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Bill Ayers On How To Educate Good Little Progressive Commies
Jawa Report ^ | October 9, 2008 09:33 AM | Howie

Posted on 10/09/2008 10:45:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Via The Corner:

Reader John Rylanders points Cornerites to this very interesting October 2006 interview of Bill Ayers in Revolution (the self-styled "Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA")....

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...That’s one of the things that’s actually annoyed me for about 40 years of being a progressive educator: the separation of the concept of progressive education from the concept of politics and political change. You can’t separate them.

Remember, Ayers is an education activist, who pushes for progressive programs in public elementary schools in Illinios. He praised the communist dictator Hugo Chaves' education programs in Venezuela. He talked about the literacy rate there improving. But Ayers also wants to integrate his political ideology into education.

What ideology is that? Well just look at when he uses the word "we" it gives away who Bill Ayers thinks of as those like him.

we as revolutionaries

we as socialists or as communists or as leftists

So Ayers feels a kinship with revolutionaries, socialists, communists, and leftists.

This is the same man who saw Barrack Obama as fit to head his education initiatives.

(Excerpt) Read more at mypetjawa.mu.nu ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; annenbergproject; ayers; education; elections; nobama08; obama
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1 posted on 10/09/2008 10:45:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

2 posted on 10/09/2008 10:47:40 AM PDT by Toymaker (The Obama People's Party Liberation Express (TOPPLE) HQ: http://www.cafepress.com/Khaotik_Ink)
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To: LucyT; SE Mom; unspun; LibertyRocks; backhoe; PhilDragoo; Grampa Dave; Mike Darancette; ...
Related thread:

The Authoritarian Radicals: Barack Obama, Bill Ayers and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge
Social Science Research network ^ | September 1, 2008 | Stephen F. Diamond Santa Clara University - School of Law

Just filling in some background...on Ayers...and raising the question as to why Ayers would choose someone to manage his cherished Annenberg Project who differed much from his views...!!!!!

3 posted on 10/09/2008 10:51:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Toymaker

I really like that Graphic....says so much!


4 posted on 10/09/2008 10:51:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Bitwhacker

More info for your collection


5 posted on 10/09/2008 10:54:59 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It would be good for the public to know what the projects were that Obama handed out the 50 million dollars to under the supervision of Ayers.


6 posted on 10/09/2008 10:58:14 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To support my comments ...

Bill Ayers: I've been saying for 40 years, you can't separate "the concept of progressive education from the concept of politics and political change"

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He blasts our "authoritarian society," standardized tests, the idea that the schools should be evaluated under market standards with producers being pressured to satisfy consumers, charter schools and school voucher programs.

Ayers, in unabashed solidarity with fellow socialists, communists and leftists, also offers a spirited defense of Ward Churchill:

Ward Churchill is a great example because what I think people, leftists are continually doing with the Ward Churchill case is missing this larger context ... and instead kind of parsing, “Well, what did he say and do I agree with it.” What the hell do I care? First of all, there was a thorough study done by a university committee that never should have been set up, and they found a few, a tiny, a handful of instances where he might have borrowed a phrase, but nothing like Doris Kearns-Goodwin ... did, nothing like, you know, the big academics at Harvard have done, like Dershowitz[.]  And yet somehow he’s held to the standard. And then people on the left again feel like they have to say, well this is part of what Ward says I don’t agree with. What has that got to do with it? He’s being pilloried for his politics, for being a leftist, for being a critic of U.S. imperialism as it relates to Native Americans. How can we as socialists or as communists or as leftists, how can we leave him in the cold and say, well I’m a good leftist because I don’t talk the way Ward talks. I find that appalling. And I would hope that when they come to get Ward, we all link arms and don’t allow it.

Ayers ends by detecting what he takes to be this streak of cowardice in many Democrats and in the letter he received from his colleagues:

It’s not only cowardly, it’s cynical. But it’s suicidal. And by cynical what I mean is that you don’t trust people and so you kind of try to parse out your own little place to have your career as a lefty. And that just makes me sad when it doesn’t make me sick. You have to believe that if you speak the truth, if you speak up and speak the truth as you understand it ... that people can get it. So the cowardliness of not speaking out—we see this in the Democratic Party all the time. Why won’t they speak out against the war? They know better, some of them. But they won’t. And partly because they’re bought into the same system. But even those who know better won’t do it, and the reason is they don’t trust people. And we as revolutionaries have to say that at the end of the day, people will be smart enough, good enough, strong enough to stand up. But why should they do it if we don’t have the courage to do it? And the letter I got was a cowardly letter. Its cynical, it’s cowardly, and it’s slippery.

Again, this is from only two years ago.  Ayers does not try to hide who he is or where he is coming from.  He is a proud leftist revolutionary.  His driving idea, in this phase of his career, is that the classroom is the frontline of the revolution.  And when he was given the opportunity of a lifetime, a $150 million fund to be doled out as seed money for the kind of programs he thought would advance the cause, the guy brought in to run it was Barack Obama — with whom he worked closely on "change" in the schools for five years.

7 posted on 10/09/2008 10:58:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bill Ayers - trust fund baby who did not get his a$$ kicked enough growing up.


8 posted on 10/09/2008 11:01:17 AM PDT by Corporate Law (<>< - Xavier Basketball, Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Too bad he wasn’t in the townhouse with Diana Oughton. He could be the next Secretary of Education.


9 posted on 10/09/2008 11:02:25 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AmericanVictory

I saw mention on a FR Thread regarding a Sex Education program for Kindergarden I believe....also see link at post #3 for access to a document discussing the Annenberg Challenge Project ..


10 posted on 10/09/2008 11:02:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's in our schools that we are losing the cold war, which never really ended. I am a private instructor who teaches children. I won't mention where or what, simply to protect my anonymity, but suffice to say I see kids every day.

Last night I was chatting with a student, a sophmore in a public high school. She's a very sweet kid, with a good heart and a sunny disposition. I really enjoy working with her. That's what infuriates me so much about what is happening in our schools.

I was just making small talk while we worked, asking about school, what classes she likes, what she's learning. She told me about social studies, which is her favorite, because she likes US history. Fine, so what are you studying right now?, I asked. Well, lately all our teacher has been talking about is McCain and Obama, she replied.

What about your art class? I asked. You like that one, right? Yeah, she said, but our art teacher is constantly talking about how she's a vegan.

She likes these teachers. She's a typical idealist bleeding heart kid. She's a smart kid, but still very much a skull full of mush.

I don't discuss politics with the kids, or any business contact, as a matter of policy, and I certainly wouldn't try to use my position to try to influence kids on stuff that is outside my perview. I think it's unethical. Obviously, that's not a concern for the young indoctrinators who are our teachers.

But I was pretty annoyed by what she told me, and so I said to her that those teachers were trying to subvert the minds of children. Why? she asked, probably not knowing what subversion is, poor innocent thing.

I said it's because they are using their position as teacher to try to influence you on subjects that are not their responsibility, and have nothing at all to do with what they are supposed to be teaching. She replied, you should write a book. You say so many interesting things...blah blah. Impressionable minds.

Look, I said, just do me a favor, and try not to be too influenced by people. By anyone. As you get older, you'll learn from experience what life is about, and how things work. Just take everything with a big grain of salt, and be patient and you will learn for yourself.

Sorry for the long story. Just needed to get it off my chest.

It's not an isolated incident. All I told her was to think for herself, and beware. I didn't push my point of view on her, and when asked who I am voting for, I don't tell.

Bottom line is that we are losing the war to the commies, who are polluting the minds of children.

11 posted on 10/09/2008 11:05:44 AM PDT by Huck (America's epitaph: At least we tried. Better luck next time.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s already happening. I’m taking a course now in how to teach social studies. The reason civics is returning is because teachers see a way to use it to indoctrinate students and use traditional terminology to do it. Civics today teaches our children how to become community organizers. Nothing more or less. We’re using a mainstream textbook that talks about all this. And I’m taking courses in a relatively conservative school with a relatively reasonable teacher. It’s chilling.


12 posted on 10/09/2008 11:09:16 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Calpernia; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; ...

Thank you, Ernest_at_the_Beach.

Ping. Hot article.

Check out #3 and #7, too.

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Thanks to WestCoastGal for pinging me to this earlier article with some damning comments, not that it will gain traction in the MSM; check out comments #25, #33, #34, #58.

Guilty! “Obama Sued Citibank to Force it to Make Bad Loans”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2101106/posts


13 posted on 10/09/2008 11:15:48 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

thanks! I wish I could get it on billboards across the country. he’s not even a democrat, never was.


14 posted on 10/09/2008 11:19:48 AM PDT by Toymaker (The Obama People's Party Liberation Express (TOPPLE) HQ: http://www.cafepress.com/Khaotik_Ink)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here’s the Video with Barack’s comments to Planned Parenthood about Sex Education in Kindergarten -
QUOTE: “It’s the right thing to do”
[After Obama’s clip, there is a clip from a Romney speech in which he discusses this exact thing, too.]

OBAMA SHOCKS THE WORLD - Sex Ed in Kindergarten?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pO1dIKgfPw


15 posted on 10/09/2008 11:20:08 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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Chasing links...found this on Obama and another foundation he served on....The Joyce foundation:

Obama linked to gun control efforts

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Kenneth P. Vogel Sat Apr 19, 5:57 PM ET

Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has worked to assure uneasy gun owners that he believes the Constitution protects their rights and that he doesn’t want to take away their guns.

But before he became a national political figure, he sat on the board of a Chicago-based foundation that doled out at least nine grants totaling nearly $2.7 million to groups that advocated the opposite positions.

The foundation funded legal scholarship advancing the theory that the Second Amendment does not protect individual gun owners’ rights, as well as two groups that advocated handgun bans. And it paid to support a book called “Every Handgun Is Aimed at You: The Case for Banning Handguns.”

Obama’s eight years on the board of the Joyce Foundation, which paid him more than $70,000 in directors fees, do not in any way conflict with his campaign-trail support for the rights of gun owners, Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for Obama’s presidential campaign, asserted in a statement issued to Politico this week.

LaBolt stressed that the foundation, which has assets of about $935 million, doesn’t take “detailed policy positions,” but rather uses its grants to “fuel a dialogue about how to address public policy issues like reducing gun violence.”

As with most foundations, Joyce did not record how individual board members voted on grants, but former Joyce officials told Politico that funding was typically approved unanimously.

LaBolt said Obama, an Illinois senator, “does not remember each of the over 1,500 individual grant requests and his assessment of their merits, but he considered all requests in light of the foundation's goal of developing a robust public dialogue around reducing gun violence.”

Obama joined the board in the summer of 1994 as a 32-year-old lawyer who had yet to run for public office, but he already had a reputation in Chicago as an up-and-comer, particularly on issues related to low-income communities — a key foundation focus.

16 posted on 10/09/2008 11:22:25 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: AmericanVictory

See #15.


17 posted on 10/09/2008 11:24:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Huck

The same thing happened in the late 80s when I was in High School. Looking back I know which teachers were liberal and which teachers were conservatives - it’s clear to see now. My favorite English teacher - who I LOVED - was an unabashed liberal. Again, I see it clearly now, but as a teen? Not so much... Socialism is so attractive to teens because they want so badly to live in a good world. It is only when one gets REAL world experience that they begin to truly understand human nature and why socialism could never work, and why it always turns into communism in practice...

I sympathize with you. I have often thought about how I could get through to kids that were so much like me - liberal because we believed the propaganda pushed at us, and honestly just didn’t know any better... I’m still trying to figure it out.

One ironic thing that might make you feel a little better... That favorite teacher of mine? One thing he taught us was critical thinking skills - it’s the one skill that I think helped me to “wake up” and realize what was going on. He made a point to teach us that if we truly disagreed with him, we should stand up and say so — just back it up with proof. We may not have stood up then, but it’s the exact same thing I do now - against people like him. In his effort to indoctrinate us, he inadvertently taught us the exact skill we needed to see through HIS propaganda.

Don’t lose faith, the ones who are truly intelligent will begin to understand as they mature. If that were not the case, I wouldn’t be posting this message to you here at FR. :)


18 posted on 10/09/2008 11:28:06 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: All; LucyT
Thanks to LucyT for pointing to this article:

Inside Obama’s Acorn
May 29, 2008 4:00 AM

***************************Intro EXCERPT*******************

By their fruits ye shall know them.

By Stanley Kurtz

What if Barack Obama’s most important radical connection has been hiding in plain sight all along? Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn), the largest radical group in America. If I told you Obama had close ties with MoveOn.org or Code Pink, you’d know what I was talking about. Acorn is at least as radical as these better-known groups, arguably more so. Yet because Acorn works locally, in carefully selected urban areas, its national profile is lower. Acorn likes it that way. And so, I’d wager, does Barack Obama.


19 posted on 10/09/2008 11:29:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hmmm... the comment on “most organizations” not keeping track of votes. Is that true? I’ve only sat on a political party board, but all of our votes as chairs were ALWAYS recorded in our meeting notes. Every single one...


20 posted on 10/09/2008 11:32:56 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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