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Frank talk of Obama and race in Virginia
LA Times ^ | Oct 5, 2008 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 10/05/2008 7:14:35 AM PDT by pennboricua

WHITEWOOD, VA. -- The isolated towns of Virginia's Appalachian coal region are home to strong labor unions and Democratic political machines that date back generations. Yet voters here who eagerly pushed Democrats into the Senate and the governor's office are resisting Barack Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; appalachianvote; appalacia; banglist; bitter; coal; mccain; obama; ruralvote; smalltown; va2008
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To: pennboricua

What kind of trash shows up with political signs at a church? These obama supporters are freaks. I’d tell the bitoch to get that garbage out of my face and out of church.


21 posted on 10/05/2008 7:53:25 AM PDT by boycott
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To: pennboricua

This article made me believe that I might be a “poor black child born in Mississippi.”


22 posted on 10/05/2008 7:54:44 AM PDT by boycott
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To: KoRn

The thing about folks in Appalachia is that they will respect a man, even though they might not call him by a polite name for what he does and can do. A competent black electrician, for example, will be hired even if he isn’t the object of politically correct posturing. So a black candidate who only talks and doesn’t do anything well but talk is not going to be the object of a large vote across racial lines. Doug Wilder was elected because he showed an ability to do things other than talk.


23 posted on 10/05/2008 8:03:31 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: GrannyK

Do you suppose the loyal Party workers put out all the signs as ordered but the residents later did some need yard work?


24 posted on 10/05/2008 8:03:40 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: boycott

me too it made me feel like “The Jerk”


25 posted on 10/05/2008 8:07:27 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: MSF BU

Boucher got married a couple of years ago.


26 posted on 10/05/2008 8:18:00 AM PDT by Library Lady
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To: pennboricua
I am bitterly clinging to my guns and religion. And I see this type or article as incredibly destructive.

Whatever the intent, articles like this will make a confirm in the minds of many that a Republican victory is invalid. It's exactly what Gore, The Dims, and the MSM did in 2000.

In the connection it's interesting how the use of "swiftboating" as a pejorative is based on the supposition that the charges of the swiftboaters were shown to be false. As far as I know, that has not been proved, but there are a lot of dims out there who are absolutely sure that we won in 2004 because we lied successfully.

Thinking this kind of thing gives them a way to avoid thinking about the reality of the political complexion of the country, stokes their anger and resentment, and to some degree weakens the ability to govern of whoever wins.

I read that while there was good evidence that the Dim machine in Chicago cheated wildly in 1960, Nixon decided not to contest the election on the grounds that casting such doubts as wuld inevitably arise from doing so would have a bad effect on the nation. So tricky Dick cared more about the US than Al Gore or, now, the Dims in general.

27 posted on 10/05/2008 8:36:57 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: pennboricua

I think you need to reread 3AngelaD’s comment.


28 posted on 10/05/2008 8:47:50 AM PDT by AdvisorB (Baraq is the Arabic name of the winged horse that took mohammed to paradise from the DomeoftheRock)
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To: Mr.Smorch

I reread it and agree we are also all ignorant for not realizing how racist we are for not accepting obama.
we do in fact have to look in the mirror, according to the article.


29 posted on 10/05/2008 8:52:24 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: KoRn

Yep it is the same here in Chester VA. The only place I see Obama signs is closer to Richmond city limits. I’ve seen some lone Warner signs but McCain/Palin signs are popping up everywhere. There are more this year than I saw Bush/Cheney in 2004. I finally got my Mark Warner lied Bumper sticker. Northern VA always worries me but McCain is going to do just fine in the rest of the state.


30 posted on 10/05/2008 9:01:12 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: pennboricua

This thread is just dripping with sarcasm...and alas, I’m the last to figure it out.


31 posted on 10/05/2008 9:04:49 AM PDT by AdvisorB (Baraq is the Arabic name of the winged horse that took mohammed to paradise from the DomeoftheRock)
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To: KoRn
I'm sure for a few people it IS about race, but those people are a minority....

We all like to say things like that, since it makes us sound all educated and progressive in a safe manner, but I think the truth is going to be hard to hide, especially in areas long considered really liberal. The Deep South already went thru it's era of racial turmoil, but I think you'll find more than a few pockets of white resentment at the results of court activism on racial quotas and affirmative action rulings as well as perceptions on reverse affirmative action.

The NORTH is still in a place of racial tension and I'll bet that white backlash comes to the forefront in the privacy of the voting booth. This really isn't so much about color as it is about entitlement backlash. Unfortunately, in the minds of many, that equivocates the issue to a "black thing." I'm not certain that is correct. But I seem to be immersed in the entire issue all day during my work hours since I teach deep in an inner city public high school. So I see this thing from the inside out and that might ummmmm (forgive me) "color" my perspectives a little bit.

32 posted on 10/05/2008 9:07:16 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Maelstorm
I recently drove up through the Tidewater area,crossing the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel and up into Cape May County, NJ., and saw many big blue Warner signs, but nothing for fauxbama.

Interestingly enough, I didn't see any fauxbama bumper stickers on any car bumpers either.

33 posted on 10/05/2008 9:08:36 AM PDT by AdvisorB (Baraq is the Arabic name of the winged horse that took mohammed to paradise from the DomeoftheRock)
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To: ExSoldier

I’m very confident that today there is more racism on the part of black people than with whites by far.

0bama will get 90% of the black vote. That IS racism, and no one says a word about it. The media acts as if this is a natural thing and ignores it.

If McCain were to get 90% of the white vote, what do you think the media would say?


34 posted on 10/05/2008 9:14:34 AM PDT by KoRn ("Change": Come Help A Nitwit Get Elected)
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To: pennboricua
Keep in mind that this effort in Va. is failing in the face of intense one on one campaigning. The “bitter clingers” aint buying the Black marxist with the Muslim name.
35 posted on 10/05/2008 9:50:44 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Library Lady

Jim McGreevy was married too. As a matter of fact:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03172008/news/regionalnews/i_was_mcg_and_wifes_three_way_sex_stud___102326.htm


36 posted on 10/05/2008 9:54:10 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: jmaroneps37

I hope you’re right and I hope that quote about clinging to guns and religion is repeated often on the air in Roanoke, Lynchburg and points south and west. For that matter, run it our of Wheeling WV and everybody in Appalachia will hear it over and over again.


37 posted on 10/05/2008 9:55:50 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: MSF BU

Clinging too tightly to your gun tends to cause your shot to go off target.

Hold it firmly, but with a soft touch on the trigger. 8^)


38 posted on 10/05/2008 9:58:50 AM PDT by airborne (Don't pray that God is on your side. Instead, pray that you are on God's side!)
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To: airborne

“A Christian who believes in Jesus Christ”

Give me a break His pastor never talks about Jesus, he’s to busy spewing hate from the pulpit!


39 posted on 10/05/2008 11:05:43 AM PDT by mikebeam (God Bless America)
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To: hoosierham

You are spot on, as far as I am concerned. I don’t think the property owner wanted to be seen as an Obama supporter. I am guessing a lot of Southern Illinois Democrats do NOT plan to vote for him. (I sure hope I am guessing right.)


40 posted on 10/05/2008 11:30:16 AM PDT by GrannyK
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