Sundown in America

America is facing the most dangerous crisis in the history of our nation. It is not simply an economic crisis. It is a crisis whose outcome may well determine whether America continues to survive as a representative republic ... and whether America remains strong enough to face the massing, determined enemy outside of her borders.

The ‘economic’ portion of this crisis did not occur by accident. It occurred, in large part, as a result of leftist ‘social engineers’ who are intent on circumventing the Constitution to use pretended altruism in order to expand their power and further implement their left-leaning ideological agenda. And they cannot succeed unless the noble foundations upon which our republic was built are completely dismantled.

The current economic crisis, and all of its ramifications, represent a giant step in that insidiously evil crusade.

This economic meltdown is occurring largely as a result of socialist special interests pressuring their friends in congress to relax the underwriting standards for home mortgages. Those friends in congress used all manner of grotesque extortion and shakedown techniques, made legal through changes in law (most notably the Community Reinvestment Act), to pressure the banking/mortgage industry to grant hundreds of thousands of loans to low-income and minority citizens whose economic backgrounds exhibited little or no ability to repay those loans.

When the CRA was created during the Carter administration, the administration also funded with tax dollars numerous ‘community groups’ that have helped the Fed, the Comptroller of the Currency, and other federal regulatory agencies to enforce the act. Under the CRA, if a bank wants to make virtually any change in its business operations — merging, opening up a new branch, getting into a new line of business — it must first prove to regulators that it has made ‘enough’ loans to the government's preferred borrowers. The (partially) tax-funded ‘community groups’ like ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) can file petitions with regulators that stop the bank's activities in their tracks, perhaps defeating them altogether. The banks routinely buy off ACORN and other ‘community groups’ by giving them millions of dollars as well as promising to make even more dubious loans.

Yes, there were other contributors to this meltdown, but years of such pressure and pandering to special interests were the major contributing factor in the crisis we are facing today (and tomorrow ... and beyond).

One of those special interest groups that participated broadly in this dramatic change in banking/mortgage procedures was indeed ACORN (the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), one of the largest radical left-wing groups in America.

Barack Obama’s affiliation with ACORN is longstanding and deep. He ran an ACORN-sponsored massive voter registration effort (which was later accused, and continues to be accused, of engaging in massive voter fraud). He later became a trainer for the group, as well as its lawyer in numerous election law cases. He received strong financial support from ACORN in all of his election campaigns, and his affiliation with the group and its radical activities remains strong today.

Many involved in the current congressional negotiations on the economic bailout proposal are attempting to make the public aware that the proposal being pushed by the democrats would have a large portion of the taxpayer-funded ‘bailout’ money diverted to whom?

Is the public becoming aware of this fact? No. Why? Because those in congress who are attempting to sound the alert are being righteously ignored by the mainstream media.

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) stated today, … this deal that’s on the table now is not a very good deal. Twenty percent of the money that should go to retire debt that will be created to solve this problem winds up in a housing organization called ACORN that is an absolute ill-run enterprise, and I can’t believe we would take money away from debt retirement to put it in a housing program that doesn’t work.

Our current economic crisis threatens America’s existence on five major fronts:

(1) It threatens to plunder from the American taxpayers for generations to come, reducing their standard of living, threatening their hard-earned retirement security, and placing debt upon the shoulders of their children not yet born. And why? In order to correct the ‘errors’ made by our leadership, and brought about by the pressures of special interest groups.

(2) It is already succeeding in nationalizing major sectors of American private enterprise, in the banking and insurance industries ... with more to come.

(3) No matter the bailout plan that is adopted, more government regulation over the private sector will be enacted, dramatically increasing bureaucratic government interference in the free market system – i.e., placing yet another socialist anchor around the neck of our capitalist system.

(4) No matter the bailout plan that is adopted, our national debt will increase beyond our ability to pay it down, to the point where our national priorities will, of necessity, be transformed from one in which our safety, security and sovereignty take a perilous second place to our need to merely pay down the money that we borrowed to get ourselves out of this economic meltdown.

(5) Unless those who played an activist role in fomenting this crisis are sought out, investigated, and prosecuted where called for, and unless the citizenry demands an accounting and a broad excising of the corruption in their leadership, once the dust settles -- and it will settle, temporarily, after any bailout program takes effect -- nothing will change. No reform will occur. And our future will be filled with more of the same -- adding to our debt, taking away from our liberties, and putting our survival in jeopardy.

Now reflect back on the fact that the current leader in the race for the presidency has had, and continues to have, close activist ties with a radical organization that played a major role in the above cataclysm.

Why is ninety-nine percent of the American electorate unaware of that connection?

President Bush delivered an address to the nation two nights ago. The subject of that address was the current economic crisis.

In his attempt to explain the causes of this crisis, he insinuated that it all started because America’s economy was considered so healthy that it attracted investors from all over the world. As a result, banks and financial institutions were awash in money, and that state of affairs planted the seed for this debacle.

Our President offered up the greatest whitewash of the reasons for this catastrophe imaginable.

John McCain and Barack Obama participated in the first of four televised presidential debates tonight. Because of recent developments, despite the fact that foreign policy was scheduled to be the topic of the debate, much of their debate centered on our economic ills.

Barack Obama pointed the finger of blame for those ills at 'eight years of Bush economic policies -- policies that were embraced by John McCain.'

Did John McCain refute that argument by finally educating the American public regarding his opponent’s personal affiliation with a radical leftwing organization that played a significant role in creating the sub prime debacle? No, he simply spoke in platitudes about how we must all work together, in a bipartisan way, in order to solve this monumental problem.

I am aware (as are many of you) of the major causes of this crisis. And if I am aware of the part that Obama and those of his political ideology played in this catastrophe, surely my President and my candidate are as well.

What is keeping them from making that association a major issue in this election?

At the bottom of this travesty (the magnitude of which I don’t believe we have seen in either our or our parents’ lifetimes) are four crucial, potentially deadly, considerations:

(1) The virtually unbridled power of the mainstream media – who routinely turn our focus (because we allow them to) toward superficial nonsense, and away from information that would be extraordinarily dangerous to those whose ideology they share.

(2) The fact that, even during their deliberations in attempting to solve this economic crisis, most of the democrats in Washington still do not consider the safety and prosperity of the people of this country to be their main focus. Their main focus, even in these troubling times, is the amassing of power and the implementation of a leftist ideological agenda. Why else, when the economic (and possibly physical) safety and security of every American is hanging in the balance, would they still be attempting to divert a large portion of this gargantuan, taxpayer-funded bailout into the pockets of a left-leaning organization bent on social engineering (and an organization that played an activist role in the catastrophe to begin with)?

(3) If republicans in congress resort to compromise, as they have so often done over the past eighteen years, they will have committed the final betrayal. They will have saddled the American taxpayer with an unbearable burden – in the form of financial extortion, the crumbling of our capitalist system through the nationalization of private enterprise, and the granting of oversight powers to the government that were never envisioned by our Founders – all of which conditions are expressly forbidden by our Constitution. Individual liberty will be the major casualty – with security and sovereignty to follow, a distant, but definite, second.

(4) Congress, bowing to the enormous pressure of powerful, radical left-wing special interest groups, started this crisis by pressuring, in an entirely unconstitutional manner, the banking/mortgage industry to do what their special interest lobbyists wanted. Yet among the major end results of any temporary bailout will be the granting of significantly more 'oversight' powers, this time made legal by 'post-meltdown' legislation. The government will be granted enormous additional power to look over the shoulder of private industry and dictate the parameters under which it can function. Talk about rewarding crime, and positioning the country for more of the same ... now legalized ... much deeper, and much more threatening to our capitalist foundations.

I have little faith that the electorate will recognize the genuine nature of the man they are about to elect to the presidency. The media will not allow it. And the citizenry is too lazy to look beyond the mainstream media for answers.

I have little faith that our ‘leadership’ in Washington will once again begin to represent the best interests of the people. The corruption is too deep, and the power of special interests is too unwieldy and unaccountable, and growing moreso every day.

There are enemies at the gate. Enemies of the sort that the world has never known – who see it as their destiny to conform us to their image, or see us dead. When they decide to break down that gate in a brutal manner that goes far beyond the taking of three thousand innocent lives in two skyscrapers, an office building, and a commercial airplane, they will find little resistance. Not because the people within the gates weren’t once rugged individualists who valued freedom ... but because they no longer are.

I pray, fervently and daily, that I am wrong, or that He will somehow intervene.

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NinoFan—did you get this one?

A VERY GOOD ARTICLE ABOUT THE PREDICTIVE WEBOTS SOFTWARE IS DOWN THIS POST A PAGE OR 3.

SPIES WARNING ABOUT AL QAEDA PLANNING AN OCT SURPRISE is quite a bit down this post

Then a NEW SCIENTIST ARTICLE about MIND READING TECHNOLOGY FOR BORDER CHECKPOINTS is below that.

Following are misc. gleanings from ATS . . . some more directly related to this thread than others. All curious for one reason or another . . .

From:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread395066/pg1

From deep back channels I have confirmed that planned assassinations of any U.S. Citizens who are on the “red list” will commence on 10/1/2008. That does not mean that mass numbers of bodies will be appearing that week. It does mean that systematic elimination of those on that “red list”.....Ie. Those who could lead resistance, opinion makers or those in the media..... Main stream or alternative, certain known militia leaders and members, patriotic ex military who could train and lead citizens in resistance to tyrants and their martial law privations , and current U.S. Military that would side with their fellow citizens against tyranny.... will take place. I heard this would be handled by assigned assets in the U.S. Military, private contractors, intel assets, corporate security trouble shooters, and foreign troops currently billeted in training facilities on U.S. Military bases, or in clandestine bases in rural areas, closed military bases, or even deep underground bases and recently purchased mining properties.
www.uaff.us...

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The opening post at this link is a real dooozy. Toooooo plausible for comfort given a lot of othergivens.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60572/pg1

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread392468/pg1

Web Bot’s Prediction for October 7th, 2008 - For the record

On the September 10th episode of the Jeff Rense show, 3rd hour guest Cliff High made a few predictions for October 7th, 2008 based on the Web Bots’ information.

A good summary of the Web Bot’s interpretation can be found here:
exopolitics.blogs.com...

In the case of the Web Bots, the impeding Event Alert period is from Oct 7, 2008 through Feb. 19, 2009, with a warning period during Sept 22-27, 2008. Each of these think tanks follows a different, though procedurally analogous methodology in arriving at these Alerts. Both Think Tanks are forecasting an event period of high emotion, comparable to a “9/11 Event” lasting 60 days to four months instead of ten days.

The Web Bots foresee consumer society collapsing by mid November 2008. The Web Bots foresee a West Coast/Vancouver area large scale earthquake around December 12, 2008.

-————— another poster in that thread:

I have been following web-bots predictions for about 9 months now. I started to follow it as something humorous, But surprisingly it has had a decent track record, I remember back in may, they showed a report a few days before the china earth quake, and it involving a wedding(Jenna bushes). . . Though the locations were different from what the web-bot had foretold, It still happened. So once again i await to see the outcome of this specific run.

A post by Anonymous ATS poster on that thread:

posted on 21/9/2008 @ 10:03 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

The interesting thing about this is

One month ago, one of my customers and I were talking politics and economy. She informed me that she had been told by a friend in a shipping company to be prepared for sometime around the end of sept or early oct. They friend wouldn’t or couldnt elaborate.

I asked my friend if this was just smoke and she said the lady was not the type to do “off the wall things of this nature”. She is “country folk” and not one for mass hysteria and BS.

This got my attention when I saw the date and googled. I had forgotten about my conversation until I had a synopsis of the prediction.

Hmmm. With recent events, looks like another PLANNED event looming!
Martial law preceeding election?

Maybe some of you have heard of The Web Bot Project, but for those of you who have not, it’s quite intriguing.

The Web Bot Project, developed in the late 1990’s, was created to assist in making stock market predictions.

The technology uses a system of spiders to crawl the Internet and search for keywords, much like a search engine does. When a keyword is located, the bot program takes a snapshot of the text preceding and following the keyword. This snapshot of text is sent to a central location where it is then filtered to define meaning.

The projects concept is aimed at tapping into the “collective unconscious” of the universe and it’s inhabitants. As well, there is an interesting time concept involved and an unusual concept of a “tipping point” regarding the past, current, and future times. It goes a bit deeper than viewing what those of us on the Internet are saying.

But in 2001, bot operators began to notice that stock market predictions were not the only matters being accurately predicted by the program. They began to take notice of coincidence with occurrences and explored it further.

One of the first accurate predictions from the bot program took place in June of 2001. The program predicted that a life altering event would take place within the next 60-90 days. An occurrence of such proportion that it’s effects would be felt worldwide. The program based it’s prediction on “web chatter” which ultimately represents the collective unconscious of society.

Regrettably, the bot program’s prediction proved accurate and the Twin Towers fell on 9/11/2001.

Here’s where it starts to become very interesting. The bot program also predicts a worldwide calamity taking place in the year 2012. For those of you who study astrology, prophecies, and the like, you may already be familiar with this date.

from:

There’s a doc from the History Channel on the WEBOTS HERE:

http://aphroditeastrology.com/2007/05/web-bot-project-and-2012.html

Further on page 2 of that thread:

...here’s some excerpts from last night’s C2C interview:

The next year will get very ugly and will change your life worse than 9/11. It is important to understand the magnitude of the data. The sort of agony, grief, pain and rage that was felt the six days following 9/11 will be felt for five and a half months. From October 7th, 2008 until March of next year.

2009 will be a “year of transformation.” The keyword “monumental” shows up as how the future will view our current situation. Time Monks describe this as an “epic situation.”

...in the model space that goes through the idea of “disappearances” beginning next year... a lot of alien activity way off in the future.

There is a device out and about in the world being chased down by the “powers that be.” Two whistle-blowers have a device in their hands and are on the run. By just having the device they have created certain side effects that the “powers that be” couldn’t have predicted. The Time Monks do not have a word for these devices. Relate it to a cave man trying to describe a modern gun.

‘C2C Web-Bot 9/22/08 Interview Update’

Some YouTube clips about the webots follow the above in the thread not far below.

Wow! That was quite a show! Now there is no doubt, I’m official having a wiggin’s! Just checked the website, and they posted an update for the info on last nights show. They are forcasting a total collapse of the US economy on the 7th with a military component on the 15th. Martial Law due to unrest perhaps? And way to many ties to alot of other ‘conspiracy’ theories! What’s the old Irish curse? “May you live in interesting times!” I think this qualifies

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Star and flag to the op
Great interview loved every min of it

Another poster on page 3 of the thread:

My Aunt is very spiritual and my girlfriend spoke to her on the phone a few weeks back and at the end of the conversation she said that we the human race will have to work extremely hard together to survive the next few years. Every thing she has ever told me has come to pass

So imo i think the events will come

Yeah, but self-fulfilling prophecy does not explain the natural disaster predictions, or the Columbia disaster prediction, even though they didn’t realize that one until after the fact, because they dismissed ‘Maritime disaster over western states’ because of the language, but Columbia was a ‘ship’, and the timeframe was correct, so.

Einstein said that the distinction between past, present and future is just an illusion.

So our collectivive unconscious experiences these things before our material bodies because our collective unconscious is not bound by space-time.

The Bible tells us that these things will happen. The Bible tells us about future technology like people around the world watching bodies before the internet and TV. It describes helicopters as locusts with breastplates of iron with noisy wings.

The ancients were describing future technology in the language of the day. They were being showed these things by the collective unconscious and higher dimensional beings who are not bound by our space-time and they can see what choices we will make because they can traverse our worldline.

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CSPAN YOUTUBE

ABOUT SPEAKER DECLARING MARTIAL LAW LAST NIGHT

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=l7B4laX1E70

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ATS THREAD ABOUT HOW TO PREPARE FOR A DEPRESSION:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread394101/pg1

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NWO TYPE ALLEGATIONS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60572/pg1

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SPIES WARN THAT AL QAEDA PLANS FOR AN OCT SURPRISE

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread393762/pg1

Spies Warn That Al Qaeda Aims for October Surprise: Intercepted Messages Asking Local Cells To Be Prepared for Imminent Instructions

In the aftermath of two major terrorist attacks on Western targets, America’s counterterrorism community is warning that Al Qaeda may launch more overseas operations to influence the presidential elections in November.

Call it Osama bin Laden’s “October surprise.” In late August, during the weekend between the Democratic and Republican conventions, America’s military and intelligence agencies intercepted a series of messages from Al Qaeda’s leadership to intermediate members of the organization asking local cells to be prepared for imminent instructions.

An official familiar with the new intelligence said the message was picked up in multiple settings, from couriers to encrypted electronic communications to other means. “These are generic orders,” the source said — a distinction from the more specific intelligence about the location, time, and method of an attack. “It was, ‘Be on notice. We may call upon you soon.’ It was sent out on many channels.”

More...

Given the turbulence of the last few weeks, this almost sounds as mundane as a weather report...

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread394517/pg1

Last year, New Scientist revealed that the US Department of Homeland Security is developing a system designed to detect “hostile thoughts” in people walking through border posts, airports and public places. The DHS says recent tests prove it works.

Project Hostile Intent as it was called aimed to help security staff choose who to pull over for a gently probing interview - or more. Commentators slated the idea that sensors could spot people up to no good from their pulse rate, breathing, skin temperature, or fleeting facial expressions. One likened it to the “pre-crime” units that predict criminal behaviour in the movie Minority Report. However, last week, the DHS science unit gave an update on the project, now dubbed the less-hostile-sounding Future Attribute Screening Technologies (FAST) programme. And, if DHS claims are to be believed, the research appears to be getting somewhere. At an equestrian centre in Maryland, 140 paid volunteers walked through a pair of trailers kitted out with a battery of FAST sensors, including cameras, infrared heat sensors and an eyesafe laser radar, called a Bio-Lidar, that measures pulse and breathing rate from a distance.

Some subjects were told to act shifty, be evasive, deceptive and hostile. And many were detected. “We’re still very early on in this research, but it is looking very promising,” says DHS science spokesman John Verrico. “We are running at about 78% accuracy on mal-intent detection, and 80% on deception.” That sounds incredibly high at such an early stage in the research - but only tests on vast quantities of real people, rather than eager volunteers, will present any real test. Questions remain, however, as to how secure the system is. The machines could reveal health conditions like heart murmurs and breathing problems as well as stress levels - which would be an invasion of privacy. But Verrico says FAST has been through stringent privacy controls (pdf) and that the data is never matched to a name. It is only used to make decisions about whether to question someone, and then discarded.

The trial technology was installed in a trailer because it is planned to be easily transportable, so that FAST trucks can appear at any sports or music event as required. They look set to become as regular a sight at such events as mobile toilets and catering trucks. But is going to make a real difference? Or will bad guys learn to play the system and render it another piece of what expert Bruce Schneier dubs “security theatre”. Given that the FAST approach is not much different to the long established - and long established as unreliable - polygraph, that certainly seems plausible.

www.newscientist.com...

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DATS ALL FOLKS.

Walk with God. Reverentially be in Awe/fear only His displeasure.

Blessings,

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