Surrender the card, Larry. Now.
Posted on 09/25/2008 5:21:56 PM PDT by SJackson
'There was a story in The Jerusalem Post recently about how Sarah Palin was driving a lot of the old Jews in Florida back into the hands of the Democrats. They still didn't particularly like Barack Obama, but they disliked Palin more, explained Steve Geller, a Jewish Democratic politician down there.
It wasn't just the evangelical thing, he said. "Most of our South Florida condo people are appalled at seeing her standing over a moose."
Finally. Thank God. I'd like to shake the hands of those South Florida condo people for saying what American Jews have been afraid to say ever since the rise of the Right: We don't like hunting. We don't admire hunters. In fact, we think they're a little strange, maybe even a little bit sick - and with some of them, more than a little bit.
What sort of person kills animals for sport? For fun? You see this picture of Sarah Palin kneeling in the snow over this moose she's just shot, and the moose is lying there bleeding from the mouth - and everybody's supposed to applaud. This is women's equality - women can kill moose, too.
By the way, this is not just a Republican thing; Hillary Clinton told the story over and over about how she learned to hunt from her father. In 2004, John Kerry made sure everyone knew he may be a Democrat with a Boston accent, but he was a hunter, damnit.
Obviously, they were going after the redneck vote, showing they weren't prissy urban liberals, they were real, red-blooded Americans. That's what you have to do to get elected president ever since 1980, when Reagan took over, and country became cool.
AND I have to laugh at these Jewish Republicans who are kvelling over Palin and what a regular, down-to-earth gal she is. I'd like to see some of these verbose Jewish neocons tromping around Alaska with a hunting rifle going after caribou, whatever the hell that is.
Why don't they admit that they're put off by Palin's exploits in the snow, and by hunting in principle, just like those Florida condo people are. This is not a Jewish thing, and, as a Jew, I'm happy to say it's not. I know there are a few Jewish hunters out there, and I want to say I feel sorry for you, you and all your gentile friends, that this is how you find joy in life - by killing deer, and moose, and rabbits, and ducks, and birds and whatever other animals you enjoy shooting.
By the way, I don't mean to tar all gentiles as barbarians - I know that millions and millions of gentiles are also sickened by hunting, maybe most of them are. But let's face it, even if most gentiles aren't hunters, virtually all hunters are gentiles.
After all, how many Jews are members of the National Rifle Association? (No, you cannot count Charlton Heston, z"l.)
And I'm not one of those people who want to outlaw hunting. I don't think it's "murder," I don't think animals have the same rights as people. Actually, I'm no great animal lover at all. Actually, if you want to know the truth, I identify with the humorist Fran Lebowitz, who, when asked to name her favorite animal, replied: "Steak."
And I don't hate guns, either; I got a big kick out of target practice in the army. I'm also not a stickler for gun control; I understand that in some places and some situations, a gun is a good thing to have, and I'm not convinced that rounding up guns in America would bring the crime rate down to European levels.
It's just that I don't like the idea of killing animals for pleasure, and I don't think being a hunter is anything to be proud of. I wouldn't do it, and frankly, I don't think I could be friends with somebody who did it, or at least somebody who did it passionately, and it seems to me that all hunters are passionate about hunting. It doesn't strike me as a hobby you can pursue half-heartedly.
The South Florida condo people have a term for it: goyishe naches. Gentiles' idea of happiness. Not all gentiles, of course, but too many of them, including Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and, of course, Dick Cheney. (Just think - if the yidden in Florida had known all along that Cheney was such a remarkably eager hunter, Al Gore probably would have won in 2000.)
So let's all of us Jews, or virtually all of us, along with the vast, civilized majority of gentiles, stand up and say: Feh on hunting! You think that makes you a man, or a strong woman? It makes you a nut! You should be ashamed of yourselves! Unless you're starving, leave the poor animals alone!
And now that we've told the rednecks and the politicians who pander to them what we think of that great American pastime, shall we talk about stock car racing?
Where do ya think "meat" comes from, Larry?
Tofu rot your brain?
Just throwing an idea out there, but would you trade a Jew hunted food for kosher food? Let's say I brought you 150# of mule deer meat. Could I get some kosher meat for that?
(Just bear with me here. I'm working on an idea.)
That’s a good idea forming, IMO. Remember that as a Gentile, I’m not really qualified to answer questions about Judaism.
And yes. I would be willing, if I were to produce meat and doing so were permitted, inspected and authorized (Orthodox).
I don’t know as to whether my state would allow such trading of wild game meat, though. Selling it is illegal, and donations require donation certificates and so forth.
Trading non-kosher meat from domestic animals for kosher meat might be legal. ...need to ask an Orthodox Rabbi about Halacha on that.
“Deriving pleasure from the hunting/killing/harm of a fellow sentient creature is probably moral depravity.”
The only sentient creature on Planet Earth is homo sapiens.
“I never had enough pelts to make a decent coat.”
Rabbit doesn’t make a very good coat, the skin is too thin. It does make a wonderful glove or mitten though, with the fur turned to the inside.
Wonder how those condo-dwellers would react to the number of insects that are kosher?
:p
I think you may be talking about different types of farms. There are factory farms that are not as clean or humane as the majority of smaller farms. I once toured a farm in which the owner (I will not call him a farmer) stood there bragging about the sheer number of cattle he’d been able to pack into one building, while I was watching a dairy cow trip and break her leg on the poorly-designed floor. He didn’t care, not even when I pointed it out to him.
I know most real farmers are not like that one, I’m working on becoming a farmer myself. But, they are out there. And unfortunately, those are the stories that get told.
Are any insect kosher? I wasn't aware of that... I've always assumed that since shellfish and crustaceans are not kosher, neither are insects nor bugs.
Mark
That would be fine here in Pocatello. I'm somewhat annoyed that we have few rabbits in the local area. Many years ago the rabbit population was infected with a nasty virus that attacked the rabbit's eyes. It decimated the population (on purpose). They are starting to come back. We haven't had our first hard frost, thus it is too early to be hunting rabbits. It's customary to wait until you have one or two hard frosts to kill off the sick rabbits before hunting any for food.
Surrender the card, Larry. Now.
So we’re just supposed to kill for fun? We’re not actually supposed to eat all the fish and shrimp and dove and deer that’s in my freezer? Oh, don’t I feel stupid! I thought... Nevermind.
Besides, food comes from the backroom at the grocery store, dontcha know! Shrinkwrapped and everything.
Do I need a s/ tag?
OTOH, maybe I shouldn’t make fun of the poor schmuck, and no, I’m not Jewish, I jsut know what the word means. I wouldn’t survive very long in a condo. LOL
So we’re just supposed to kill for fun? We’re not actually supposed to eat all the fish and shrimp and dove and deer that’s in my freezer? Oh, don’t I feel stupid! I thought... Nevermind.
Besides, food comes from the backroom at the grocery store, dontcha know! Shrinkwrapped and everything.
Do I need a s/ tag?
OTOH, maybe I shouldn’t make fun of the poor schmuck, and no, I’m not Jewish, I jsut know what the word means. I wouldn’t survive very long in a condo. LOL
So we’re just supposed to kill for fun? We’re not actually supposed to eat all the fish and shrimp and dove and deer that’s in my freezer? Oh, don’t I feel stupid! I thought... Nevermind.
Besides, food comes from the backroom at the grocery store, dontcha know! Shrinkwrapped and everything.
Do I need a s/ tag?
OTOH, maybe I shouldn’t make fun of the poor schmuck, and no, I’m not Jewish, I jsut know what the word means. I wouldn’t survive very long in a condo. LOL
So we’re just supposed to kill for fun? We’re not actually supposed to eat all the fish and shrimp and dove and deer that’s in my freezer? Oh, don’t I feel stupid! I thought... Nevermind.
Besides, food comes from the backroom at the grocery store, dontcha know! Shrinkwrapped and everything.
Do I need a s/ tag?
OTOH, maybe I shouldn’t make fun of the poor schmuck, and no, I’m not Jewish, I jsut know what the word means. I wouldn’t survive very long in a condo. LOL
I read this article and still didn’t figure out why the guy has his g-string in a knot. What a pansy! The big thing that stands out in his article is how many times he used the word “I”. He’s a self absorbed metrosexual that feels threatened by Sarah Palin.
So we’re just supposed to kill for fun? We’re not actually supposed to eat all the fish and shrimp and dove and deer that’s in my freezer? Oh, don’t I feel stupid! I thought... Nevermind.
Besides, food comes from the backroom at the grocery store, dontcha know! Shrinkwrapped and everything.
Do I need a s/ tag?
OTOH, maybe I shouldn’t make fun of the poor schmuck, and no, I’m not Jewish, I jsut know what the word means. I wouldn’t survive very long in a condo. LOL
So we’re just supposed to kill for fun? We’re not actually supposed to eat all the fish and shrimp and dove and deer that’s in my freezer? Oh, don’t I feel stupid! I thought... Nevermind.
Besides, food comes from the backroom at the grocery store, dontcha know! Shrinkwrapped and everything.
Do I need a s/ tag?
OTOH, maybe I shouldn’t make fun of the poor schmuck, and no, I’m not Jewish, I jsut know what the word means. I wouldn’t survive very long in a condo. LOL
My deepest apologies! ROTFLMAO
Every time I hit post, I got a server proxy error.
My comment was not so important nor insightful that it needed to be repeated however many times I repeated it! LOL
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