cut off at the knees by the Fairness doctrine. George Orwell will be vindicated even though he was off by 25 years.
Those of us with half a brain are listening!
But is McCain?
The MSM?
Flood McCain out with emails.
Flood the MSM out with emails. Send articles/videos and demand they put these before the voting public.
Please go to http://www.protestthemedia.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7
and pick up all the email addresses to the McCain camp and HUNDREDS of emails of MSM.
Leftists don’t seem to understand that “1984” was intended as a warning, not as a suggestion.
You’re correct. BTW I would expect very little between now and 2010, so as not to give the GOP any ammo for the mid terms. After Jan 2011 we’ll start to see the implementation of this program.
Unfortunately, not enough voters care. Kool-aid drinkers are all-in for Obama. There’s no hope for them. The so-called “undecideds” seem to be accepting enough of his radical views they’re willing to roll the dice and give him the nod. Of course, the thinking voters, i.e., conservatives and moderates with brains, are steadfastly against socialism, but we’re in the minority. The public has heard it all - the associations, the background, the policies of Obama, and it appears they still want to take a chance on him. What a damn shame.
If this is all true, about people wanting Socialism (and I have no doubt that many blockheads do), then we are doomed.
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Will the real Obama please stand up?.......Holy crap folks! Get ready for Jimmy Carter times 10!......
We can’t give up.
We MUST fight this monster getting into the White House
to the very end.
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."
"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years"
"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage"
DUH, he'll probably do away with all those departments!!!
“The public has heard it all”.....
The general public are idiots!....
Al Sharpton will head the F.B.I.
We are doomed. Even so-called conservatives are in favor of government trampling of individual liberty. There are many subjects right here on FR that attest to that fact.
Heck, consider that 48%, or so, of the citizenry carry no weight of the Federal burden. Of course they are willing to vote for increasing that burden on the so called rich.
Atlas will shrug and it won’t be pretty, but we do have it coming.
“DUH, he’ll probably do away with all those departments!!!”
Double Duh, ...not when they are his tools to use against his political enemies. Remember how Clinton used the IRS?
Is Anyone Listening?
(Germany, 1933)
It is true that the rising tide of GDP growth raises all boats, the problem is that the current structure of our workforce has only half the boats IN THE WATER.
Federal, state, and municipal employees are not in the private sector. Social workers and other government bureaucrats, seniors on social security, trial lawyers, teachers and others in education also do not perceive their bread to be buttered by the private sector. Then we have those IN the private sector who PAY NO INCOME TAXES, and who likely see anyone who does as the enemy. These people see the public sector as their benefactor, not the economy. Then there are students who vote, but have not entered the workforce, who listen to commencement speeches exhorting them to "public service", as if the private sector is something to avoid.
Is it any wonder they don't care about the stock market, ignore good economic news, and in general are oblivious to the fact their vote may kill the goose that laid the golden egg? There are many, many public sector employees who will vote conservative, and KNOW where wealth ultimately comes from, but for too many in the above groupings, prosperity through an advancing economy is something that happens to everyone but them, and they will elect Barack Obama on Nov. 5.
Communism kills. The Revolution devours its own children. The Communists with the most power kill anyone they think stands in their way. They kill the innocent. They kill lovers of liberty. They kill their fellow Communists. They kill socialists and other fellow travelers. They kill useful idiots.
When confronted with the fact, it could be that she just didn't know what to say and just issued a flippant reply just to have something coming out of her mouth, completely disregarding the absurdity of her answer. Or it could be because she, like Communists, and in base human nature at its core, will stop at NOTHING to get what she wants, and so the history and the prospect of tens of millions more human corpses doesn't mean much to her.
Who can divine her thoughts and motives? Perhaps she will not care until they come for her.
Cordially,
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