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(TN) Wamp: It Was Never About The Stock Market
Chattanoogan.com ^ | October 9, 2008 | Dana Wilbourn

Posted on 10/09/2008 4:50:13 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

Congressman Zach Wamp told the Chattanooga Rotary Club on Thursday as far as Congress was concerned, the bailout bill was never about the stock market, it was about the credit market.

Rep. Wamp said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson came to Congress with a three-page explanation of the problem and a request for $700 billion, and it was Sec. Paulson who used the terms “Wall Street” and “bailout” in the same sentence.

Congress must protect the interest of the American people and the first bill, the Monday bill that he voted “No” on, did not protect those interests, Rep. Wamp said.

On the Monday vote, Rep. Wamp said, Congress was sending a signal to Wall Street that this situation was totally unacceptable and Congress was demanding accountability. He said he knew there would, most likely, be a second vote and therefore they had time to make this a better product.

Between the Monday vote and the Friday vote, Rep. Wamp said, a mountain of evidence was presented. If this could be likened to a jury trial, he said, the evidence would have been so overwhelming that a settlement would have been proposed and accepted.

“I don’t like (the situation) any more than anyone,” Rep. Wamp said. “I went to the floor (of Congress) and said nobody in my district hates this more than me.”

If the House had not voted it down on Monday, we would not have gotten some of the good reforms that we got in the Friday bill, he said.

A major reform in the Friday bill was an increase in FDIC insured funds from $100,000 to $250,000 for every depositor in America, Rep. Wamp said. The government of Ireland, in the midst of all of this, told their citizens they would stand 100% behind their deposits because they were afraid, as we were afraid, people would panic and pull their money out of the banks, he said.

The second reform that came from voting the measure down the first time was what is called market to market. The problem is, he said, that the financial services sector over the past decade has evolved into a mortgage-backed security sector and there are $11 trillion in funds pinned to those securities. These mortgage-backed securities were going upside down and were not worth what they were sold for, he said.

Rep. Wamp said the Securities and Exchange Commission stepped in, and in an effort to value them so they could be sold market to market, said the lowest common denominator (of a value that keeps going lower and lower), must be used. They could not use the market approach; they could not use the income approach; they could not use any other approach. They had to be valued at the lowest possible level and that value was then frozen.

Employers, employees and consumers then had a complete credit market freeze. That is why this has never been about the stock market, he said, it is about the credit market.

Rep. Wamp said he read one analysis of the crisis that said 1 of 2 steps must happen. “You can let the chips fall where they may,” he said, “or you find a lender of last resort.”

“There is only one lender of last resort and it is called the federal government,” Rep. Wamp said.

“We should listen to Warren Buffet about what to do,” Rep. Wamp said. “He knows more about (the market) than any single member of Congress.” Mr. Buffet said if this were a deal that he would make, he would make money on it. This is a good deal for the taxpayers and it’s a very necessary step at a critical time, Mr. Buffet is quoted as saying, Rep. Wamp said.

The fundamental question became, Rep. Wamp said, “Would Congress stand behind our economy or not?”

“I heard from large insurance companies, I heard from large pension funds, I heard from large foundations, and I heard from Mayor Ron Littlefield,” Rep. Wamp said. All were greatly concerned about the economic situation. All wanted to know if Congress was going to stand behind the economy or not.

Rep. Wamp told of a lady in Cleveland, Tn., with her son at her side and with special needs grandchildren, who told him “thank you” for his “No” vote but added, “Don’t leave Washington D.C. without doing something. Congress has to act.”

Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, 10 years ago, began to extend credit to people who did not qualify, Rep. Wamp said. He said, over five years ago he applied for a loan to build his own house and the lender tried to get him to take a LIBOR loan (an adjustable rate, interest only loan). It would have saved him over $1,000 per month on the loan payment. The lender said, Rep. Wamp could buy a car with the savings. It was a sub-prime loan, Rep. Wamp said, and he did not fall for it. A lot of people did.

There is a lot of blame and there are a lot of lame excuses, Rep. Wamp said. He said he had members of Congress come to him the day he announced he was going to vote “Yes” and say, “Thanks for doing that, so I don’t have to.”

Rep. Wamp said a lot of people are concerned with what they are calling “pork” in the bill that he voted “Yes” on. It is unfortunate, he said, that the Senate added these items, but understand, he said, those were mostly items to correct some existing laws passed years ago that were bad laws. Another bill would have been forthcoming and it would have passed with those same “pork” items. It was a matter of taking 1 vote instead of 2, he said.

An example of that “pork”, he said, was the wooden arrows with a 35 cent excise tax. The law had been passed in 2004 intending to tax metal or alloy arrows used for hunting. Wooden arrows were never intended to be taxed. Wooden arrows probably don’t cost 35 cents to make, he said, and a poorly written law was taxing them 35 cents.

“Politically, it was really dumb to add to this package,” he said, “because it allowed the national media that is cynical and sometimes irresponsible, to say this was a sweet deal or this was pork. No, they (the Senate) just wanted to cast 1 vote instead of 2. They just added it and sent it back over to the House so we could explain it.”

“My view is, vote your heart, your conscience, and then go home and defend it. That’s what I’ve been doing, every chance I get,” he said.

“This latest rescue should remind us all how tenuous our fundamentals are; how delicate our entire system is; and that our way of life is not guaranteed to be extended from one generation to the next. It’s time for all of us to pull together and try to solve these problems and address the long-term sovereignty of our great nation,” Rep. Wamp said, in closing.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; congress; economy; tennessee; zachwamp
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To: NewRomeTacitus
The package had to be done to avert (or delay) a quick slide into actual Depression -

Have you checked the market?

41 posted on 10/09/2008 10:31:57 PM PDT by del4hope (Life is NOT fair. For those who think it should be, they will be sadly disappointed.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
If he feels that he had little choice on this matter I believe it.

How can a market function when nobody knows the rules?

42 posted on 10/09/2008 10:58:12 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Tennessee Nana
I think Wamp is covering his backside for voting yes...

..now he's trying to make the House Republicans **who voted for the people, the ones making the phone calls** look like the villains in this.

I find him disgusting!

43 posted on 10/10/2008 4:46:55 AM PDT by Guenevere (We will NOT collapse.The New World Order WILL collapse.This is our last chance!)
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To: Captain Kirk
After I posted my few puny words....I saw your post.

I should have saved bandwidth....yours says it best!!!

44 posted on 10/10/2008 4:50:40 AM PDT by Guenevere (We will NOT collapse.The New World Order WILL collapse.This is our last chance!)
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To: Fledermaus
I know my representative, Marsha Blackburn, did not.

Believe it or not, my Rep. Lincoln Davis (D) voted no! I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you! (and very, very glad that Wamp does not represent my district anymore).....

45 posted on 10/10/2008 5:44:36 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Captain Kirk
He has the backbone of a chocolate eclair.

I've met Wamp on several occasions, including sitting across the desk from him in his office. He's far, far worse than anyone in the 3rd District imagines. He is a RINO on the fullest sense of the word.....

46 posted on 10/10/2008 5:47:27 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
He may be as pure as the driven snow in his intentions but that doesn't detract from the fact that he chose to take the advice of the thorougly discredited Bernanke and Paulson who, unlike Ron Paul and others, DID NOT see this coming and, in fact, helped to create the conditions that led to it. Wamp showed extremely poor judgement in doing this and deserves to be sent home. The Republicans who did not wimp out, by contrast, deserve the highest praise.

Also, Wamp's current claim that it wasn't Wall Street but the "credit" shortage that led to his vote strikes me as opportunistic revisionism.....now that the markets have tanked.

47 posted on 10/10/2008 10:00:43 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Guenevere

Actually, I stole them from Teddy Roosevelt....but thanks anyway!


48 posted on 10/10/2008 10:19:10 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

Wasn’t ignoring or avoiding you; just returned from another 11 hour work day. Lots of that going around lately. If we who are willing to work are doing so to the maximum amount we can why are we having these problems? Because the oxen can never pull hard enough for the “entitled”, the lazy and the crooked.

Back to point - I haven’t been following Wamp closely during the last two years. He very well may have been afflicted by Potomic Fever and has to shave his emerging horn each morning. But! He was correct that it wasn’t BECAUSE of the stock market.

The stock market is a reactive entity and it’s responding to a financial vacuum in the mortgage markets created (and perpetuated) by Democrats determined to enable deadbeats to own homes at the expense of the nations’ taxpayers.


49 posted on 10/10/2008 6:24:12 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (I've gi'in all I got, Caiptain! The nacelles are a near meltdown and the cofeemakers broken!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
I don't think it was one or the other. Opponents of the bailout, like Wamp, were hammered repeatedly by the media because the market went down after their vote. We were all told it was markets were "reacting" to the no vote. That was a key factor in pushing no votes into the yes category IMHO,

Let's assume you are right and it was entirely due to the credit shortage. If true, that does not reflect well on Wamp. To the extent there were credit problems, there are WORSE after the bailout was approved. This should be no surprise to anyone who knows economics. Inflating the money supply like mad has never solved anything and only creates more malinvestments. Again, it comes back to this. Wamp took the advice of the very men who causes the crisis in the first place including Bernanke, Paulson, and Frank. For God's sake, why? He can't rationalize his way out of that.

50 posted on 10/11/2008 7:31:01 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

No politician can rationalize their way out of an inherited problem: the U.S. has been operating on the illusion of real wealth for a few decades now, operating under the delusion that there’s no limitations on Uncle Sam’s credit. While Reagan pushed this premise for the purpose of breaking the Soviets for good the Democrats have run wild with a Platinum card with no backing.

We got lucky when the Japanese overextended themselves on real estate in the 1980s. Now that we’re deeply in debt to ideological enemies I can’t see a painless solution.


51 posted on 10/11/2008 11:54:09 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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