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Wall St. tumbles amid crisis
Yahoo News ^ | 10-6-08 | Joe Bel Bruno

Posted on 10/06/2008 9:17:04 AM PDT by mombyprofession

Stocks decline amid global worries credit crisis is spreading; Dow falls below 10,000

NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street tumbled again Monday, joining a sell-off around the world as fears grew that the financial crisis will cascade through economies globally despite bailout efforts by the U.S. and other governments. The Dow Jones industrials skidded nearly 500 points and fell below 10,000 for the first time in four years, while the credit markets remained under strain.

The markets have come to the sobering realization that the Bush administration's $700 billion rescue plan won't work quickly to unfreeze the credit markets, and that many banks are still having difficulty gaining access to cash. That's caused investors to exit stocks and move money into the relative safety of government debt.

Over the weekend, governments across Europe rushed to prop up failing banks. The German government and financial industry agreed on a $68 billion bailout for commercial-property lender Hypo Real Estate Holding AG, while France's BNP Paribas agreed to acquire a 75 percent stake in Fortis's Belgium bank after a government rescue failed.

The governments of Germany, Ireland and Greece also said they would guarantee bank deposits.

(Excerpt) Read more at biz.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: dickfuld; economy; fuld; lehmanbrothers; richardfuld
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Yup, bailout worked. /sarc
1 posted on 10/06/2008 9:17:04 AM PDT by mombyprofession
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To: mombyprofession

There is plenty of credit available. This was a red herring to get the gov’t (me and you) to pay for the large institutions that screwed themselves by using risky assets to leverage their own credit.


2 posted on 10/06/2008 9:23:07 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: mombyprofession

MSM is getting the Recession and Depression they were hoping for. Thanks Nan and company!


3 posted on 10/06/2008 9:23:47 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: pissant

Right, there IS credit available.

It’s just that the Gov’t and Wall Street want to return to the days of EASY credit for the uncreditworthy, with the Fed Gov’t acting as insurer once the loans go bad (again).


4 posted on 10/06/2008 9:25:40 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Hey B. Hussein, are you going to prosecute me now?)
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To: mombyprofession
Its never going to be enough. Of course. No amount of money you can throw at the problem can fix what truly ails the credit markets. Poseur conservatives like Rich and Kristol are just as ignorant about economics as are liberals. Whatever government does is on the order of too little, too late and ineffective in addressing the root of the crisis.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 10/06/2008 9:28:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mombyprofession

It’s all too big for me.


6 posted on 10/06/2008 9:47:02 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: mombyprofession

We have gone from flip that house to flip that bank.


7 posted on 10/06/2008 9:49:26 AM PDT by tongass kid
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To: Ciexyz

What’s a scream to me is to hear liberals talk about the market responding to some incredibly dumb-assed thing the government has done to the economy and say, “Bad market. Bad market.” Can’t we just ship them all to Zimbabwe?


8 posted on 10/06/2008 9:49:58 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Boiling Pots
You got that right... I've got an excellent credit history... and money in the bank to cover a 20% down-payment on a house... I've been house hunting recently and keep getting bombarded by property managers of new sub-divisions leaving messages on voice mail to pull the trigger and buy now.

I LOVE a "buyer's" market.

Bow to me o builders of houses.

9 posted on 10/06/2008 9:50:12 AM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: mombyprofession

10 posted on 10/06/2008 9:50:32 AM PDT by Bobalu (Obama cannot win without the kind of people that Palin appeals to.)
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To: Boiling Pots
It’s just that the Gov’t and Wall Street want to return to the days of EASY credit for the uncreditworthy...

Current stock market values are built on that. If they can't restore at least the illusion of easy credit, world markets are in for a hard fall.

11 posted on 10/06/2008 9:51:10 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: mombyprofession

As much as I DETEST my former congresscritter, Henry Waxman,
he is doing a decent job of presenting Richard Fuld (head of Lehman
Brothers) and his stunning compensation.
For running a venerable company into the ground at terminal velocity.

I’ve NO problem with NO limit on executive compensation.
Except when it’s paid to destroy a firm and put thousands out of job.

Figuring out what’s equitable is above my paygrade.
But like pornography, I can’t define what’s out-of-bounds, but
I know it when I see it!!!


12 posted on 10/06/2008 9:54:28 AM PDT by VOA
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To: mombyprofession

Buy, buy, buy!


13 posted on 10/06/2008 9:54:52 AM PDT by redhead (Alaska--The only state in the Union with dirty Escalades, BMWs, Mercedes, and Jaguars...)
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To: Trajan88

I’m a builder of houses...custom houses. It’s def. a lot harder now than it was before.

Once I see the bottom has been reached, I’m going to buy a lot and build a spec house on it. I don’t see that happening for 2, 3 more yrs.

Thanks God my wife has a nice business that is growing at a nice clip (tech).


14 posted on 10/06/2008 9:55:58 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Hey B. Hussein, are you going to prosecute me now?)
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To: VOA

Most of Fulds wealth was wiped out like all of Lehman’s employees.


15 posted on 10/06/2008 9:56:28 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Most of Fulds wealth was wiped out like all of Lehman’s employees.

Sure, he lost out on stock compensation.

Any public figures about his current real net worth?

I'm NOT being antagonistic.
I'd just like to get a real grip on his current state before
I start weeping for him.
(and any number of the Wall St. luminaries whose goofs I and
my children's children will be paying for.)
16 posted on 10/06/2008 10:02:20 AM PDT by VOA
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To: mombyprofession

No question that this hurts us in the election as the incumbent party. More bad news=bad news for us and bad news for us=potential bad news for the nation come Nov. Most people are sheep and are too lazy to research and see who really caused this.


17 posted on 10/06/2008 10:08:25 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The US economy has been hijacked to pay for globalization. To do this, the country had to be transformed from a producer nation (using the United Nations ‘sustainable development’ to shut down economic sectors using natural resources) to a debtor nation, using foreign ‘investment’ to prop up the economy (UN human settlements program and ‘sustainable development’ begat the Community Reinvestment Act and the ‘restructuring’ of the housing finance market). The debt was leveraged into the stratosphere, leaving the United States virtually bankrupt, and now the taxpaying citizen is a literal slave to the global economy with the Oct 3 ‘bailout’.

Globalization could not occur without the US taxpayer funding it. The Congress and the President have now ensured that we, and our progeny will pay and pay and pay.


18 posted on 10/06/2008 10:11:55 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Globalization could not occur without the US taxpayer funding it. The Congress and the President have now ensured that we, and our progeny will pay and pay and pay.

McLame lost the election with his vote for this fraudulent bail out. Get ready for a world that we & most of our parents never have seen.

19 posted on 10/06/2008 10:15:33 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: hedgetrimmer
The economy was killed by high gas prices

its toast for at least 5 years

You can't give a car away

You can't give a house away.

Go to a mall

Nobody is there.

20 posted on 10/06/2008 10:16:09 AM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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