If it walks like a Marxist

WND.com ^ | September 25, 2008 | Erik Rush

[kindred]

Typically, there have been two effective manners in which societies may implement the abatement of Marxists: 1. Outspend them. 2. Kill them. Now, if one is dealing with small numbers of these pesky vermin, obviously No. 2 is the least expensive, speedy end to this objective. In the case of the Soviet Union, No. 1 proved (at least unaware of the malignant nature of this sociopolitical philosophy, or holds that it has as much of a place in America as, say, libertarianism. We are now faced with what would seem to be a contradiction of canon: dedicated Marxists with all of the capital resources in our prosperous nation available to them; with this they more and more effectively ply their putrefactive trade. A study of the rationale behind those who find it necessary to saw through the base of the limb upon which we all sit perched could fill a book. (Column continues below) Some argue that the people to whom this columnist and others refer to as "Marxists" aren't that at all, given that by declaration their political leanings lie elsewhere. To this I would remind the reader that I might assert that I am a virgin Eskimo princess, but that doesn't make it true. If a politician, activist or plain old Joe advocates social doctrines practiced in Marxist regimes or proscribed in Marxist teachings, then that person is a Marxist, whether they call themselves a liberal, progressive or a virgin Eskimo princess. An example, apparently innocuous and uncomplicated on its face, but germane to the discussion of Marxist encroachment involved a friend of mine: This person owns a three-story, hundred-year-old brownstone in the Bronx. A schoolteacher, this individual is most definitely not wealthy. They had occasion to get into a rent dispute

[kindred]

This is a time that I thought I would never see, our great nation being destroyed from within by the marxist left and all their corrupt politicians.

[Tarpon]

You should have read about Alynski ... During the Clinton years it all started ... Hillary's hidden thesis was all about how to do it.

It's fitting that this whole financial mess started under Clinton.

I notice most of these Marxists don't even mention freedom liberty or personal responsibility. Without responsibilities, you have no rights.

I guess the notion that there was no need to pay attention to such things is now proved false.

[wintertime]

This is a time that I thought I would never see, our great nation being destroyed from within by the marxist left and all their corrupt politicians.
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Marxism is by far our nation's most serious threat. It is not islamofascism. Schools (government K-12 and universities) are their most important weapon.

Our schools from K-12 through graduate school have been thoroughly infiltrated by Marxists. If they succeed in indoctrinating the next generation of voters we will lose our freedom in the voting booth.

I am pleased to see the word Marxist used more often. It is time we call the enemy who he is. He is **not** progressive, liberal, leftist, or, as the author wryly states, an Eskimo virgin princess.

One thing that irritates me no end is Rush Limbaugh. He rarely uses the word communist or Marxist, and persists in using the word leftist. What a big fat idiot!

[ETL]

You should have read about Alynski ... During the Clinton years it all started ... Hillary's hidden thesis was all about how to do it.

From the Boston Globe, August 31, 2008:

[Saul Alinsky's] Son sees father's handiwork in [2008 democrat] convention

ALL THE elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situations and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd's chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people.

The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style. Barack Obama's training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness.

It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.

I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.

L. DAVID ALINSKY
Medfield

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/

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From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."[2]

[2] Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm

[ETL]

I am pleased to see the word Marxist used more often. It is time we call the enemy who he is. ... One thing that irritates me no end is Rush Limbaugh. He rarely uses the word communist or Marxist, and persists in using the word leftist.

Bill Ayers' Weather Underground and Wright's Black Liberation Movement were linked in communist revolution...

"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

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Much more on the ObamaRat-commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page. Everything there is linked directly to its source. I've now added within-page links and a 'clickable' table of contents which makes it easy to hop around to the various sections:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl

[wgflyer]

“One thing that irritates me no end is Rush Limbaugh. He rarely uses the word communist or Marxist, and persists in using the word leftist. What a big fat idiot!”

Just an observation....If Rush began using the terms you suggest when discussing all liberals it is likely that the Marxists you so fear would have a weapon with which to dispatch him as a threat. After McCarthy was deposed the Left successfully turned such accusations into a negative thing for the accuser. In an era where ignorance of history is so pervasive (directly thanks to our Marxists), such accusations can be turned on the accuser in a heartbeat. Perhaps Rush is more clever than you think.

Another observation...you just maligned the one guy who is on your side more than just about anyone. Isn’t that a wonder?

[ETL]

Just an observation....If Rush began using the terms you suggest when discussing all liberals it is likely that the Marxists you so fear would have a weapon with which to dispatch him as a threat. After McCarthy was deposed the Left successfully turned such accusations into a negative thing for the accuser. In an era where ignorance of history is so pervasive (directly thanks to our Marxists), such accusations can be turned on the accuser in a heartbeat. Perhaps Rush is more clever than you think.

True, about the dumbing down of the American people by the Marxists in our schools, music and film industries, mainstream media news, magazines, popular television programs, left-slanted film documentaries, etc, etc, except that now, unlike in McCarthy's time, we have the ability, through the internet and various other means, to provide large numbers of people the straight-from-the-horse's-mouth PROOF as to who and what these SOBs really are.

Rush, Hannity, and most of the other conservative commentators ARE very much idiots for not getting more of these facts out to the American people. They're not being 'clever'. They simply don't know squat about the subject. That fact is made obvious every time they touch on the subject. Laura Ingram knows next to nothing about the communist left. Levin seems to know a bit more than the rest and is increasingly getting into it more. We are on the verge of losing the battle to the commie left precisely BECAUSE these dopes aren't fully getting the word out about who and what they are. They were and are STILL revolutionary communists. They admit it themselves (Ayers, Dohrn and 'Reverend' Wright).

Hannity and Limbaugh rake in MILLIONS of dollars for doing what they do, I don't make a single frigging penny, yet know a thousand times more than they do. Despite the mountain of resources available to Sean Hannity, he has yet to refer to Bill Ayers or the Weather Underground as communist, instead describing them only as 'domestic terrorists'. Same goes for Reverend Wright and 'Black Liberation Theology'. Except for one special Friday night edition of Hannity's America, where he had on several experts who blew the lid of off the 'Black Liberation' movement, he hasn't uttered a peep about the true agenda of Wright's movement. He seems to have completely forgotten what he learned on that episode. Yet, as mentioned in my earlier post on this thread, Bill Ayers' Weather Underground and the Black Liberation movements were linked in communist revolution. They worked together arm and arm carrying out various acts of terror, including many bombings and quite a few murders.

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[Obama] is named Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge founded by Bill Ayers
(article typo has Ayers instead of Obama)

In late 1993, Bill Ayers, now an associate professor of education at the University of Illinois Chicago Circle Campus, organized a team to put together a grant proposal to secure nearly $50 million from the Annenberg Challenge. The money was to be used by Ayers and co. to bolster the radical Local School Councils reform project that Ayers and Obama had championed back in 1988 through the ABCs.

The grant application was successful and in early 1995 Barack Obama was named chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Ayers was named co-chair of the Challenge’s operative and strategic body, the Chicago School Reform Collaborative. Ayers and Obama work together for the next five years on raising an additional $60 million in matching money from local foundations and corporations and using the money to intervene in the governance of the Chicago public schools.

The Challenge through a multi-million dollar Leadership Development Initiative intervened in the School Council elections in the middle of what was known as the Chicago School Wars. At the same time Chicago Mayor Richard Daley was pushing, successfully, to gut the power of the Councils.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/12/the-obama-ayers-top-ten-highlights-of-the-20-year-obama-ayers-connection/

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"The Small Schools Workshop was founded in 1991 at the University of Illinois at Chicago to provide support for teachers who were trying to create new smaller learning environments. Its director is Michael Klonsky, a former professor of education at UIC."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Schools_Workshop

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Some background on Bill Ayers' SDS comrade, Michael Klonsky
(Chicago Annenberg Challenge-related)

"One of Bill Ayers’ and Bernardine Dohrn’s comrades in the late 60s Students for a Democratic Society was Mike Klonsky. When Dohrn and Ayers moved in one direction toward the violent tactics of the Weather Underground, Klonsky, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia, dropped the pro-Russian communist politics of his parents and became a committed Maoist. As leader of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) in 1977 [not to be confused with Communist Party USA. CPML no longer exists, CPUSA formed decades earlier and is still around-ETL], he travelled to Beijing and was toasted by the senior Beijing leadership.

When the crazy left of the 70s died in the 80s, Klonsky went to graduate school in education in Florida and then moved to Chicago.

While driving a cab there he [Michael Klonsky] was recruited by his old friend Bill Ayers to head up a new project called the Small Schools Workshop in 1991. It’s offices were in the Department of Education building at the University of Illinois Chicago Circle Campus where Ayers taught.

In 1995 the newly formed Chicago Annenberg Challenge headed by Ayers and Obama gave the Workshop a grant of $175,000.

The Annenberg Challenge also had its office space in the same building as Ayers Department and the Workshop, rent free courtesy of the University.

In 2008 Klonsky ran a blog on the official Obama campaign website on education policy and “social justice” teaching. When discussion of the Klonsky blog emerged in the blogosphere, it was promptly shut down by the campaign and all of the posts made by Klonsky were removed from the site."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/12/the-obama-ayers-top-ten-highlights-of-the-20-year-obama-ayers-connection/

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In 1977, the October League was reorganized as the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) [again, not Communist Party USA (CPUSA) -ETL] and former SDS activist Michael Klonsky became party chairman. Also in 1977, Klonsky traveled to China and the CPML was recognized by the Chinese Communist Party as its official sister party in America.

(snip)

In January 1981, Michael Klonsky resigned as party chairman, and the CPML disbanded that same year.

The previous Red Encyclopedia description of the CPML was incorrectly combined with that of the Communist Party USA (Marxist-Leninist).

http://reds.linefeed.org/past.html

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From Sept 11, 2001, New York Times article/interview with Obama associate and friend, William/Bill Ayers.
Article title: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"

"Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as:

'Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

New York Times, September 11, 2001:
"No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

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Bill Ayers TODAY (April 6, 2008), from his own red communist star-headed website, begging to debate communism vs capitalism with Sean Hannity and STILL calling for revolution!

"Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.

Source: Bill Ayers' own website:
http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/page/2/

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From Investor's Business Daily (IBD), August 27, 2008:

"Ayers, now a tenured distinguished professor of education at UIC, works to educate teachers in socialist revolutionary ideology, urging that it be passed on to impressionable students.

One of Ayer's descriptions for a course called 'Improving Learning Environments' says prospective K-12 teachers need to 'be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and ... be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, teaching for social justice and liberation.

The Annenberg papers are quite extensive — 132 boxes containing 947 file folders with 70 linear feet of material. They undoubtedly contain more surprises regarding Obama's relationship with Ayers, one of many relationships Obama has sought to hide.'..."

Article: Annenberg Papers: Putting On Ayers?
http://www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=304729375940845

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Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]
Revolution #63, October 1, 2006

Interview with Bill Ayers:
"On Progressive Education, Critical Thinking and the Cowardice of Some in Dangerous Times"
http://rwor.org/a/063/ayers-en.html

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The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

From the Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam website, FinalCall.com...
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We are happy today to be standing side by side with the Nation of Islam. We believe, like the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad believe, in a nation of our own. We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology. We don’t worry about the criticism. We love all of those who labored in the Panther Party from the ’60s. Many are with us today."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml

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From Marxists.org, the Black Panther Party "Ten-Point Program"
http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/1966/10/15.htm

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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

excerpt...

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."... "Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/

[that's Michelle Obama with Mrs. Farrakhan. Mrs. Farrakhan is at center bottom wearing white]
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/03/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhans-wife-together-in-photo/

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's pastor and spirtual advisor "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

From the New York Times, April 28, 2008
Reverend Wright at the National Press Club
"In the late 1960s, when Dr. James Cone's powerful books burst onto the scene, the term 'black liberation theology' began to be used. I do not in any way disagree with Dr. Cone, nor do I in any way diminish the inimitable and incomparable contributions that he has made and that he continues to make to the field of theology. Jim, incidentally, is a personal friend of mine."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/us/politics/28text-wright.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=sloginL

From Jeff Head's website...
One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." - "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).
http://www.jeffhead.com/blacklibtheology.htm

African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Religious-Thought-Anthology/dp/0664224598

HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

YouTube: Glenn Beck on Obama and Black Liberation Theology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cA0GEV1ibY&eurl=http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/04/im-speechless.html

"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

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From American Thinker, September 16, 2008
Article: Obama's Foul Weather Friends
By Scott Swett and Roger Canfield

"As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he 'left the room to cry.' He said, 'I realized...America was an evil... and that I was... living inside the belly of the beast...' "

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html

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Much more on the ObamaRat-commie connections at my FR Profile/Home page. Everything there is linked directly to its source. I've now added within-page links and a 'clickable' table of contents which makes it easy to hop around to the various sections:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl

[wgflyer]

Thanks for the comprehensive reply. Let me first inform you that you are preaching to the choir. There are lots of ways to attack this problem, yours is very high on my list, as well. I personally often refer to just about every liberal movement or leader as communists, and have done for years. However, you must recognize different people respond differently to various arguments.

As you say, unlike in McCarthy's time, we have the internet, which is a blessing to those of us who wish to be informed. It is a blessing also to those who wish to disinform. And don't forget that, also unlike McCarthy's time, we have a massively dumbed down population, many who come from third world nations who came to plunder, not to become Americans, at least, not in spirit. These people actually want big government because it eases plundering enterprise.

Many people, not fully informed, respond very negatively to the kind of aggressive argument you choose. You work on it from your perspective, Rush et al will work on it from theirs. But to attack those who are on your side is counterproductive.

And as a caveat, I feel that a number of right wing pundits out there are more in Bush's camp than the peoples’. This is disturbing. But Rush gets it. Believe me, he's not the problem. He is, however, a big part of the solution.

[TexasRepublic]

Now, if one is dealing with small numbers of these pesky vermin, obviously No. 2 is the least expensive, speedy end to this objective.

Marxists are more than merely pesky -- they are dangerous as rattlesnakes. There is only one effective prescription for rattlesnakes. We did it in Korea, we did it in Vietnam, and it looks like we'll be forced to do it at home.

[DonnerT]

Mark BTTT.

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But Rush gets it. Believe me, he’s not the problem. He is, however, a big part of the solution.
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He is without a doubt a great educator.

BUT.....He consistently fails to educate his listeners about what communism is, how is it found in our culture, and why it is our nation’s ***most*** serious threat.

I can barely stand to listen to him. I usually find myself yelling at the radio/computer.

What really ticks me off, is that I know that Rush knows the seriousness of the threat of Marxism and does almost never mentions it on his program. He must think his listeners are idiots, and that makes him an idiot.

[wgflyer]

“What really ticks me off, is that I know that Rush knows the seriousness of the threat of Marxism and does almost never mentions it on his program. He must think his listeners are idiots, and that makes him an idiot.”

If you step back and look at things, the difference between liberalism, progressivism, socialism, Marxism, fascism and “big” government is basically just degrees of oppression, and a few smaller details in method. They all strive to accomplish the same thing. The lightest socialism trends always towards the more severe, never less so.

The opposite of this is smaller government and less potent government, meaning less ability to interfere with or micromanage your life. Rush's consistent message is to weaken government, in that respect, which is also your message. Rush continually points out the failings of government and the successes of individual spirit and innovation, but it is true that he does not focus on Marxism. In honesty, Marxism is just a name for a demon that takes many forms, many names, and does great harm.

Rush is not so much an educator on Marxism, or liberalism, or fascism. Rather, his specialty as an educator is American entreprenaurialism and American exceptionalism and the American “can do” spirit born out of that wonderful constitution we were blessed with. I would postulate that it is a good idea to allow Rush the leeway to continue with this message, for he does a heck of a lot of good with it, rather than focusing on the demon itself. To the extent that one accepts Rush's message, Marxism becomes untenable and Marxists fail to take hold. Isn't that the idea?

Rush definitely doesn't think we're idiots. Obama, McCain, Bush, and 99 percent of congress do, though. I feel that Rush deserves our respect. If you differ, that's your prerogative, but I think you're attacking the wrong guy.

Having said that, you are doing well to rail against Marxism. Keep fighting the good fight and know you have many, many allies.

[ebiskit]

Research this subject and it will curl your straight hair.

From Boortz.com:

“COULD I BE WRONG ABOUT GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS?

I’ve often said that our government schools are just miserable failures. For some time now I’ve been wondering if I’m not dead wrong about this. Over the last year or so I’ve been reading a book by John Taylor Gatto called “The Underground History of American Education.” The book isn’t cheap. Almost fifty bucks in paperback .. but the information is priceless. One Amazon.com reviewer of this book wrote:

“The major premise here is that American schooling has been dumbed down to provide mindless, loyal workers who cannot think for themselves. At least this is the schooling provided to the masses. This was a deliberate act with roots in 19th century industrialism. He shows how the Civil War demonstrated to industrialists and financiers how a standardized population trained to follow orders without significant thought could be made to function as a money tree. Moreover, the proper schooling could be used to strip the common population of its power to cause trouble. You see, our global power and corporate wealth is based on a third-rate educational system that actually works against developing men and women of true character and intellect. The mindless bureaucrat and worker who follows a system without thought or question is the pattern that our “efficient” system depends on. That is what schooling produces. One should never confuse schooling with true education- and definitely not with intelligence.”

Now we’re in an election cycle, and that line about “ .. follow(ing) orders without significant thought ...” really rings true, especially when you consider the people out there fawning over The Messiah. Think about it: What has been Obama’s campaign slogan since pretty much day one. You know ... “Change we can believe in.” Now the truly educated person might say “Change? From what to what?” But we’re talking about truly educated, discerning people here. For the rest ... for the government educated masses who “follow orders without significant thought”, the picture isn’t as pretty. Pollsters recently asked people for one-word descriptions of Obama. The word most chosen? Why, it was “change,” of course. These people couldn’t do anything better than to regurgitate the very word that had been force-fed them by Obamaologists .. the “C’ word. Some real independent thinkers we have there.

An inordinate amount of time is spent on my show trying to explain some basic economic principles to listeners. It is shocking how many people don’t understand the difference between a profit and a profit margin. Also, people just can’t grasp the fact that historically tax cuts lead to increases in revenues to government. The idea that people will engage more strongly in economic behavior that is rewarded should be easy to understand. It isn’t. Too many Americans react with disbelief when you tell them that the very same evil rich people so often denigrated by Democrats are the people who write their pay checks every month. Barack Obama can talk about raising taxes on rich people who earn over $250,000 a year, and most people don’t understand that these are the small businessmen and women who account for 70% of all existing jobs and 80% of all new jobs in our economy. Then when you tell people that these small businessmen are going to cut back on business expenses if their taxes go up – and that the people they employ are business expenses – you just get glassy stares. Hey, they’re rich. They should pay their fair share.

Tell me, can you see why a service station operator has to raise the price of every gallon of gasoline he has in the ground when he is notified that when the tanker shows up with another load the prices are going to go up? If you can’t, perhaps you’re part of the problem.

This problem (the dumb masses voting) isn’t new. Thirty years ago I was conducting polls on my radio show ... who are you going to vote for and why? The most common answer to the “why” question? “Because he’s the best man for the job.” That’s the best they could come up with ... just some bromide about so-and-so being the best man for the job. It sort of reminds you of the “change” word voters spew forth when asked about their vote for Obama. We, my friends, are in deep brown stuff.

Don’t read that Gatto book. It will scare the hell out of you.”

[ebiskit]

Alinsky dedicates the book to none other than Lucifer himself.

[ETL]

Alinsky dedicates the book to none other than Lucifer himself.

Yes, I usually include the dedication in my Alinsky posts. I left it out this time because I didn't want to distract from his message on "change" and "revolution".

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."[2]

[2] Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm

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I would postulate that it is a good idea to allow Rush the leeway to continue with this message, for he does a heck of a lot of good with it, rather than focusing on the demon itself.
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When Rush flat out uses the word “leftist” when referring to a full blown communist, then Rush is deliberately lying.

And...There has been plenty of opportunity in this particular election cycle to call Marxism and Marxists. Communism and Communist by their **honest** names.

Rush is more than a big fat idiot. He is a deliberate liar.

But....I still love listening to Rush ( even though I sometimes feel like kicking the computer) because he is soooo funny, soooo smart, and so often right.

Surely a man this smart and funny could find a way to call communists and Marxists what they are and make them look ridiculous.

[MrB]

Hey wt, I know we’d like to call our opponents what they truly are, but if we do/did, we’d be dismissed as reactionary whackos.

I think it’s great that Rush has stopped using the left’s preferred monickers of “progressive” and “liberal” and has consistently started using “leftist”.

Now, we have to change the language from using the word “liberalism” and start using “collectivism”.

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The masses are so mind numbed that they simply can not imagine any other way than to incarcerate their children in government schools.

But...I have never been so hopeful. Freedom is a good idea. ( See my tag line.) Once there is even the tiniest little bit of educational freedom parents flock to it. The waiting lists for charters and vouchers schools are very long. Homeschooling continues its annual 7 to 15% growth. Taxpayers are groaning under their property taxes, and property taxes on businesses are driving our nation's jobs off shore.

Legislators are not and will not be deaf to these cries. When my kids were little I had to define the words “homeschooling” and “vouchers” when having conversations with people. Today homeschoolers are everywhere, and there are voucher and tax credit bills working their way through legislatures across the nation.

[MrB]

I’ve found a “neutral” word that is accusatory at the same time - it’s not as loaded as “Marxist”, “communist”, or “fascist” -

it’s “collectivist” or “collectivism”. It means the same thing, those who ascribe to it know what the implications are, but they don’t have the “reactionary” bludgeon to wield back at you.

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Now, we have to change the language from using the word “liberalism” and start using “collectivism”.
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That would certainly be an improvement.