Personally I eat the critters, and I'm sorry Larry got sick somewhere along the line, but he should consider trying meat again.
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Posted on 09/25/2008 5:21:56 PM PDT by SJackson
'There was a story in The Jerusalem Post recently about how Sarah Palin was driving a lot of the old Jews in Florida back into the hands of the Democrats. They still didn't particularly like Barack Obama, but they disliked Palin more, explained Steve Geller, a Jewish Democratic politician down there.
It wasn't just the evangelical thing, he said. "Most of our South Florida condo people are appalled at seeing her standing over a moose."
Finally. Thank God. I'd like to shake the hands of those South Florida condo people for saying what American Jews have been afraid to say ever since the rise of the Right: We don't like hunting. We don't admire hunters. In fact, we think they're a little strange, maybe even a little bit sick - and with some of them, more than a little bit.
What sort of person kills animals for sport? For fun? You see this picture of Sarah Palin kneeling in the snow over this moose she's just shot, and the moose is lying there bleeding from the mouth - and everybody's supposed to applaud. This is women's equality - women can kill moose, too.
By the way, this is not just a Republican thing; Hillary Clinton told the story over and over about how she learned to hunt from her father. In 2004, John Kerry made sure everyone knew he may be a Democrat with a Boston accent, but he was a hunter, damnit.
Obviously, they were going after the redneck vote, showing they weren't prissy urban liberals, they were real, red-blooded Americans. That's what you have to do to get elected president ever since 1980, when Reagan took over, and country became cool.
AND I have to laugh at these Jewish Republicans who are kvelling over Palin and what a regular, down-to-earth gal she is. I'd like to see some of these verbose Jewish neocons tromping around Alaska with a hunting rifle going after caribou, whatever the hell that is.
Why don't they admit that they're put off by Palin's exploits in the snow, and by hunting in principle, just like those Florida condo people are. This is not a Jewish thing, and, as a Jew, I'm happy to say it's not. I know there are a few Jewish hunters out there, and I want to say I feel sorry for you, you and all your gentile friends, that this is how you find joy in life - by killing deer, and moose, and rabbits, and ducks, and birds and whatever other animals you enjoy shooting.
By the way, I don't mean to tar all gentiles as barbarians - I know that millions and millions of gentiles are also sickened by hunting, maybe most of them are. But let's face it, even if most gentiles aren't hunters, virtually all hunters are gentiles.
After all, how many Jews are members of the National Rifle Association? (No, you cannot count Charlton Heston, z"l.)
And I'm not one of those people who want to outlaw hunting. I don't think it's "murder," I don't think animals have the same rights as people. Actually, I'm no great animal lover at all. Actually, if you want to know the truth, I identify with the humorist Fran Lebowitz, who, when asked to name her favorite animal, replied: "Steak."
And I don't hate guns, either; I got a big kick out of target practice in the army. I'm also not a stickler for gun control; I understand that in some places and some situations, a gun is a good thing to have, and I'm not convinced that rounding up guns in America would bring the crime rate down to European levels.
It's just that I don't like the idea of killing animals for pleasure, and I don't think being a hunter is anything to be proud of. I wouldn't do it, and frankly, I don't think I could be friends with somebody who did it, or at least somebody who did it passionately, and it seems to me that all hunters are passionate about hunting. It doesn't strike me as a hobby you can pursue half-heartedly.
The South Florida condo people have a term for it: goyishe naches. Gentiles' idea of happiness. Not all gentiles, of course, but too many of them, including Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and, of course, Dick Cheney. (Just think - if the yidden in Florida had known all along that Cheney was such a remarkably eager hunter, Al Gore probably would have won in 2000.)
So let's all of us Jews, or virtually all of us, along with the vast, civilized majority of gentiles, stand up and say: Feh on hunting! You think that makes you a man, or a strong woman? It makes you a nut! You should be ashamed of yourselves! Unless you're starving, leave the poor animals alone!
And now that we've told the rednecks and the politicians who pander to them what we think of that great American pastime, shall we talk about stock car racing?
Personally I eat the critters, and I'm sorry Larry got sick somewhere along the line, but he should consider trying meat again.
What a h-mo!
(Brooklyn/Yiddish accent): "Whaaatt??? They don't eat meat or something?"
Everyone I know that kills a deer eats it. Deer meat is good. It freezes well. If one is a good hunter, one can save money on meat. Venison is also a lean meat which is good for you.
More stupid people. There is not photo of Sarah standing over a moose for one thing. There is one of her with a cow caribou. I think there are more hunters than jews in America so they should shut the hell up.
Earth to Derfner. Come in Derfner.
Talk about misplaced priorities. Vote for a candidate who finds infantcide okay rather than an animal hunter.
I don't speak Yiddish but I do know what "putz" means.
Apparently he doesn’t realize his food in the grocery store comes from (omg) killing animals.
Wonder if this putz ever considered it was those dumb cruel hunting rednecks that stopped Hitler. Oh well... to each their own. (I didn’t realize that if the moyle slipped it would result in a lobotomy as in this poor gents case.)
She’s Armed and President NRA's new Jewish leader shoots holes in stereotypes.
That's her, behind the wildebeast, Larry.
Hmmm maybe Islam is a step above.....
Okay, just for the freaking record, and for the dozenth time, the bleeding critter was a caribou. Okay?
Second, no hunter I know (talking Montana here) kills for fun. You idiots.
They kill for food.
They kill for an exotic gourmet meal that cannot be bought in a restaurant (farm-raised elk are not the same as wild, just as with salmon).
Some kill for trophies and hides.
Some have found hunter roots. Man was a hunter for a gazillion years before he was a community organizer.
If you’ve never had the experience, you simply do not know what you’re talking about.
Those who kill reputations are far, far more disreputable than those who kill wild game.
And, at bottom, hunters do more, spend more, care more for preservation of game and other species than nonhunters. They pay for the survival of those species. Boneheads who condemn hunting spend nothing but cheap talk. But even if you dismiss all the other points . . .
It’s not a cock-a-doody moose, you morons.
‘Feh’ on controlling the deer population. They’re so cute, they should overpopulate and starve to death rather than be sport for some mean hunter.
Larry Derfner
I declare this man a pussy.
What a completely distorted and foolish view of the world. His first misconception is that the moose was killed for “sport”. Moose a are a major food source in Alaska, and I’m quite sure the Palin’s ate their prey.
Unless this person is a vegetarian non-animal product user, he has not a shred of moral ground to stand on. Commercially raised meat animals live in fairly horrid conditions with no degrees of freedom. They’re fed whatever slop is available, and when slaughtered it’s often neither pretty nor particularly humane.
On the other hand, wild animals live freely, in nature. That does pose some challenges, but I think most folk would agree that overall conditions are much better for a wild animal. It’s only at the last instant of the animal’s life that hunting impacts it, and the entire ethic of hunting is directed at a humane end. As with most worthwhile pursuits, there is skill involved in becoming a proficient hunter. Another benefit of hunting is that largely the meat is free of hormones, antibiotics and other ‘benefits’ of civilization.
In short, I believe that for non-vegetarians (the vast majority of the population), hunting should be regarded as a more ethical and intelligent choice than buying farmed meat at the local supermarket. If you look around for good deals, or hunt public land, hunting can save some dollars as well!
It should also be remembered that hunters are the primary source of animal conservation dollars - completely refuting any argument of negative impact.
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