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Frank talk of Obama and race in Virginia
LA Times ^ | Oct 5, 2008 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 10/05/2008 7:14:35 AM PDT by pennboricua

WHITEWOOD, VA. -- The isolated towns of Virginia's Appalachian coal region are home to strong labor unions and Democratic political machines that date back generations. Yet voters here who eagerly pushed Democrats into the Senate and the governor's office are resisting Barack Obama.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; appalachianvote; appalacia; banglist; bitter; coal; mccain; obama; ruralvote; smalltown; va2008
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Bitter holding on to their guns and religion, and possibly high regards of the good old USA.
1 posted on 10/05/2008 7:14:35 AM PDT by pennboricua
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I live near that area, and there are NO large signs for 0bama as there were for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 04. By looking around one would think that the only democrats running this year are Warner and our congressman Boucher. The only 0bama signs that I’ve seen are the small yard signs, and they are few and far in between.


2 posted on 10/05/2008 7:19:08 AM PDT by KoRn ("Change": Come Help A Nitwit Get Elected)
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To: pennboricua

Okay, so now it seems if you are not going to vote for Obama, you are a poor, racist yokel who just needs to be enlightened. What a load.


3 posted on 10/05/2008 7:22:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: KoRn

I live in western Pa and in this bastion of Democrat rule including the home of our military hating Murtha I concur, not too many Obama signs.


4 posted on 10/05/2008 7:23:37 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: KoRn

I forgot about Boucher, he’s still around? How are he and the boyfriend doing?


5 posted on 10/05/2008 7:23:45 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: KoRn

someone did hire a plane or used his own to pull an Obama banner over Virginia Tech Saturday. He was up there for hours and had to have spend close to a grand in fuel.


6 posted on 10/05/2008 7:25:49 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: pennboricua

Not 1 in 5 dems here are going to vote for Obama, but he’s winning VA by 10. I call BS.


7 posted on 10/05/2008 7:25:50 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: 3AngelaD

Look up the word ignorant then look in the mirror!


8 posted on 10/05/2008 7:27:23 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: pennboricua

LAT: Either you vote for Obama or you’re a racist.

I think this argument is going to backfire somewhat, and not necessarily in Appalachia. It may be difficult for the average lefty to figure out, but many middle class, professional, educated Caucasian suburbanites are sick and tired of hearing about how white racism is holding back the progress of “minorities.”

As anyone with half a brain knows (apparently many libs have less), if members of a racial minority cannot succeed in a professional environment today, it’s due first and foremost to their efforts. Individuals are judged now on their performance, not their race. How does that not extend to the presidency of the United States?

Caucasians have to be careful not to say or do anything that could be considered in the least bit way to offend a member of a “minority” group.

My guess is that there are many whites who pretend to be interested in and/or support Obama simply because of this. In some workplaces and ‘circle of friends’, supporting McCain is seen as a tacit self-revelation of being a racist.

Of course, it all gets back to what you believe when you enter the voting booth.


9 posted on 10/05/2008 7:28:17 AM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Rep. Thaddeus McCotter is my hero.)
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"someone did hire a plane or used his own to pull an Obama banner over Virginia Tech Saturday."

And no one there had a Stinger Missile? Disappointing.

10 posted on 10/05/2008 7:31:13 AM PDT by KoRn ("Change": Come Help A Nitwit Get Elected)
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To: pennboricua

And yet the pollsters tell us the Obamanation is winning in a walk. I’ve the feeling that after the election results come in next month, pollsters and the media are...oh, who the hell am I kidding? They’re not going to learn a damned thing.


11 posted on 10/05/2008 7:35:10 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: KoRn

My thiking is if there is NO sign in a yard, they are McCain/Palin supporters. We only have two Obama signs in our neighborhood. We have to remember that Obama told his followers to “get in you neighbors’ faces” so folks who are for McCain/Palin feel like they would be in line for property damage if they put up a sign for McCain or Palin!


12 posted on 10/05/2008 7:36:02 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: KoRn

Is it really about race?

Or is that a convenient canard for the fact that a lot of people do not like egotistical politicians whose ideas about change are really just a socialist rerun!


13 posted on 10/05/2008 7:37:30 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: seekthetruth
I'm noticing the same thing,i.e. signs are there for the local and state Democrats but no Obama signs.

I have to wonder if most non-blacks aren't just keeping quiet until the voting booth.I have noticed too many racist Obama supporters;but many of them have been told for generations that they are too dumb to make it without preferential hiring quotas, and now they seem determined to prove it by voting for a Marxist .There might be a lot fewer straight ticket ballots this election,I think.

14 posted on 10/05/2008 7:46:13 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: pennboricua

I went to a festival yesterday in Charlottesville, Va(extremely leftist area) and there were few BO signs. We go to this festival every year and in 2000 there were loads of Gore signs and in ‘04 loads of Kerry signs. McCain signs beat BO by 2-1. Good news, I think.


15 posted on 10/05/2008 7:47:50 AM PDT by albie
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To: Harry Wurzbach
Individuals are judged now on their performance, not their race.

Certainly not true in Federal employment. I've heard from friends that it's not true in some private employment.

16 posted on 10/05/2008 7:49:14 AM PDT by Stentor (Obama is Bill Ayers' Renfield.)
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To: SatinDoll

"Is it really about race?

Or is that a convenient canard for the fact that a lot of people do not like egotistical politicians whose ideas about change are really just a socialist rerun!"

I'm sure for a few people it IS about race, but those people are a minority. I think what makes 0bama undesirable for most folks around here is his far left wing liberalism/socialism.

Race, as you said, is just a convenient way to explain away the people's rejection of 0bama's ideals...."It couldn't be his liberalism that people don't like, it has to be his race."

17 posted on 10/05/2008 7:49:51 AM PDT by KoRn ("Change": Come Help A Nitwit Get Elected)
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To: hoosierham

I’m in Illinois and a few days ago there were a whole long line of Dem. signs with Obama among them. A day later all were still there, except Obama.....he went missing. ha!


18 posted on 10/05/2008 7:50:52 AM PDT by GrannyK
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To: hoosierham

I’m in Illinois and a few days ago there were a whole long line of Dem. signs with Obama among them. A day later all were still there, except Obama.....he went missing. ha!


19 posted on 10/05/2008 7:51:34 AM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK

Oops! Sorry about the double entry.


20 posted on 10/05/2008 7:52:11 AM PDT by GrannyK
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